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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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TacticalFox88

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I don't think a political cartoon has depressed me this much in a Looong time.

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Trurl

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Does anyone else listen to the Slate Political Gabfest? I thought Emily Bazelon seemed oddly prudish when talking about Anthony Weiner.
 
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The Technomancer

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speculawyer said:
Holy smokes. This map was in another thread. Wow is this nation polarized. Even something as random as a 'missed connections' map seems to correlate with an electoral college map. Look at the WalMarts.

http://i.imgur.com/0biAu03.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

Hah, "bar" in Wisconsin does not surprise me in the least
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Tamanon

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That map certainly explains a bit of the difference in health around the nation.

And yeah, North Carolina has a shitload of Walmarts, but it seems that people intentionally try to look less attractive there.
 
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The Technomancer

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The Walmart cliche is almost depressing. Much like the actual Walmart here in St. Paul, which is like walking into a warehouse staffed by zombies
 
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Shadow Hog

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Apparently date-seekers in New York like to eat fresh.

Yeah, they probably mean an ACTUAL subway and not Subway, but it's funnier to read it this way.
 
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speculawyer

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That Socialist Kenyan doesn't seem to understand Socialism very well.

Obama Budget Ponders Sale of Tennessee Valley Authority

President Barack Obama is considering the sale of all or part of the Tennessee Valley Authority (3015A), the largest publicly owned U.S. power company, in a deal that may raise as much as $35 billion as the administration seeks to reduce the national debt.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...ennessee-valley-authority-in-budget-plan.html

And it gets better . . .
Both of Tennessee’s Republican senators oppose a sale.
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LOL
 
empty vessel

empty vessel

Member
I'm going to have to start considering voting Republican. They are beginning to demonstrate themselves to be economically to the left of Democrats.
 
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Captain Pants

Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
The Idaho one doesn't surprise me much. I'd have guessed that bars would be more popular than Wallmart since I don't know anyone who shops there, but nearly every non-mormon here is a functioning alcoholic.
 
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PhoenixDark

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Carville hits the nail on the head
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.c...hink-obama-likes-upsetting-liberals-video?m=1

Selling a power plant for 35b to lower the deficit? Cutting social security benefits to save 150b over a decade...there's no policy explanation for any of this, it's all Beltway politics. If you raise the cap on social security you fix the program. If you allow the government to negotiate drug prices you lower the deficit and help people. If you make smart defense and Medicare cuts you lower the deficit without hurting anyone. So why are we focusing on boutique cuts that hurt more than they help?

This is some of the most pathetic peer pressure I've seen. It's not leadership, it's not smart politics, it's not sound policy, it simply makes no sense.
 
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bonercop

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PhoenixPause said:
Carville hits the nail on the head
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.c...hink-obama-likes-upsetting-liberals-video?m=1

Selling a power plant for 35b to lower the deficit? Cutting social security benefits to save 150b over a decade...there's no policy explanation for any of this, it's all Beltway politics. If you raise the cap on social security you fix the program. If you allow the government to negotiate drug prices you lower the deficit and help people. If you make smart defense and Medicare cuts you lower the deficit without hurting anyone. So why are we focusing on boutique cuts that hurt more than they help?

This is some of the most pathetic peer pressure I've seen. It's not leadership, it's not smart politics, it's not sound policy, it simply makes no sense.
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nah man, you'll see. this is all part of obama's 12(!) dimensional chess move. any day now, he's going to turn everything around and reveal his liberal master plan.
 
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Aaron Strife

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PhoenixPause said:
If you raise the cap on social security you fix the program. If you allow the government to negotiate drug prices you lower the deficit and help people. If you make smart defense and Medicare cuts you lower the deficit without hurting anyone.
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Do you think the GOP would agree to either of these?

I don't know how liberals get off saying Obama needs to "lead more" and just push through the most progressive budget possible and somehow get the GOP to sign off on it. You can say 70-80% of Americans support expanding Medicare, support preserving Social Security, support raising taxes on the wealthy etc. but the Republicans clearly don't give a shit about public opinion. If they did they'd be supporting gun control and gay marriage.

Perhaps Obama's going about this the wrong way - maybe - but there's not much he can do unless Democrats win the House next year.
 
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Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Forgive my ignorance, but what would be wrong with privatizing the Tennessee Valley Authority? And why are Republicans against it?

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not generally for privatizing things, but I figure you could do a lot worse than the TVA. Besides, it's in Tennessee, so fuck those guys.
 
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fallagin

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Oblivion said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what would be wrong with privatizing the Tennessee Valley Authority? And why are Republicans against it?

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not generally for privatizing things, but I figure you could do a lot worse than the TVA. Besides, it's in Tennessee, so fuck those guys.
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Well it's technically only 2 republicans who are vocally oppossed to it right now.(and that's only because they are from Tennessee)

I tend to agree with your assessment of Tennessee, but it's still a step backwards nevertheless and it pretty much sucks for everyone there.
 
empty vessel

empty vessel

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Aaron Strife said:
Do you think the GOP would agree to either of these?

I don't know how liberals get off saying Obama needs to "lead more" and just push through the most progressive budget possible and somehow get the GOP to sign off on it. You can say 70-80% of Americans support expanding Medicare, support preserving Social Security, support raising taxes on the wealthy etc. but the Republicans clearly don't give a shit about public opinion. If they did they'd be supporting gun control and gay marriage.

Perhaps Obama's going about this the wrong way - maybe - but there's not much he can do unless Democrats win the House next year.
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He can not offer to do unwise things. Is it not better to do nothing than to do harm?

Oblivion said:
Forgive my ignorance, but what would be wrong with privatizing the Tennessee Valley Authority? And why are Republicans against it?

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not generally for privatizing things, but I figure you could do a lot worse than the TVA. Besides, it's in Tennessee, so fuck those guys.
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Privatization means increased prices. It's also pointless, because the stated purpose of doing so is debt reduction, and debt is a public good. Government debt is private savings.
 
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PhoenixDark

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Aaron Strife said:
Do you think the GOP would agree to either of these?

I don't know how liberals get off saying Obama needs to "lead more" and just push through the most progressive budget possible and somehow get the GOP to sign off on it. You can say 70-80% of Americans support expanding Medicare, support preserving Social Security, support raising taxes on the wealthy etc. but the Republicans clearly don't give a shit about public opinion. If they did they'd be supporting gun control and gay marriage.

Perhaps Obama's going about this the wrong way - maybe - but there's not much he can do unless Democrats win the House next year.
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1) No, I don't believe republicans would agree to either, nor do I believe Obama would propose them since he's in bed with Pharma

2) Do you think it will be easier or harder for democrats to win the House after championing Social Security cuts?

I realize some type of compromise will need to be made, my problem here is that Social Security has NOTHING to do with the deficit and can be completely fixed in painless fashion (raising the cap). For instance I could honestly agree to bigger Medicare cuts, perhaps even some that hit benefits, since there will be overlap between Obamacare coverage; so while you cut money, ultimately enrollees will not be hurt since they'll qualify for a host of subsidies under the health care law. But I would not put that on paper until republicans agree to tax revenue.
 
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NYCmetsfan

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empty vessel said:
Privatization means increased prices. It's also pointless, because the stated purpose of doing so is debt reduction, and debt is a public good. Government debt is private savings.
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Not always, though probably in this case. The government can artificially hold down prices and on things like energy that isn't always desirable, I'm not an expert on the TVA though

How does the TVA generate power? If it uses coal an increase in costs could also be a good thing
 
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pigeon

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PhoenixPause said:
1) No, I don't believe republicans would agree to either, nor do I believe Obama would propose them since he's in bed with Pharma
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You...do know Obama's budget cuts $164 billion to drug companies, mostly by changing Medicare drug rates to the much lower Medicaid drug rates, right?
 
Guileless

Guileless

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mckmas8808 said:
My co-worker does. He says that every country hates on America when they should be praising us do to our freedoms and all the good that we've done.
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Aa to fans of mass consumer culture, your co-worker is right. Not so for uptight people who don't like Doritos Locos Tacos and the Transformers films.
 
Jackben

Jackben

bitch I'm taking calls.
Gotta be satire.

EDIT: he's made it a bumper sticker

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/201...r-if-babies-had-guns-they-wouldnt-be-aborted/

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According to Sentiment140, a Twitter analysis tool, 54 percent of mentions of @ReElectStockman is negative. One Twitter user responded to the tweet with:

“@ReElectStockman you are beyond despicable, beyond offensive, beyond any sense of human dignity.”

Stockman responded to the criticism on his personal Twitter handle…

Democrats offended by a bumper sticker, not offended by #Gosnell.Thank you for helping me illustrate your double standard. #hypocrites

— Rep. Steve Stockman (@SteveWorks4You) April 12, 2013
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mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
GhaleonEB said:
So. Fucking. Predictable. This was called by everyone during the last "grand bargain" negotiations. Even the Obama administration players correctly gamed out that it was the reason the GOP would not name their entitlement cuts: they wanted Obama to own them for the inevitable bait and switch.

Obama walked right into it. He learned zilch from his entire first term working with these people. I don't think it's a stretch to say this will have an impact on the House midterms. The collective cry of dismay from House Dems when chained CPI was known to be included in the budget was deafening.
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It wouldn't have any impact on the House midterms because no congressman or woman has voted for anything. Tying this to the House midterms is a terrible stretch.
 
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Allard

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Black Mamba said:
Onion. HAS TO BE.
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Its not, this is the guy who brought Ted Nugent to the state of the Union earlier this year and implied wanting to impeach Obama if he pursued gun control.

Oh and he also said this in regards to the Violence against women act:

“This is helping the liberals, this is horrible. Unbelievable. What really bothers — it’s called a women’s act, but then they have men dressed up as women, they count that. Change-gender, or whatever. How is that — how is that a woman?”
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http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/19/gop-...ible-bill-that-helps-men-dressed-up-as-women/

several other things he said are also in that article :p
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
TacticalFox88 said:
So basically the legislation, if it even passes the house, is fucking useless on any practical level?

Fuck this country so hard for letting the problem get this bad and STILL are taking half-ass steps to address it.
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Not really. It's just you being pissed that things are perfect.
 
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Amir0x

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he made that shit into a bumper sticker. i think the world is done for, dead not by nuclear war or an asteroid but by an implosion of sheer stupidity
 
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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Amir0x said:
he made that shit into a bumper sticker. i think the world is done for, dead not by nuclear war or an asteroid but by an implosion of sheer stupidity
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If we haven't reached the limit of stupidity the universe can handle yet I doubt we ever will.
 
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