Surprising no one, Rand Paul will probably continue Ron's family tradition of fleecing money from their supporters running for president in 2016.
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PoliGAF 2013 |OT1| Never mind, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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speculawyer
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And I'm sure he'll be as successful as his father.
I think he will. They made a lot of money last year.
Aaron Strife
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That was the government shutdown. A maneuver by House Republicans to damage Clinton's popularity that also backfired.
PhoenixDark
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Rand could do some interesting stuff with social media/tech in 2015/2016, could be interesting. I'll have to ask some of my Paulite friends what they think of the son, and whether he can use the passion people have for his dad to his advantage.
Ignatz Mouse
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The only thing that made it politically harmful to Clinton was that it kept in the news his infidelity and lying about it. He ran in 92 and part of the narrative was that he had cheated in the past but put his marriage back together (remember, this is the "character matters" and "family values" era), and then it comes out that he was still philandering while actually in the White House, and then lied (in some really slimy lawyery ways) about it afterwards.
Essentially, it put Clinton's weakest aspects in the news with the historical significance of impeachment helping keep it there.
Even still, it hurt but didn't wipe him out politically, and it was also the best that the GOP could do after digging for dirt on Whitewater for years.
The GOP ended up looking worse, and I don't think that's lost on the modern GOP. The only impeachment rumblings will be individuals playing to their bases for the next primary season.
Ah. My apologies.
Particle Physicist
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Jesus. This is like an image from one of the fake onion videos. Unbelievable
I haven't watched it yet, but Paul Krugman sat down with Bill Moyers for an interview.
He doesn't seem to be nearly as vocal in his opposition to entrenched anti-Libertarian Republican ideals. If anything, he's settled into being a boilerplate GOP senator.
That is just great :lol
platypotamus
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Well done Paul Shawcross
Welp, fuck you if you don't think the current admin is awesome.
Meanwhile...
wapo said:
And you thought I was kidding about the coinstitutional crisis!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-democrats-to-obama-ignore-the-debt-ceiling/
NullPointer
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The Librarian
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The Senate Dem leaders are cointe on the nose, wouldn't you say?
With the GOP clearly walking off the plank, does this mean Rand Paul and the libertarians take their place?
Tax credits and deductions are just another form of spending. Except with a more palatable name.
I continue to think how amazing the position the US could have been in compared to the rest of the world had the Republicans not been trying to stonewall everything the current Administration has been trying to achieve since in power, no matter how big or small, no matter what the negative consequences.
The refusal of the Republicans (and I'm sure many Democrats) to govern toward the benefit of the nation rather than toward the power of their party makes a mockery of "the world's greatest democracy".
A little cooperation could go so far. But even in the face of massive natural disasters, it appears there can be none.
Republicans are fantastic at defying logic. They excel at it.
Just got my first paycheck for the year, got a raise but I take home less now due to the new taxesfeels bad man
That doesn't make sense.
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Sure it does. It means his raise was less than 2%.
(Not an exact mathematical interpretation, but close enough.)
Payroll tax not income tax I imagine. Or someone needs an education on income tax margins.
Rocket Scientist
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Genius.
Hearing Stephanie Kelton talk is kind of arousing.
This former Bush flack is being really stupid though.
EV is speechless. Seriously though, EV said he wanted this debate to reach the mainstream, so for MMT this is kind of their moment. Sucks it's happening at 8am on Saturday as opposed to at FOX, where it's 24/7 bashing the T-Coin idea. Peter Schiff is gonna have Stephanie followed I think.
CherryWoodFuton
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Should I blame Obama for this???Just got my first paycheck for the year, got a raise but I take home less now due to the new taxes
Aww, I think I missed the good Stephanie Kelton stuff
I got up and showered and stuff and didn't get to Up until an hour into the show. I was excited to see her there, but she didn't say much in that last segment. Guess I'll watch the first part of the show online.
Yeah, my check from one of my jobs went down by about 15 bucks, which means I'm out 30 bucks per month just from that one job. My wife's I think a bit less. Harder to tell with hers though since she's not salaried like me. Luckily my second 'temporary' job will be extending longer than I thought, so I'll still have a lot more money to get me through.
I got up and showered and stuff and didn't get to Up until an hour into the show. I was excited to see her there, but she didn't say much in that last segment. Guess I'll watch the first part of the show online.
Just got my first paycheck for the year, got a raise but I take home less now due to the new taxes
Yeah, my check from one of my jobs went down by about 15 bucks, which means I'm out 30 bucks per month just from that one job. My wife's I think a bit less. Harder to tell with hers though since she's not salaried like me. Luckily my second 'temporary' job will be extending longer than I thought, so I'll still have a lot more money to get me through.
el retorno
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How quickly do they put this stuff up on the web?
Black Republican
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Cant wait for Inauguration.
Obama to announce end of guns, end of white america, more malt liquor and your white womenz belong to us lolz
Obama to announce end of guns, end of white america, more malt liquor and your white womenz belong to us lolz
3-4 hours after they finish airing, I believe. Should be up by 11 PST.
airmangataosenai
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Rocket Scientist
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That's funny.
The Librarian
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That's actually LOL worthy.
speculawyer
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Unlike so many of the others, at least this one is not obtuse.
This one is just factually wrong. A bunch of democrats just voted to reduce the taxes on all Americans in response to Republican tax hike (the expiration of the earlier tax cuts.).
PhoenixDark
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Mine was just a few dollars lower so I can't complain. I did hear an employee ask our (small business) employer how the Bush tax raise will affect the business. He was puzzled and then said "not at all."Just got my first paycheck for the year, got a raise but I take home less now due to the new taxes
Obamacare on the other hand...
Guileless
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Is anybody interested in a PoliGAF book club with different viewpoints, e.g. one month Rachel Maddow's Drift and the next month Robert Kagan's The World America Made? I think we would have the most success with medium-length books that would be fairly quick reads (i.e. we wouldn't read Leviathan or Atlas Shrugged). The election is over and the daily shit show from Washington is depressing to follow closely, so I'd rather spend the time I devote to politics this way.
I've mentioned this a few times over the years but never had more than a tepid response nor did I really just take the initiative to make it happen. I'm 100% down though. Hopefully a few others are into it as well.
Completely unrelated, but latest Frontline is pretty good- The Education of Michelle Rhee http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/education-of-michelle-rhee/
Next week's is going to be a review of the first four years of the Obama presidency. Can't wait. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/inside-obamas-presidency/
The Librarian
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I'm too busy with The Passage of Power and readings for my classes, so I won't be able to join.
Guileless
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I understand the time concerns, which is why we would choose manageable lengths. I want to use the time I would normally spend reading online political content or newspaper op-eds to this, so the overall time commitment to politics will be virtually the same, just spent a different way.
Just got my first paycheck for the year, got a raise but I take home less now due to the new taxes
They aren't new taxes. They are old taxes that have returned. They actually shouldn't have gone away in the first place. But it shouldn't feel bad. I am in the deepest hole those cause and I am fucking glad and proud to be contributing normalized revenues to a country and people I love. And our healthcare is now more complex and ostensibly expensive (although my employer is paying the difference for now) and I'm glad about that too, because poor kids with cancer don't get denied by shitbag corporations now.
Aww, I think I missed the good Stephanie Kelton stuff
I got up and showered and stuff and didn't get to Up until an hour into the show. I was excited to see her there, but she didn't say much in that last segment. Guess I'll watch the first part of the show online.
For those who don't know, it looks like MSNBC puts Hayes' show up online the same way they do with Maddow's. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46979738/
I totally failed to see that you specifically mentioned watching it online. Apparently Oklahoma schools aren't great either.
Fixed.
PhoenixDark
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