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"This package is a joke compared to what we could have gotten if we had a more reasonable approach," Graham told the Washington Post on Wednesday. "But live and learn; we’ll be doing this in a couple months."

"But live and learn; we’ll be doing this in a couple months."

we’ll be doing this in a couple months."

oh em gee

 

[rocketknight]

This whole thing has been hilarious.

 

[thepotatoman]

I'd like to nominate Rush Limbaugh as speaker of the house.

I second that motion.

 

[siddhu33]

Ted Cruz talking on C-SPAN... he can sure blag pretty well.

 

[Joe Molotov]

oh em gee

 

[Fenderputty]

oh em gee

I hope they do this again ... The closer to 2014 the better.

 

[ido]

Today(and last night) has been a shit storm for the GOP. Hannity suggesting a party split, Limbaugh sounds like he is having a bigger stroke than he normally does, Cruz folding, the Tea Party forever unchanged in their stupidity, the in-fighting within the GOP, Boehner essentially getting less done than Bernie from Weekend at Bernies, and Fox News having no clue which way to tow the line.

I'm loving it... And now I want some McDonalds.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Wait, so that income verification thing is still in there? Is it stricter than the one that was already in Obamacare?

I bet it's actually more lenient.

oh em gee

A lot of people have expressed concern that the GOP's shitty poll numbers are only temporary and will reset once things get back to normal. Fortunately they don't seem to have any plans of "normalizing."

 

[Black Mamba]

Poor Lindsey

I can't keep track of this guy's changes in tone from hour to hour let alone day to day.



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/graham-this-package-is-a-joke

According to chait the McConnell provision is there for the February debt limit date but not after. So uh, they can't do this in a few months since Obama can raise it then on his own. But they could shut down the government lol.

 

[Riki]

According to chait the McConnell provision is there for the February debt limit date but not after. So uh, they can't do this in a few months since Obama can raise it then on his own. But they could shut down the government lol.

I hope they do this every time they can. Until they're finally voted out of every single seat they hold.

 

[ivysaur12]

oh em gee

And nothing was learned.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Ted Cruz talking on C-SPAN... he can sure blag pretty well.

 

[Black Mamba]

http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-joins-the-surrender-caucus-2013-10

Trololololol

 

[PhoenixDark]

According to chait the McConnell provision is there for the February debt limit date but not after. So uh, they can't do this in a few months since Obama can raise it then on his own. But they could shut down the government lol.

I don't think Graham means he'll shut down the government in a couple months actually. That ship has clearly sailed. This was the perfect time to try it, when you think about it. Once we get into 2014 folks will be busy running for re-election. Some House members may want to shut things down again, but leadership will be more focused on keeping the majority.

We won't see a shutdown for awhile IMO, given how large democrats won this.

 

[ivysaur12]

God, I hope Cruz wins Iowa.

 

[ido]

http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-joins-the-surrender-caucus-2013-10

Trololololol

"Hey guys, I'm really serious about stopping all of this... unless it's actually time to get really serious. I promise we'll be more serious next time!"

 

[Grover Cleveland]

oh em gee

I doubt he means he shut down the government and bring the world perilous close to financial meltdown again.

He even he said they need to take a more reasonable tact. And the closer we get to 2014, the less likely the GOP will be to do tactics that bring them so much ill will.

But you never know what the GOP's definition of reasonable means.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I hope they do this again ... The closer to 2014 the better.

yes, go ahead, by all means.

 

[Aaron Strife]

I don't think Graham means he'll shut down the government in a couple months actually. That ship has clearly sailed. This was the perfect time to try it, when you think about it. Once we get into 2014 folks will be busy running for re-election. Some House members may want to shut things down again, but leadership will be more focused on keeping the majority.

We won't see a shutdown for awhile IMO, given how large democrats won this.

For how many Republicans were selling the shutdown as a good thing, I won't be surprised if we get another one.

We'll see how the vote goes today.

 

[thefit]

And nothing was learned.

Apparently this isn't even their final form.


http://www.nytimes.com/news/fiscal-crisis/2013/10/16/house-conservatives-blame-moderates-not-boehner/?_r=0

House Conservatives Blame Moderates, Not Boehner

WASHINGTON — Moments before the Senate deal was finalized on Wednesday, some House conservatives were alternately defiant and defeated, acknowledging they may have lost the current battle but vowing to fight on.

At a longstanding lunch of House conservatives sponsored by the Heritage Foundation, hard-line Republican lawmakers largely rallied around Speaker John A. Boehner, blaming their more moderate colleagues who they said had not had the backbone to stand strong in the fight to defund or delay President Obama’s signature health care law.

“I’ve actually been really proud of Speaker Boehner the last two and half weeks,” said Representative Raul Labrador, Republican of Idaho, one of a small group of members who earlier this year did not vote to re-elect Mr. Boehner as speaker. “I’m more upset with my Republican conference, to be honest with you. It’s been Republicans here who apparently always want to fight — but they want to fight the next fight — that have given Speaker Boehner the inability to be successful in this fight.”

He added: “So if anybody should be kicked out, it’s probably those Republicans — and not Speaker Boehner — who are unwilling to keep the that promises they made to American people.”

 

[Armoured Priest]

http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-reid-boehner-house-gop-debt-ceiling-shutdown-bill-2013-10

Supposedly a graphic from Reid's office.

Dude, you could have waited until after the vote before rubbing salt in the wounds.

;p

 

[Riki]

http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-reid-boehner-house-gop-debt-ceiling-shutdown-bill-2013-10

Supposedly a graphic from Reid's office.

Dude, you could have waited until after the vote before rubbing salt in the wounds.

;p

It's never to early to kick a jack ass when he's down.

 

[Invisible_Insane]

Apparently this isn't even their final form.


http://www.nytimes.com/news/fiscal-crisis/2013/10/16/house-conservatives-blame-moderates-not-boehner/?_r=0

What, this? It's a flesh wound.

 

[BSsBrolly]

So when this passes, how soon will government employees return to work? Tomorrow? Knowing I'll get back pay, I wouldn't mind at least two more days off especially since the sequestration screwed me out of 2 weeks worth of vacation time...

 

[Crisco]

http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-reid-boehner-house-gop-debt-ceiling-shutdown-bill-2013-10

Supposedly a graphic from Reid's office.

Dude, you could have waited until after the vote before rubbing salt in the wounds.

;p

 

[ivysaur12]

Apparently this isn't even their final form.


http://www.nytimes.com/news/fiscal-crisis/2013/10/16/house-conservatives-blame-moderates-not-boehner/?_r=0

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHHA

Ahhhhhh ahahahahah

 

[Y2Kev]

http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-reid-boehner-house-gop-debt-ceiling-shutdown-bill-2013-10

Supposedly a graphic from Reid's office.

Dude, you could have waited until after the vote before rubbing salt in the wounds.

;p

Looks like the Wii u chalkboard

 

[NYCmetsfan]

oh em gee

GOP Anthem

"Doing whatever we want/This is Our House, This is our rules/We can't stop "

 

[Snake]

http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-reid-boehner-house-gop-debt-ceiling-shutdown-bill-2013-10

Supposedly a graphic from Reid's office.

Dude, you could have waited until after the vote before rubbing salt in the wounds.

;p

Actual CNN footage of Harry Reid outside the Capitol just now:

 

[TacticalFox88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3LplEjzQZU

Delicious!

 

[Sibylus]

Sean Gallagher (arstechnica): Thanks to NSA, German e-mail providers see flood of new customers- But remember, they may not be as safe as you think.

Despite laserlike focus on jobs from all sides of the spectrum all the time, someone seems to have not accounted for these ones. What's even funnier about this is that the benefits may in fact be entirely perceived, and not material. That Invisible Hand sure has some mysterious ways.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3LplEjzQZU

Delicious!

Our vets will not be used as “pawns in a political game,” says the woman posing for photo ops with veterans.

Her voice is so fucking grating jesus christ.

 

[Yamauchi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3LplEjzQZU

Delicious!

"You're an idiot" - Sums it up nicely.

 

[freenudemacusers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3LplEjzQZU

Delicious!

pretty amazing to hear that they won't use the military/vets as pawns. pretty sure we got our paycheck last week guys. gee, wonder why?

 

[Aaron Strife]

Speaker Pelosi Part 2: Opening Jan 5. 2015

Fuck. I don't want to be on this guy's side

 

[Doc Holliday]

It's over, Boehner just said that hes encouraging everyone to vote for the deal. He's going to bring the bill to the floor no matter what and he expects the Government to be open tomorrow.

 

[SpeedySwaf]

It's over, Boehner just said that hes encouraging everyone to vote for the deal. He's going to bring the bill to the floor no matter what and he expects the Government to be open tomorrow.

Would love to see the Daily Show's take on this next week. They always go on break when stuff like this happens.

 

[ridethepiggy]

I seriously hope that the Democratic leadership learned the important lesson from this which is if you stand your ground you will win more often than you will lose against these bozos.

 

[ivysaur12]

Can anyone who's good at gifs make one of them handing out candy canes in Mean Girls, but replace the caption from none for Gretchen Weiners to none for Ted Cruz? You'd have my eternal gratitude.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

From the other thread:

Man, I'm listening to Hannity stream while I'm at work here and holy shit he is on full extremist lunatic mode. He's blaming McCain and the moderate Republican "traitors" for this failure. He's calling for a new political party to be formed. He's forecasting the end of America as we know it. Businesses are going to fail. People are going to plunge into poverty due to Obamacare. President Obama is a little kid throwing a tantrum. Cruz is a savior and Christie is a weakling.


Freakin A, is he always this dramatic? He's acting like a bully who's been smacked down...

 

[Randolph Freelander]

I would not be surprised if there actually is a splinter group one way or the other and for there to be a Ross Perot-like candidate in the 2016 election.

I think the Tea Party may split off anyway, but if a "RINO" survives and wins the nomination, Tea Party will lose their minds and go off on their own. But similarly, I think business interests might decide to fund a centrist candidate. I'd rate those odds lower, but overall, the odds of 3 podiums at the debates in 2016 seems higher now than ever (to me).

 

[GhaleonEB]

Fuck. I don't want to be on this guy's side

You're not. He's throwing chum in the water.

 

[Riki]

A Republican split would be amazing. Assured Democrat victory for years to come.

From the other thread:

What a twat.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Sounds like Pelosi offered Boehner help to keep his speakership in exchange for bringing up the vote if it came down to it. Man she's a bad ass.

 

[Mac_Lane]

God, Rubio is such an annoying prick to listen to.

 

[BLACKLAC]

Sounds like Pelosi offered Boehner help to keep his speakership in exchange for bringing up the vote if it came down to it. Man she's a bad ass.

link?

 

[thepotatoman]

Sounds like Pelosi offered Boehner help to keep his speakership in exchange for bringing up the vote if it came down to it. Man she's a bad ass.

She showered his praises for this whole thing on MSNBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86L50ovlXgQ#t=29

If the Tea Party hated Boehner before, they're going to really hate him now that Pelosi is on his side. You have got to wonder if Pelosi is just trying to stir up that civil war even more so.

 

[ivysaur12]

Sounds like Pelosi offered Boehner help to keep his speakership in exchange for bringing up the vote if it came down to it. Man she's a bad ass.

She's a stud.

 

[Amir0x]

haha man I've had a shit eating grin on my face from the second this news started breaking. All the Republicans at my job were sure they were going to force Obama to capitulate >

 

[teiresias]

Sounds like Pelosi offered Boehner help to keep his speakership in exchange for bringing up the vote if it came down to it. Man she's a bad ass.

If Boehner would seriously consider NOT bringing this up for a vote and plunging the country into default all over keeping his disastrous speakership then he's a huge douche anyway.