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PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print

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Makai

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Retromelon said:
hey makai i might have found something for you to use
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I hate on political cartoon labels, but I was sure that was Jeb until I read the Cheney label.

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OuterLimits

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Makai said:
You rooting for anyone, OuterLimits?
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Not really. I like a few of them like Rubio, and Paul. Although I agree with Paul more especially on foreign policy. The warmongering of Fiorina, Jeb, and Rubio are a tad much for me. I like Cruz saying to not bail out banks but he comes across as super fake and scripted.

Reading some news articles about the Trump tirade. News reports say while people seemed stunned at times, Trump never completely lost the crowd. They still rushed the stage for pictures and autographs. Lol. Some people commented afterwords that they agreed with him and something is off with Ben. One lady claimed she is still processing it. One guy said he liked it but it was a tad negative on Ben. Lol.

In any event, I imagine the Republicans will be going to full war with Trump now. Although they need to be careful defending Ben too much in my opinion. It might burn them later. I doubt the media is done digging.
 
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Mrs. Manky

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Did Keenan Thompson just stab the Black Power Ranger?

And why are all the people in that scene color coordinated, like the family from the Stuart Little movies?

That belt buckle is way too small. To deflect that stab counts as a miracle, because those Gifted Hands (tm) should have known where to go.

In the end, Dr. Carson is either too angry to be President, or too much of a liar (a little lying is one thing, but this is whyyoualwayslyin level lying) to be President. Also, his eyes are like that guy in 3x3 Eyes, if he ever opens them, shit'll hit the fan.
 
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Bloomberg isn't feeling the Bern in the lead up to the second debate... They have two stories up today about his "immigration problem" and his "complicated" history with Obama.

Meanwhile in Shillaryland, AP surveyed Democratic superdelegates. She has just over half of the 712 delegates, at 359 endorsing her. Sanders has 8 and O'Malley has 2. They're free to change their vote though at the convention, although for some comparative perspective, the sum of delegates from the four early voting states is 152.
 
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BertramCooper

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shinra-bansho said:
Bloomberg isn't feeling the Bern in the lead up to the second debate... They have two stories up today about his "immigration problem" and his "complicated" history with Obama.

Meanwhile in Shillaryland, AP surveyed Democratic superdelegates. She has just over half of the 712 delegates, at 359 endorsing her. Sanders has 8 and O'Malley has 2. They're free to change their vote though at the convention, although for some comparative perspective, the sum of delegates from the four early voting states is 152.
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These superdelegates will fall in line for Bernie once the good people of Iowa and New Hampshire show them what to do.

Bernie has a noble history of advocacy for superdelegates. Once these superdelegates get to know him, they'll start supporting him.
 
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He shouldn't have taken the emails off the table at the last debate. Hard to bring them back now. Clinton showed her appreciation by claiming his comments about gun control were sexist.
 
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Konka

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OuterLimits said:
He shouldn't have taken the emails off the table at the last debate. Hard to bring them back now. Clinton showed her appreciation by claiming his comments about gun control were sexist.
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That's a distortion of what she was saying. It's not that he was being intentionally sexist, it's that women have traditionally held a different place in society and when they speak up louder are often viewed as yelling. It goes back to treating women for being "hysterical".

It's similar to how Barack discussed his grandmother crossing the street when approaching a black man. It's not an active action we're talking, it's something we've been conditioned to through society.
 
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OuterLimits said:
Good God did Trump go off on Carson in his speech tonight in Iowa. Said Iowans and Americans are stupid if they believe Carson and all his stories.

Before he started talking he admitted some people won't like what he has to say and that is ok. If he loses the election, he loses. He basically said Carson is too mentally unstable to be trusted with the job. He admitted people might not like him now but he had to say it.

Republicans are going to attack Trump like crazy today. He may crash and burn after calling Iowans stupid. Lol. Although he has survived before.

With the recent revelation that Carson profited and defends his best friend who was a felon who defrauded insurance companies, I'm not sure how much longer Republicans can ignore him. Especially since he wrote in book that anyone who is caught commiting fraud in medical industry should face a Saudi Arabia treatment. 10 years in jail minimum he said. Yet he pleaded with judge for leniency for his best friend and he got no jail time.
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I have a hard time seeing this hurting Trump. He just bought himself at least a day of headlines in which the media will continually play his attacks against Carson. It is a free attack ad. Besides, this is the style that got him to the top of the polls in the first place.

My jaw is still on the floor from that amazing rant. It was masterful.
 
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BertramCooper said:
And if he starts talking about her damn emails after claiming that he's sick of hearing about her damn emails, you know that Clinton will call him out for it.

Because, y'know, Democrats sometimes actually fact check opponents during debates, unlike Republicans.
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I hope he brings them up. She will nail him to the wall if he does. There's no benefit for him bringing them up, though. Yes, he has to win over Clinton supporters, but Right Wing talking points is not the way to endear yourself to the actual members of the Democratic Party.
 
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Orbis Tabula

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shinra-bansho said:
The NYT is saying he will talk about the damn emails, but only if he's asked. Wink wink. Hint hint.
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I feel like this would be the worst time to do it. Didn't the FBI investigation just recently reveal that nothing classified was transmitted? So it was all over nothing? Maybe I'm confusing the stories here.
 
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Fully 83 percent of Democrats have a favorable impression of Clinton, compared with 54 percent for Sanders. And despite Sanders's ability to energize the Democratic base -- as shown by huge crowds turning out to see him -- Clinton's edge is almost as large on intensity; 47 percent see Clinton in a "strongly favorable" light, compared with 22 percent for Sanders. So while more than half of Democrats who like Clinton feel strongly, less than half of those who like Sanders feel that way.

Sanders continues to be much less familiar to Democrats than Clinton, but that doesn't totally account for the differing favorable ratings. In fact, despite being lesser-known, he also receives more negative reviews. One-quarter of Democrats have a negative view of the Vermont senator (25 percent), compared with 14 percent who are unfavorable toward Clinton.
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Please proceed, Senator
 
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EskimoJoe said:
I feel like this would be the worst time to do it. Didn't the FBI investigation just recently reveal that nothing classified was transmitted? So it was all over nothing? Maybe I'm confusing the stories here.
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FBI expanded their search again couple of days ago. Probably because they are under fire from GOP for shielding Clinton.
 
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BertramCooper said:
And if he starts talking about her damn emails after claiming that he's sick of hearing about her damn emails, you know that Clinton will call him out for it.

Because, y'know, Democrats sometimes actually fact check opponents during debates, unlike Republicans.
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In fact, moments after walking off stage following the Oct. 13 debate, Sanders was asked by CNN's Chris Cuomo about the "damn emails" line. Cuomo wondered if it was "a gift" for Clinton. But Sanders demurred.

"There is a process in place for the email situation that Hillary clinton is dealing with. Let it play itself out," Sanders said. "But as a nation, let us start focusing on why it is that so few have so much and so many have so little."
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He'd probably say the same thing if he is asked in the Debate, talk about more transparency in government, how everyone needs to follow the same rules and how the witch trials by the GOP have moved the focus away from the real issues facing the American public
 
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If Romney somehow got back in and was the nominee, that would be terrible for the GOP. Not as disastrous as Trump or Carson, but pretty much an admission that they're out of ideas which would likely lead to an easy 53-47 romp for the Democrats. At least on paper someone like Rubio offers something new.
 
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BertramCooper

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I definitely recommend Vox's podcast The Weeds for anyone who isn't listening to it yet.

Really interesting and fun discussion about basic income on today's episode.
 
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SL128

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Konka said:
That's a distortion of what she was saying. It's not that he was being intentionally sexist, it's that women have traditionally held a different place in society and when they speak up louder are often viewed as yelling. It goes back to treating women for being "hysterical".
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It's, in general, a good point, but if I remember correctly, Bernie was making a general statement about the entire discussion, not specifically referring to Hillary. Her making the statement specifically about Bernie's (stupid) gun control line implies he directed the comment at her, which I don't think was appropriate (although it did take too long for him to call out his campaign guy for sexism).

Regardless of how fair the context of her statement was, I really hope things don't go negative, especially from Bernie.

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Wait, we're able to import our Oblivion characters to the Republican primary?

Edit: I tried to remake Donald Trump, but gave up. Here's what I finished with, anyway.
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Maybe the GOP should try McCain/Palin again. Or maybe holographic Reagan? Or even Reagan's corpse.....I mean, the ideas are all the same....

I finally got around to watching Trump's rant. Holy hell. I really think the dude wants to win, though. I'm not sure he did at first, but now I think his ego's entirely in the way and he's either going to win or burn the whole thing down. He does not seem the type to be graceful in victory or defeat. (Although, he's never been defeated, so we wouldn't really know.) He is literally holding the entire GOP hostage to his ego. Hahahaha. I love it.
 
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That Carson story about how his sources are "better" than the White House's sources about Syria is hilarious.

That settles it for me--he's a pathological liar.
 
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B-Dubs

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adam387 said:
Maybe the GOP should try McCain/Palin again. Or maybe holographic Reagan? Or even Reagan's corpse.....I mean, the ideas are all the same....

I finally got around to watching Trump's rant. Holy hell. I really think the dude wants to win, though. I'm not sure he did at first, but now I think his ego's entirely in the way and he's either going to win or burn the whole thing down. He does not seem the type to be graceful in victory or defeat. (Although, he's never been defeated, so we wouldn't really know.) He is literally holding the entire GOP hostage to his ego. Hahahaha. I love it.
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He wouldn't have jumped in if he wasn't in it to win it. Trump would sooner burn the entire GOP to the ground and piss on it's ashes than lose this thing.
 
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RustyNails

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Plinko said:
That Carson story about how his sources are "better" than the White House's sources about Syria is hilarious.

That settles it for me--he's a pathological liar.
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He's a liar, but not for this. This is an example of a specific bubble Ben Carson lives in. He believes the federal government is filled with communist infiltrators and manchurian candidates. He believes the media is basically the propoganda outlet of the central committee. Now anyone in a position of authority that disputed The Czar's talkingpoints is speaking truth to this wild, unchecked power. He honestly believes his source is telling the truth and federal government is hiding it.
 
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Bowdz

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adam387 said:
Maybe the GOP should try McCain/Palin again. Or maybe holographic Reagan? Or even Reagan's corpse.....I mean, the ideas are all the same....

I finally got around to watching Trump's rant. Holy hell. I really think the dude wants to win, though. I'm not sure he did at first, but now I think his ego's entirely in the way and he's either going to win or burn the whole thing down. He does not seem the type to be graceful in victory or defeat. (Although, he's never been defeated, so we wouldn't really know.) He is literally holding the entire GOP hostage to his ego. Hahahaha. I love it.
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I just finished the Art of the Deal and when Trump was describing buying out the Hilton Casino in Atlantic City, he said something along the lines of "Even if it were a complete bust, I'd rather let hotel rot than to let others push me around..." The man will burn the party to the ground if he starts losing.

Also, lol at this article from Politico:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/chris-christie-trump-ben-carson-feud-215828

Politico said:
Chris Christie weighed in on the increasingly bizarre comments Donald Trump has been making about Ben Carson's past.
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Hehehe.
 
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Sahil Kapur said:
CRUZ immigration plan: build a wall, more deportations, suspend H-1B visas for 180 days, slow legal immigration, end birthright citizenship.
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Cruz running hard right on immigration. Makes Rubio look like a Dreamer.
 
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