TacticalFox88
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Holy shit. hahahahaha, If that's true, then Obama's balls have been retrofitted with titanium.
Goddamn.
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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Holy shit. hahahahaha, If that's true, then Obama's balls have been retrofitted with titanium.
Goddamn.
mckmas8808
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He should get that "for free" in the same way that the GOP should get at least the same amount of spending cuts "for free".
Another side effect of Republicans shenanigans: they have yet to renew a change to a 1947 dairy law, which would double the price of milk to 7$ a gallon
mckmas8808
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Yeah that's right. And that was without any tax increases, so I take back my last statement.
PhoenixDark
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I'm thinking Obama meant he'll get more of his revenue due to the tax cuts expiring, so Boehner giving him a similar amount is moot
Fenderputty
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Because the republicans have so much leverage right now?
TacticalFox88
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Personally, I think this is more badass than "Please proceed, Governor."
Obama has more awesome quotes than an 80s action movie.
The Technomancer
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Oh please oh please let this be true
"Please proceed, Governor" wasn't the least bit badass, it was only amazing because Romney committed a completely unforced error in his very next sentence that torpedoed the one topic he had a prayer of hitting the president with in that debate.
Black Republican
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dat dick swingin'
TacticalFox88
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Kind of the point? Context always makes these quotes, I don't see how the way it was set up takes away from the sheer awesomness of it.
I'm pretty sure that is what he meant, and you can see that in Obama's offers. All he's willing to trade for taxes is undefined spending cuts to be determined by Congress, I.e., nothing.
PantherLotus
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You say that as if Obama didn't know exactly what Romney was about to do. That quote will live in infamy as one of the most _________adjectives_______ political moments ever.
It was an amazing moment, but it would have been such pretty much no matter what Obama said. It was amazing because Romney fucked up spectacularly, not because "please proceed" was particularly amazing wordsmithing. He could have said anything and the result would be the same.
I guess I'm just nitpicking the difference between badass lines and the act of being a badass.
ClovingWestbrook
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Obama is about to sign the NDAA that includes a more generalized version of Todd Akins anti gay bulling amendment.
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/defense-bill-todd-akin-anti-gay-provision
http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/defense-bill-todd-akin-anti-gay-provision
Damn man, now this is what I want to hear!
PhoenixDark
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Don't see it changing anything. It says they can't use beliefs, if those translate to actions I'd imagine they can discipline
They can't punish someone because they are a homophobic asshole (they think all gay people are evil) but they start translating that to actions you can.
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Aaron Strife
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Meanwhile, Obama's approval in Gallup today is a record high for the past 3 years or so - 58%.
Yep. Don't see many liberals questioning Gallup's methodologies right now....
We don't question what we ignore. They suck and will never again be trusted. Nice try at making false statements. Gotta make a quota for your tag.
Aaron Strife
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If they had stuck with their RV model, no one would be questioning them.Yep. Don't see many liberals questioning Gallup's methodologies right now....
Instead they decided to double down on their stupidity and assume the electorate was only old white people.
RV polls are always more accurate than LV in presidential elections.
airmangataosenai
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Whats funny about this is that the most dangerous thing to our country right now is the fiscal cliff which is debt reduction.
MonkeyKing
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I bet that's really funny in their own little world.....
DragonSworne
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Black Mamba
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Boehner only Congressman people have heard of outside their district*
Is what you mean
I know, the entire thing is just so fucking stupid. Just try and point this out to someone, either they'll ignore you or their head will explode.
DragonSworne
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What's the point of lowering debt?
So we can borrow more later?
Makes no sense
So we can borrow more later?
Makes no sense
Black Mamba
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The idea is that our debt will become so bad that no one will want to borrow believing we can't either pay it off or it will lead to hyperinflation.
But even if this were the case, it's long term debt. Once the economy recovers, the debt load will drop. Which is why you spend now to increase short term deficit to bring in more revenues later...
PhoenixDark
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Yep. Don't see many liberals questioning Gallup's methodologies right now....
did they change the methodology after the election? kind of puzzling that it's so high now, although I guess people do like winners
It's too complicated for the average person, there is nothing they can relate it too. This is pretty sad, basic economics like this should be a highschool thing.
There's always a post-election bump for the winner, plus the rally around the flag effect after Sandy Hook.
their head to head matchup used their likely voter model. they don't use a likely voter model for approval ratings.
ClovingWestbrook
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Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.
And I don't mean it in a holier than thou kind of way; it's a very human tendency and pretty much everyone is guilty of that from time to time.
If anything the fact that Gallup has a history of being skewed against Obama would indicate that his approvals are higher than they're showing.
Except that that number is exactly in line with other pollsters.
It's insane that it isn't. It's almost like it's deliberate...
Isn't the consensus that Gallup numbers were skewed because of their likely voters models?
This is an opinion poll of all Americans, so even if they retained that bias (and I'm sure they're at the very least hard at work adjusting their models) it should not come into play here.
RustyNails
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It perfectly encapsulates the entire 2012 presidential election. Obama calm, in control, always had the upper hand. Romney swinging left and right and throwing shit lies at the wall and seeing what sticks, and never quite overcoming Obama.
I'm sure it will be replayed for years to come when they show "moments" from past presidential elections.
Yup. Their LV model was the main problem.
CBS Poll: 57% Approval
AP Poll: 57% Approval
And now we have Gallup at 58%. You don't see a pattern here?
Keep calling it confirmation bias though. SMH.
Please say this is true. Boss.
I think you misunderstood me.
I was talking about the confirmation bias some liberals has when it comes to Gallup's methodology, though in this particular case, the confirmation bias might actually yield a good decision, because we have no reason to believe that Gallup's LV bias translates into such poll (and the numbers you posted support this theory).
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