jamesinclair
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So bad.
He could have grabbed it and drank it like a boss. Instead he looks like a panicked middle schooler.
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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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So bad.
He could have grabbed it and drank it like a boss. Instead he looks like a panicked middle schooler.
"But his favorite attack of all is that those of us who don't agree with him, that we only care about rich people," he says as he wipes a thick coat of nervous sweat off his face. Reminds me of Whalberg in The Happening.
"What?...No!"
LOL Walberg. Made me laugh out loud.
Avon Barksdale
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Fixed.
http://m.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2013
Apparently you can quote any part of the sotu speech and submit your comments.
That gaf gold level shit.
Apparently you can quote any part of the sotu speech and submit your comments.
That gaf gold level shit.
I am applauding you sir.
speculawyer
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Don't wanna take away from the SOTU festivities, but I felt it was worth mentioning Jon Stewart decided to take a certain shithead ex-VP to the woodshed:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-...-this-shity-vp-get-the-balls-to-attack-obama/
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stewart-...-this-shity-vp-get-the-balls-to-attack-obama/
adamsappel
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He was nervous. He'll be a lot more seasoned when it counts. He could turn this into a positive, though he runs the risk of having it stick.
He was nervous because he was walking out there with the same obsolete bullshit the right wing have pedaled for decades. See, it used to make sense, government was too big, we did need to de regulate, but that was the 80's, times have changed.
If he was to stroll out there with some serious Edmund Burke for the 21st century shit then we would all be talking about the great incoming revolution, but he didnt, it was tired and predictable with a dash of racial patronization thrown in.
His rebuttal was bullshit. Like modern day Republicanism.
He was nervous cause he was spouting bullshit.
Man the Republicans have some really shit luck with these responses to the State of the Union
Rubio sounded completely gobbed the entire speech, like he was completely naked in front of ten million people or something. Deer in the headlights don't even begin to describe his demeanor at points.
Rubio sounded completely gobbed the entire speech, like he was completely naked in front of ten million people or something. Deer in the headlights don't even begin to describe his demeanor at points.
Yeah, but at least he doesn't use a teleprompter! Oh, wait...
I like how he used to make it a point to not use a teleprompter (because, you know, he uses them), then in one speech he eventually lost a page and had to stop his speech awkwardly until an assistant gave him a copy. I think that put an end to that.
ryutaro's mama
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The water swig heard round the world.
Very Presidential.
Very Presidential.
Black Mamba
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The response will always look bad. Even when Pelosi and the Dems did it it looked bad (granted not that bad).
The President has an audience and feedback. Rubio was by himself. And standing. It is just terrible optics.
The President has an audience and feedback. Rubio was by himself. And standing. It is just terrible optics.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Everybody gets thirsty sometimes.
He was nervous because he's not a very good public speaker, and has less than Romney chance at being president.
He actually seems way better at off the cuff interviews than doing speeches. It's weird.
ryutaro's mama
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He should have played the drink of water cool. Obama delivered that ribbon cutting line with the swagger of a 1000 normal men.
Man,I wish for once I could see Obama talk trash without having to be in front of cameras or Presidential.
To have been a fly on the wall the night of the election results, either one.
Man,I wish for once I could see Obama talk trash without having to be in front of cameras or Presidential.
To have been a fly on the wall the night of the election results, either one.
Yes, lets get a guy whose not a good public speaker to respond to the SOTU.
Black Mamba
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Thankfully, Obama didn't go for another milk joke like last year. Oh man was that bad.
I disagree with this. There are many politicians that deliver the standard Republican message with more confidence and energy; Chris Christie is an example of this.
speculawyer
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Yeah, I can't imagine him up there debating with Bachmann, Cain, Rick Perry, Santorum, . . . actually he would fit right in the clown car. LOL
PhoenixDark
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I do wonder how Rubio would react in a hostile situation where not everyone is buying what he's selling. While I don't think Christie will appeal to the far right, I can at least imagine him holding his own against them with force and wit; whereas Rubio seems like he could be a fish out of water if faced with a tough crowd (like Romney at the Iowa state fair). If republicans pass immigration yet still lose the Hispanic vote big time in 2014 I can imagine Rubio's shelf life will begin to expire.
Yeah, but christie appears to believe it, Rubio got token'ed.
Rocket Scientist
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Looks like things went well. Great news to wake up to.
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Just got done watching my DVR recording of the SOTU and Rubio's response. Rubio... oh man. That was just straight embarrassing. Isn't the point of being prerecorded to not sweat, flub, and lip smack your way through what you're saying? I could actually hear his tongue in his mouth by the end of it.
It was the functional equivalent of a State of the Union address, even though the first time for an incoming president isn't always referred to as a "state of the union" address.
Rubio's arid performance did not surprise me in the least. His supposed "Republican Obama" credentials have always been overstated and we just witnessed whatever remained of his theoretical political prowess wither away.
The ideological drought that has plagued the GOP has shown no sign of abatement in years and tonight was no exception. Alleged future leaders of the Republican Party like Rubio continue to spew the same tired, recycled rhetoric to quench the desires of conservatives who only have an interest in having their ideological bubble coddled and polished. But this target audience has proved little more than a desiccant to Rubio's chances in the near term, as this speech will be of no use in a primary and certainly makes Rubio's hypothetical general election landscape look more barren. In the meantime, this leaves the country high and dry as we persist in having only one functional (if still flawed) political party.
The ideological drought that has plagued the GOP has shown no sign of abatement in years and tonight was no exception. Alleged future leaders of the Republican Party like Rubio continue to spew the same tired, recycled rhetoric to quench the desires of conservatives who only have an interest in having their ideological bubble coddled and polished. But this target audience has proved little more than a desiccant to Rubio's chances in the near term, as this speech will be of no use in a primary and certainly makes Rubio's hypothetical general election landscape look more barren. In the meantime, this leaves the country high and dry as we persist in having only one functional (if still flawed) political party.
brianmcdoogle
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I asked my question right before Rubio's sip of water, so I'm not surprised it got lost in the chaos, but, I'll ask again:
Rubio suggested a lot of our debt problems would dissipate if our economy grew at least at 4%. When has our economy grown more than 4% in the last thirty years? Anyone know?
Rubio suggested a lot of our debt problems would dissipate if our economy grew at least at 4%. When has our economy grown more than 4% in the last thirty years? Anyone know?
Black Mamba
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Rocket Scientist
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Wow. If they passed all this shit... woah.
Edit: Why is Obama buddy buddy with that Republican exploding fistbump guy?
Edit: What happens when a few from the other side get up and clap but they're sitting next to two people who don't clap? Isn't that incredibly awkward lol? Do people remember who got up and who clapped or not? Do they gossip about it later? Are these people shunned? It all seems so stupid and awkward when everything that's being said is reasonable.
Edit: So this is good stuff. Maybe I'm just not remembering the last few SOTU's as well, but this is definitely a step up. Even though I feel like every Obama SOTU has been pretty good with specifics etc.
Edit: Why is Obama buddy buddy with that Republican exploding fistbump guy?
Edit: What happens when a few from the other side get up and clap but they're sitting next to two people who don't clap? Isn't that incredibly awkward lol? Do people remember who got up and who clapped or not? Do they gossip about it later? Are these people shunned? It all seems so stupid and awkward when everything that's being said is reasonable.
Edit: So this is good stuff. Maybe I'm just not remembering the last few SOTU's as well, but this is definitely a step up. Even though I feel like every Obama SOTU has been pretty good with specifics etc.
TacticalFox88
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Did Rubio just seriously grab water while still staring at the camera? LOL. Dems better take full advantage of just how many clowns are in the GOP. If Hillary runs its going to be a slaughter possibly greater than 08
Black Republican
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cooljeanius
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Just used the shit out of that
Black Republican
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Ya'll hate Rubio too much.
PhoenixDark
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Just found out that's Mark Kirk, who just returned to the senate after a stroke. So he's got an excuse lol; it's good that he's recovering, and I read an article about how the hospital experience convinced him that stroke victims on Medicaid deserve more hospital time to properly recover.
Haven't watched the rebuttal, but I think jumping to conclusions about Rubio is premature. He did give a pretty damn good speech at the convention, that would have had people talking more if it wasn't for Clint and his invisible chair.
But the whole 'Golden Boy' myth is a creation purely of the media. They need something to talk about now that the election is over. It would be much better if they did their jobs and did some actual investigative journalism - you know, about issues and stuff - but that's boring and expensive.
Btw Obama's speech was ace. I just wish people who don't agree with him actually watched his speech, so they could see how reasonable are his proposals. Too bad people don't and instead get their views after it has bubbled through the Hannity / Limbaugh / Fox punditry filtration system.
But the whole 'Golden Boy' myth is a creation purely of the media. They need something to talk about now that the election is over. It would be much better if they did their jobs and did some actual investigative journalism - you know, about issues and stuff - but that's boring and expensive.
Btw Obama's speech was ace. I just wish people who don't agree with him actually watched his speech, so they could see how reasonable are his proposals. Too bad people don't and instead get their views after it has bubbled through the Hannity / Limbaugh / Fox punditry filtration system.
Rocket Scientist
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Yup. Very sad. The ''enhanced'' graphs and everything also help so much in visualizing the point he's making in a simple way. Did they have this before Obama? I'm assuming not.
Surprised you didn't spin this to be Obama lowering the bar of expectations so that when the vote inevitably fails he can proclaim victory, wash his hands clean and move on, in another glaring example of his inability to lead.
Election-year PD would have been all over this. You're slippin'.
I think the administration has accepted that universal background checks + tougher laws for people who buy guns for people who can't obtain them legally is the most realistic gun law that they're going to get. I think these two things will have a better impact on gun violence than the AWB. Though I agree with the AWB, I'd much rather get these things passed and lose the ban than fight for it and get nothing.
Rocket Scientist
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The narrative that cops shouldn't be outgunned by citizens is a good move though. It could gain traction. Though you're right that those two are far more important than a ban. Throw in increased mental services and you've got a good step forward.
The Librarian
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Yeah, man. You gotta hate the people of the opposite party at all times and forever. Otherwise nothing gets done.
Do you think anything will be accomplished with a divided federal government if all Obama does is antagonize every Republican? Even though most of the party is determined to do nothing, a few votes this year have shown that some Republicans are willing to get something done. It is in the country's best interest, and the Democratic Party's best interest, that they get just enough Republicans to go along with a few key proposals because otherwise Obama is already a lame duck.
The reality of the situation is that Obama can't just go super-liberal and expect Republicans to do the same or to magically get what he wants from a divided Congress.
Whether or not hardcore conservatives or liberals like it, our government is built on compromise. No amount of whining from either side is ever going to change that. I know liberals cannot stomach the fact that Obama hasn't declared the Republican Party a hate group, but no matter how the other side acts, a good President acknowledges their existence and understand that big ideas have to go through both parties if anything is to come of them.
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