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PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print
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There's actually countries that have tried this (India). It doesn't turn out well.
Aaron Strife
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Allow me to make a very stupid PD-esque prediction and say John Bel Edwards gets 50% in tonight's election and there is no runoff, he just wins.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Math is art unlike shit like physics so that makes sense.
Math is just the most useful and money making liberal art.
I bet the top earning Poli Sci grads are making more than the top Math grads.
Liberal Arts cover basically anything that they would have studied in the Renaissance period.
For those of you out there playing the home game version of Louisiana Election, here's the parish-by-parish returns map: http://dd.aoshq.com/results/louisiana-governor/
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I love Election Night. And I think it's going to be time soon to watch MSNBC's stream of 2012 coverage again soon. Maybe on November 8th?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRodqexUv84&list=PLkPrE1--wG8h221_dUirGBOfQQhEzRjqZ
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I love Election Night. And I think it's going to be time soon to watch MSNBC's stream of 2012 coverage again soon. Maybe on November 8th?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRodqexUv84&list=PLkPrE1--wG8h221_dUirGBOfQQhEzRjqZ
For those of you out there playing the home game version of Louisiana Election, here's the parish-by-parish returns map: http://dd.aoshq.com/results/louisiana-governor/
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I love Election Night. And I think it's going to be time soon to watch MSNBC's stream of 2012 coverage again soon. Maybe on November 8th?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRodqexUv84&list=PLkPrE1--wG8h221_dUirGBOfQQhEzRjqZ
Such a bizarre election system
Just watched the Maddow interview with Clinton. I liked the questions Maddow asked, and I liked Clinton's answers. She sounded both very personal and knowledgeable about everything, especially foreign policy. I really think that's one area she'll knock out of the park against any republican.
brainchild
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Maddow's great. Her interviews with Bernie were also great.
I need to get back to watching her. Hope most of her stuff goes online, because I don't get cable anymore. That's the big reason I stopped. Her and Chris Hayes were so damned good for a while there.
PhoenixDark
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I've never really watched network news but I used to watch Maddow clips a lot. I stopped when I realized they're all basically the same:
"I want you to look at this picture. That guy on the left, that's John Blow. You might remember John Blow from this *plays memorable clip*. That picture is from 1995. What happened in 1995? Well, you might remember this *plays another clip*. That's right, in 1995 such and such happened. And you know who was involved with that? John Blow. Fast forward to 2005. Joe Smoe was a congressman for Alabama. That year he attended an event alongside many republicans, including...John Blow *plays clip*. etc etc etc"
"I want you to look at this picture. That guy on the left, that's John Blow. You might remember John Blow from this *plays memorable clip*. That picture is from 1995. What happened in 1995? Well, you might remember this *plays another clip*. That's right, in 1995 such and such happened. And you know who was involved with that? John Blow. Fast forward to 2005. Joe Smoe was a congressman for Alabama. That year he attended an event alongside many republicans, including...John Blow *plays clip*. etc etc etc"
I don't really like watching people on TV that I agree with totally. It doesn't really force you to consider other opinion, as crazy as they sometimes are. I don't watch much cable news really, only when there is an actual breaking news story.
She is British I doubt she gives cares in the slightest.Ugh.
I was willing to stan for Fad but it seems she has poor judgement too:
Maybe Adele can endorse Bernie, let me tweet her. <3
After this past two weeks is anyone famous in public willing to support Bernie anymore? What a completely fucked cause that is now.
That might be why I liked it. I probably didn't know who John Blow was if he was prominent in 1995
Wow, you actually nailed it. lol
Fast forward to 2008 and Jon Blow just released Braid for XBLA
brainchild
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I also like to diversify my news sources. Echo chambers are boring and could potentially shelter you from reality.
I actually prefer very dry news, NPR style.
RastaMentality
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This is so fucking accurate lmfao.
QuiteWhittle
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First numbers in:
Angelle (R): 18.45% (2124 votes)
Dardenne (R): 13.89% (1599 votes)
Vitter (R): 20.5% (2361 votes)
Edwards (D): 42.71% (4918 votes)
Angelle (R): 18.45% (2124 votes)
Dardenne (R): 13.89% (1599 votes)
Vitter (R): 20.5% (2361 votes)
Edwards (D): 42.71% (4918 votes)
The maps for the election are already starting to fill in. I'm kinda shocked.
And I love Maddow's little history lessons. I'm pretty up on the latter half of the 80s, but context before that time period really helps. It's volumes better than what's on the other news channels, and her tone is often humorous.. which is right up my alley.
(You can tell that she relishes having all of the NBC News library at her disposal.)
And I love Maddow's little history lessons. I'm pretty up on the latter half of the 80s, but context before that time period really helps. It's volumes better than what's on the other news channels, and her tone is often humorous.. which is right up my alley.
(You can tell that she relishes having all of the NBC News library at her disposal.)
Brawndo Addict
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My only rebuttal is that the competing Delegate/Trustee models of representation doesn't have anything to do with the argument that there should be threshold standards before someone can earn the right to vote. We could have two countries where each model is enshrined in law, but that doesn't change the underlying calculus being done by voters: Who will best represent my interests vs Who will best represent the interests of the country? That the questions are formatted differently doesn't mean voters aren't still performing the same action, i.e., expressing their personal preference for a particular representative out of many choices. Nothing about those models leads to or demands the conclusion that voters should have a minimum level of education or information before voting; it's about how representatives should behave, not voters.
Also I wasn't being forthright regarding my full opinions on technocracy. As I alluded to in an earlier post, I do think there is a legitimate debate to be had regarding it and democracy, a nuance which was clouded by my overly acerbic and castigating language (which unfairly and dishonestly put arguments and implications onto Brainchild that he clearly wasn't arguing for). The idealized form of each is appealing for different reasons, but in practice they look quite different on the ground (China vs US). I think you inherently lose standards of human dignity and equality with technocracy which is why I don't like it, but I also can't deny that it is probably more effective at addressing long-term macro-level problems/issues. The bittersweet nature of democracy is that we all succeed or fail together.
Also I wasn't being forthright regarding my full opinions on technocracy. As I alluded to in an earlier post, I do think there is a legitimate debate to be had regarding it and democracy, a nuance which was clouded by my overly acerbic and castigating language (which unfairly and dishonestly put arguments and implications onto Brainchild that he clearly wasn't arguing for). The idealized form of each is appealing for different reasons, but in practice they look quite different on the ground (China vs US). I think you inherently lose standards of human dignity and equality with technocracy which is why I don't like it, but I also can't deny that it is probably more effective at addressing long-term macro-level problems/issues. The bittersweet nature of democracy is that we all succeed or fail together.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I don't know why she does the "watch this space" *taps on desk* thing it's weird.
Aaron Strife
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8 more percent c'mon Johnny.
Wow, you are totally spot on lol. Still love her.
Can Edwards beat Angelle? Angelle cant be too bad of a Governor since he was a former Democrat.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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That Rand is well behind Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and Carson in foreign policy is fucking terrifying. Those four other assholes would be Duyba tier.
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/658004786323824640
Aaron Strife
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Probably not. I think Vitter's his only shot. Anyone else is Generic R.
A while ago I would have said Dardenne would be the best possible Republican. But now that an actual Democrat has a chance of winning I'm willing to take the risk of a godawful Republican winning the second spot if he's the worst candidate.
That Rand is well behind Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and Carson in foreign policy is fucking terrifying. Those four other assholes would be Duyba tier.
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/658004786323824640
I don't know what it tells us. I mean Hillary Clinton got in there. Plus Lindsey Graham is not on that list so... that's ok.
QuiteWhittle
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From what I understand Dardenne is the moderate and Angelle is Jindal 2.0.
I thought Vitter was Jindal 2.0?
The best part of this is the conversation taking place just under the original tweet. God help Carson if Trump sees that shit, can you say silver bullet?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Attacking Carson's church is something I'm sure most GOP guys are looking into it, it's just going to be very difficult to do correctly. You're going to have to balance knob-polishing the hard-right base while criticizing a conservative Christian Church and while implicitly criticizing a guy who has become very popular with the far-right due to his hatred of Muslims and science and gay people and women. That will take nuance and will be risky.
Like anything that has benefited Trump has been nuanced.
QuiteWhittle
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makingmusic476
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I'm optimistic about Edwards' chances in a run off, given recent polls.
Vitter is unpopular with everyone but dedicated Republicans.
Edit: Assuming Edwards vs Vitter, of course.
Vitter is unpopular with everyone but dedicated Republicans.
Edit: Assuming Edwards vs Vitter, of course.
@RTMannJr tweeted this preview of a big runoff argument:
Made me chuckle.
I'm sure Edwards is going to counter that Vitter=Jindal with hookers. We'll get to see which force is stronger this year.
What the fuck
makingmusic476
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Well, PPP showed Edwards beating the hell out of Vitter in a run off as of 9/24:
Local pollsters had Edwards in the lead, but not by that much.
Local pollsters had Edwards in the lead, but not by that much.
Aaron Strife
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There was a recent non-PPP poll that had him winning by some comical margin, but in any case I think Vitter's diapered goose is cooked.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Having driven through rural Louisiana earlier this year, the place is so economically fucked, it'd be a miracle if they could fill up anything.
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