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Zen

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The gaming forum is like an alternate universe where Romney won.

Wii U is getting massacred out there.

Well in japan it's currently below the Vitas performance trajectory, and there's like almost nothing on it for the hardcore, not too mention the complete implosion of all third party software and the middling hardware sales with Nintendo saying they have no plans to cut the price. Not sure how that makes the gaming forum into Romney-land though.
 
Well in japan it's currently below the Vitas performance trajectory, and there's like almost nothing on it for the hardcore, not too mention the complete implosion of all third party software and the middling hardware sales with Nintendo saying they have no plans to cut the price. Not sure how that makes the gaming forum into Romney-land though.

Imagine how depressing America would be if romney won.

War with Iran.
15% unemployment.
Sodomy declared a felony.

Feels bad man.
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
Well in japan it's currently below the Vitas performance trajectory, and there's like almost nothing on it for the hardcore, not too mention the complete implosion of all third party software and the middling hardware sales with Nintendo saying they have no plans to cut the price. Not sure how that makes the gaming forum into Romney-land though.
You just described every Nintendo console since the N64.
 
You just described every Nintendo console since the N64.

Except the "surprise announcement, stay tuned for big news!!!!"

....was that an exclusive game due next week was delayed for 6 months to be made multiplatform.

Not even Obama could pull a bait and switch like that....

...and he's the dude who promised to close Guantanamo!
 

Touchdown

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There’s been a good deal of chatter to the effect that Republicans still retain leverage in the sequester fight, because some of them are willing to let the sequester happen. But Politico reports that GOP resolve is cracking, with GOPers privately conceding that they’d prefer to reach a deal, because the politics of allowing deep spending cuts, a gutting of defense, and a major hit to the economy are too dangerous.

Of course, GOP aides continue to say they want a deal, but only on their terms — which is to say, they’ll only accept a deal that averts the sequester through spending cuts alone, with no new revenues.

Herein lies the fundamental weakness of the GOP position. The problem is that Republicans who care about defense are now on record claiming the sequester will threaten our national security. As Lindsey Graham put it yesterday: “I’m sure Iran is very supportive of sequestration.”

Which raises a question: If the sequester will help our enemies, and put the country at risk, shouldn’t Republicans be willing to discuss closing tax loopholes that benefit the rich and corporations — the same loopholes they were previously willing to entertain closing — to avoid it?

Senate Democrats are drawing up a plan to avert the sequester by limiting tax breaks for oil and gas exploration, nixing tax breaks for private equity employees who pay a lower capital gains tax, and other measures. The idea is to put pressure on Republicans to choose between protecting tax breaks for special interests on one side, and gutting defense and tanking the economy on the other.

This is a tough position to be in, as Politico reports, but it’s made worse by an inconvenient fact: If Republicans were to agree to closing loopholes, they would also get some of the spending cuts they want. In other words, the choice isn’t: Either give Dems what they want while getting nothing in return or let the sequester destroy the economy. Rather, the choice is: Reach a compromise that gives both sides some of what they want or let the sequester destroy the economy.

Republicans have dealt with this problem by pretending that Dems aren’t actually willing to cut spending. As John Boehner put it yesterday: “At some point, Washington has to deal with its spending problem.” But of course, Dems have not only agreed to cut spending; they have already accepted a good deal more in spending cuts than Republicans have agreed to in new revenues. And the plain fact is that Obama has reiterated that the same spending and entitlement cuts he offered in 2011 are still on the table, even irking his own base in the process.

Ultimately, what this comes down to is that the public is less likely to see Republicans as the party that’s acting in good faith here. Since Republicans are on record claiming the sequester will help the enemy and even admitting it will tank the recovery, are they really going to protect loopholes and deductions enjoyed by the rich and corporations — again, as part of a compromise that gives them some of what they want, too — rather than avoid such an outcome?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...lum-gop-resolve-on-sequester-begins-to-crack/

But PD said the GOP has all the leverage!


I wish they'd just kick the entire can down the road, of course.
 
Sorry for double post but this is unrelated to above.

As Republican leaders insist that the debate over gun violence in America should also address the role of violent entertainment, the latest findings from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling released Thursday showed that the vast majority of GOP voters nationwide believe video games are a bigger threat than guns.

Given the choice between the two, 67 percent of Republican voters said violent video games represent a bigger threat to safety than guns. Fourteen percent said guns are the bigger safety threat.

While most Democrats in Washington continue to push for new laws governing the sale of firearms, Republicans have sought to shift the debate away from gun control by drawing attention to violent video games and mental health problems — as Thursday's poll results appear to reflect.

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Al-ibn Kermit

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Cain was never a serious candidate, nor is he a smart person in general. I think Rubio deserves some credit and respect to a degree. He may be Cuban but I see no reason to believe he'll bomb with Hispanics nationally because of this; besides he only needs 35-40% of the Hispanic vote. I'm guessing he'll be courting Hispanic groups, media, and leaders nonstop for the next two years and it will work in his benefit.

He may be marketed as a Hispanic magnet but that doesn't make him a nonstarter with white people. Time will tell where the country will be ideologically in a couple years, and whether his conservative ideals will be popular. Gore and democrats thought thy were pretty invincible in 1997 yet republicans won the WH in the next election; Obama is no Clinton, and the economy remains weak. We don't know where the country will be in 2015/2016, or whether Obama will be a popular president or seen as a failure. Not do we know if Hillary will run or whether she's even healthy enough to run.

Obama barnstormed the country for democrats in 2006. Obviously democrats were going to have a big year regardless but he was credited with helping a lot of people win, and he banked a lot of support; straight out of Nixon's playbook. Rubio is perhaps the only energetic republican out there, outside of Chrisie; he will be barn storming in 2014 too, and if history repeats then republicans will have a good election, which he will receive credit for. In short, the chips are already in his favor.

He'll run as a Hispanic when a Romney runs as a Christian. The specifics of his background will be common knowledge and the fact that his immigration plan is going to be less attractive to Hispanics than whatever democratic candidate is running against him will make Hispanics generally embarrassed of him.

How do you sell him to Latinos without making him look like a token?
 

kehs

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Sequester ain't happening, especially after Penetta telling them to grow up after they asked how they can get around gutting defense without too much damage or what kind of language the DOD would like to see in a "deal".
 

gcubed

Member
Idaho Senator be trolling?

Sen. Goedde caused a minor media storm this week when the Spokesman-Review reported on a bill he sponsored requiring Idaho high school students to read the lumpy and ideological prose of Rand and pass a test on its contents—or run this risk of not graduating. Sen. Goedde chose Atlas Shrugged, he said, because it was the book that “made my son a Republican,” and would likely do the same for many of Idaho’s children.

Goedde's a dem senator, his follow up..

As the Spokesman-Review explained, he was merely “sending a message to the State Board of Education, because he’s unhappy with its recent move to repeal a rule requiring two online courses to graduate from high school, and with its decision to back off on another planned rule regarding principal evaluations.” Goedde told the paper that he was firing “a shot over their bow just to let them know that there’s another way to adopt high school graduation requirements.”
 
Gore and democrats thought thy were pretty invincible in 1997 yet republicans won the WH in the next election; Obama is no Clinton, and the economy remains weak.
They had every reason to be invincible. If Clinton didn't get his blowjob, Gore would've been the president. Simple as that. Even then, Gore won nationally and Bush's win is still seen as an aberration.
 

Chichikov

Member
its like when someone starts getting worried about deficits when EV is around
More like if someone was worried that we're running out of serial numbers for our paper money.
I hate to be the "LOL gaming side sucks" guy, and really, performance analysis is a complicated and (mostly) boring field, not something you should be shamed of not being fluent at, but by god, the chasm between the confidence and actual domain knowledge is something I have not seen on the internet.
Well, outside the NBA thread.

I guess I don't really hate to be that guy :(
 

Fuchsdh

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I would think that Scalia's replacement day would be the point where they realize that all is lost, and that there's no denying it or hope to turn things around. Having five judges on the high court has been their ace in the hole for decades now, and losing such a trump card would be devastating.

I think I'd take off of work and watch Fox all day when it happens. Yup.

Does anyone think Scalia or Thomas would step down willingly if a Democrat was in the White House? I'd expect them to go until they died.
 
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TheOnion said:
Hungover Energy Secretary Wakes Up Next To Solar Panel

WASHINGTON—Sources have reported that following a long night of carousing at a series of D.C. watering holes, Energy Secretary Steven Chu awoke Thursday morning to find himself sleeping next to a giant solar panel he had met the previous evening. “Oh, Christ, what the hell did I do last night?” Chu is said to have muttered to himself while clutching his aching head and grimacing at the partially blanketed 18-square-foot photovoltaic solar module whose manufacturer he was reportedly unable to recall. “This is bad. I really need to stop doing this. I’ve got to get this thing out of here before my wife gets home.”
http://www.theonion.com/articles/hungover-energy-secretary-wakes-up-next-to-solar-p,31204/

official Chu Facebook page said:
I just want everyone to know that my decision not to serve a second term as Energy Secretary has absolutely nothing to do with the allegations made in this week’s edition of the Onion. While I’m not going to confirm or deny the charges specifically, I will say that clean, renewable solar power is a growing source of U.S. jobs and is becoming more and more affordable, so it’s no surprise that lots of Americans are falling in love with solar.
http://blogs.federaltimes.com/feder...gys-steven-chu-has-an-awesome-sense-of-humor/


Ugh . . . I wish he stayed at the DoE. :-(
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Related . . . Is Rand Paul bald? That squirrel's nest on his head looks a bit suspicious.
I can honestly believe a strong wind blowing off a toupe on the campaign trail would doom a contender. If you're going bald you Bruce Willis it, spend a fortune on transplants or just let the chips fall.
 
The gaming forum is like an alternate universe where Romney won.

Wii U is getting massacred out there.

At 4pm on black Friday I noticed several WiiUs on the shelf at my local Fry's and posted this in a thread questioning whether WiiU was underperforming. I got flamed badly but the signs of trouble were there early on.
 
On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton continues to dominate both nationally and in Iowa. Nationally she's at 58% to 19% for Joe Biden, 8% for Elizabeth Warren, and 3% for Andrew Cuomo. She's even stronger in Iowa at 68% to 21% for Biden with no one else over 2%. Her favorability rating with Democrats there is 90/5.

Now that would be badass.

From a distance, it seems like everyone wants Hillary to run but Hillary. But who knows, maybe she's just hiding it well.
 

Guileless

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Contra the Washington Post piece is Benjamin Domenech (no link) whose thesis is that Washington conventional wisdom is outmoded regarding the influence of neoconservatives on the Republican party.

President Obama’s insists that he’s prepared for a fight over the sequester with House Republicans. But his remarks read less like a politician scrapping for a fight than one who’s had a troubling moment of clarity: this was a trap, and he walked into it. Senate Democrats are scrambling to come up with an alternate plan. But those working in the Defense industry increasingly expect these cuts are coming, and that Republicans to heed Charles Krauthammer’s words: “The political calculation was that such draconian defense cuts would drive the GOP to offer concessions. It backfired. The Republicans have offered no concessions. Obama’s bluff is being called and he’s the desperate party. He abhors the domestic cuts. And as commander in chief he must worry about indiscriminate Pentagon cuts that his own defense secretary calls catastrophic. So Tuesday, Obama urgently called on Congress to head off the sequester with a short-term fix. But instead of offering an alternative $1.2 trillion in cuts, Obama demanded a “balanced approach,” coupling any cuts with new tax increases. What should the Republicans do? Nothing.”

Why did the White House walk into this trap? How did Obama and the Democrats get themselves in this box? Simple: they assumed the Washington Republican elite still represented the dominant paradigm in policy on the right...

Except this was a flawed hypothesis. Obama and his advisors failed to recognize that today’s GOP isn’t the party of Cold War era buildups or George W. Bush’s unrestricted war on terror any more. Perhaps this is a conceit forged by the DC bubble – neoconservatism’s influence is strongest in Washington, and begins to fade as soon as you hit the beltway. Bill Kristol speaks for a faction of Republicans, not the party in toto. And while it is inconceivable to many in Washington that the Defense budget would ever be cut, the right’s grassroots base has dramatically shifted on this point over the past several years. This is not your pre-Tea Party GOP any more. This is a post-financial crisis, post-TARP, post-bailout Republican Party, where concerns about unrestricted spending and out of control budgets take precedence over concerns about spending at the Pentagon.

There were signals of the shift. The joint AEI/Heritage/FPI Defending Defense project has never caught on as much as you would expect in former years. Consider the freshman House split over the F-35 second engine vote a while back. 47 Republican freshmen voted to cut funding, 40 voted to keep it – and those who voted to cut included people like Allen West, while those who voted to keep included Michele Bachmann. When the engine was cut, libertarian anti-tax and Tea Party groups held celebratory parties.
 

gcubed

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Contra the Washington Post piece is Benjamin Domenech (no link) whose thesis is that Washington conventional wisdom is outmoded regarding the influence of neoconservatives on the Republican party.

This is not your pre-Tea Party GOP any more. This is a post-financial crisis, post-TARP, post-bailout Republican Party, where concerns about unrestricted spending and out of control budgets take precedence over concerns about spending at the Pentagon.

i'm not sure what world he lives in, but its not ours
 
i'm not sure what world he lives in, but its not ours
Meh. I wouldn't say the GOP is anti-Pentagon but they are at least divided now. Rand Paul seems like he'd be fine with slashing the defense budget (along with everything else). If you poll rank & file GOPers on Afghanistan the majority now says "Get out". So there has been change. But the neocons certainly still hold a lot of power . . . Chuck Hagel is being pilloried because of his reticence to start wars.
 
Contra the Washington Post piece is Benjamin Domenech (no link) whose thesis is that Washington conventional wisdom is outmoded regarding the influence of neoconservatives on the Republican party.
Where's Black Mamba

Boehner at least sounds receptive to a deal, but then again he is a logical person and doesn't live in crazy land like his caucus. How does he sell 400b in taxe revenue to these people, after tax rates were raised not long ago on their watch.

What can they cut? Republicans don't want to name anything, democrats don't cut to cut anything, Obama wants to cut social security. It's hard to see where the middle ground is. A logical Republican Party would accept 400b in loophole revenue in exchange for chained CPI and some other cuts (including perhaps some defense cuts); Obama wants a big deal and would certainly settle for a "sort of" big deal like this.
 

Slacker

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They all changed their minds when Romney became the Republican presidential nominee.



Of course, now that he lost they may have changed their minds back again.

They never really changed their minds, they just held their noses and tried to justify why he was worthy of their vote aside from the fact that he wasn't Satan's personal helper like Obama.

Please note I'm talking about Far-right-wing conservative Christians here - lots of Christians voted for Romney based on party only not caring about his religion, and of course lots of Christians voted for Obama.
 

Gotchaye

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Meh. I wouldn't say the GOP is anti-Pentagon but they are at least divided now. Rand Paul seems like he'd be fine with slashing the defense budget (along with everything else). If you poll rank & file GOPers on Afghanistan the majority now says "Get out". So there has been change. But the neocons certainly still hold a lot of power . . . Chuck Hagel is being pilloried because of his reticence to start wars.

Beyond all this, though, neoconservatism isn't the main reason the GOP is pro- defense spending. They're pro- spending for the same reason the Democrats are: the military-industrial complex. It's easy-to-justify pork and a jobs program that doesn't look like charity or socialism. Plus being "strong on defense" is a very good thing in a general election.

I can buy that Republicans will have an easier time accepting defense cuts via inaction than tax increases that require their active support, but surely delaying or canceling the cuts is preferable to either for almost all Republicans in Congress.

If Obama wanted to cancel the defense cuts and nothing else, I'm confident that would happen. I think the real danger here is that, to the extent that the Democrats also want to cancel the military cuts, Republicans can use the same strategy Obama used for the tax portion of the fiscal cliff. Both parties likely agree that the military cuts are bad and should be moved around, but the Republicans are at least going to pretend to be happy about the other cuts. Many Democrats couldn't take hostages here even if they wanted to, since they're already on record talking about how bad the cuts would be. Democrats who really do think that the military cuts are acceptable need to be speaking up.
 
Where's Black Mamba

Boehner at least sounds receptive to a deal, but then again he is a logical person and doesn't live in crazy land like his caucus. How does he sell 400b in taxe revenue to these people, after tax rates were raised not long ago on their watch.

What can they cut? Republicans don't want to name anything, democrats don't cut to cut anything, Obama wants to cut social security. It's hard to see where the middle ground is. A logical Republican Party would accept 400b in loophole revenue in exchange for chained CPI and some other cuts (including perhaps some defense cuts); Obama wants a big deal and would certainly settle for a "sort of" big deal like this.

Founder of red state thinks GOP has the edge. YOU DON'T SAY.
 

gcubed

Member
i thought the non defense cuts weren't that big of a deal, what are they?

Defense heavily ramped down in anticipation of the cuts, which is what caused our negative GDP. Are most of the cuts impact factored in? I'd rather cut defense, and use the money where it can make a difference instead of just cutting things and saving the money
 

Chumly

Member
To me, saying Mormons are Christians is like saying Christians are Jews. I don't think you get to add another book to a religion's preexisting holy text and claim to be the same thing.
Exactly. Mormons are not considered under the same umbrella as the rest of Christianity. Otherwise we might as well be calling Islam the same as Christianity as well since its abrahamic religion.
 

pigeon

Banned
Meh. I wouldn't say the GOP is anti-Pentagon but they are at least divided now. Rand Paul seems like he'd be fine with slashing the defense budget (along with everything else). If you poll rank & file GOPers on Afghanistan the majority now says "Get out". So there has been change. But the neocons certainly still hold a lot of power . . . Chuck Hagel is being pilloried because of his reticence to start wars.

They're absolutely divided, but that's the point. There are definitely some Republicans who would be happy to slash the defense budget to avoid raising taxes. But there are also plenty of neoconservative Republicans who oppose any cuts in the defense budget. There are also quite a few pragmatic Republicans who, I suspect, aren't thrilled about the next step in their party's reinvention being forcing defense cuts -- combined with immigration reform, this seems like a great way to shed the majority of the old Republican base.

Having a fractured caucus isn't an advantage for the Republicans, because they can go any direction -- it's the opposite, because they can't go in any direction. It's the debt ceiling all over again.
 
Exactly. Mormons are not considered under the same umbrella as the rest of Christianity. Otherwise we might as well be calling Islam the same as Christianity as well since its abrahamic religion.

Mormons are christians. They have jesus christ. They are part of Restorationism

Just so y'all know, this is not a winnable argument by anybody. Christianity is not subject to empirical scrutiny. Whether one is a Christian or not depends upon an individual's own understanding of the religion. And as we all know, religious beliefs don't exactly tend towards consensus to which one could point as defining what a Christian is.
 

I'm guessing we'll get a anonymous source driven "Republican insiders question Christie's 2016 chances" article from Politico any day now. The guy seems to have no restraint or self control, and it's reflected by his anger and weight. He's very smart and talented but it's getting harder to see his abrasive style working outside of the tri state area.

Can you imagine how ugly his style would look against a female candidate (Hillary)?
 
I'm guessing we'll get a anonymous source driven "Republican insiders question Christie's 2016 chances" article from Politico any day now. The guy seems to have no restraint or self control, and it's reflected by his anger and weight. He's very smart and talented but it's getting harder to see his abrasive style working outside of the tri state area.

Can you imagine how ugly his style would look against a female candidate (Hillary)?

Conservatives would love it
 
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