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PoliGAF 2016 |OT| Ask us about our performance with Latinos in Nevada
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Yessssss.
Buzzfeed finally found out that Trump was lying about being against the Iraq War from the beginning:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczy...-he-supported-invading-iraq-on-the#.ruW69KR59
It doesn't matter, but he listened to all of Trump's interview on the Howard Stern show in 2002 to find this out.
NYCmetsfan
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"I had to take on Democrats" - Bernie Sanders
shinra-bansho
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I don't remember if I bitched about how ignorant voters are recently.
There are probably plenty of ignorant college-educated voters anyway.
There are probably plenty of ignorant college-educated voters anyway.
Oh like that'll do any damage.
Yoda
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For better or worse, we've stigmatized those who don't attend higher education. It's harder to get hired w/o a College level degree, it'll be harder to network for new opportunities, and if you have a degree, if it isn't from a flagship state school, highly ranked private college or an ivy, chances are it's still abysmally hard to land a decent job/launch a career. It's in the governments interest to have a highly skilled workforce.
Macho Madness
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Of course it won't. But it has been found.
AnotherNils
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So now people on both sides will like him for whatever opinion suits them.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Basically.
Veritigo_X
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Whenever I think of Fall Out Boy now I think of that girl in Ferguson that was protecting the line of heavily armored cops from the protesters.
Yoda
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"Yeah, I guess" on Howard Stern is such a concrete endorsement thou!
Gonna point out that picking "electable" candidates hasn't worked since 2000 for either side (Kerry in 04, McCain in 08 and Hilary in '08, Romney in '12). I am seeing shades of Dean vs Kerry in '04, including the "the people I hire may not know how to run a campaign, and the head of the DNC is an idiot" bit.
Gonna repeat my point about the fact that Sanders is even sniffing Clinton is the single greatest indictment of Clinton's poor campaigning, end of story.
I want Clinton to win, but I need her to give me a little more confidence that she knows what the hell she is doing campaign wise. (also, DWS being absolutely useless amplifies it all)
Black Mamba
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Jeb! - See, Donald supported the failed invasion..uh I mean..he fuck.
hoho, haha
not like it will make a difference to his supporters anyways, but good to see regardless - good ammo for the general
This is what I expect the attack to look like :lol
Whoever tries to hit him with it is going to look like a big fat mess.
There's enough ammo that this one can stay in the clip and it'll still be overkill.
Source?! No WAY!
“Are you for invading Iraq?” Howard Stern asked him, and Trump answered, “Yeah, I guess so.”
Sounds like he didn't even think about it. I know Howard's position was pick a random Middle East country and bomb it.
Black Mamba
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yeeeesssss
Da fuq is this.
Won't matter in the primary, would be useful for whoever the Dem nom is.
yeeeesssss
Holy shit, that third one! :LOLOLOLOL
We're already almost to the point where you need a masters. Hell in some industries you can't get shit without it.
NYCmetsfan
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I don't think "electability" had much to do with any of those. The GOP primaries worked for decades like Royal succession- it was McCain/Romney's "turn". Hillary is in that vein, which is why there's a lot of natural pushback from the Dems, who usually succeed with fresh faces. (Obama was clearly more electable in '08.) Kerry's nomination in '04 confused me to no end- and I say this as a Kerry fan- I thought he was pretty obviously a weak candidate and was shocked to see him win the nomination.
Black Mamba
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I'm more annoyed by Bernie's pronunciation of "rationing." WTF, Bernie!?
Officerrob
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I use the VA in Salem Virginia, it took 3 weeks to see a doctor. He ordered an MRI for my back, it took 6 more weeks to get me in for that.
NYCmetsfan
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This bernie is exactually why going from private care that's popular with 80% to single payers is so hard. You have to ration.
Macho Madness
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One thing I've noticed is that he's not really treating this like a town hall. Not being personal, or coming off friendly. He's stumping at a town hall, shouting his answers at people instead of to them. I knew something looked off.
neurosisxeno
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shinra-bansho
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Yes. In which case, does it become obligatory that society also provide for post-graduate education, and that people who simply don't have the aptitude or desire to enter such study should need to. This is really a more overarching mentality problem.
They've been licking his balls from day 1. Cenk is probably masturbating to every one of Sanders stump answers.
Why doesn't Bernie mention the Korean orphan scholarship he ran on for office in highschool and then helped to implement it even when he lost
Or voting to defend educational funds for prisoners?
Or his advocacy against imperalism in latin America/his trips there and other thing's he's done to defend the rights of workers?
Or any of the other positive thing's he's done in his career.
Why is he so bad at selling himself?
Most of his supporters are people frustrated with the way they perceive democratic party has been treating then/the way their values have changed, and want to see a shift in how it operates, politics isn't a sport, it's supposed to be a vehicle for the will of the people to get what need's to be done done, and this vitrol against him for being an independent as if the democrats are infallible is just so strange to me.
The Democrats aren't above reproach, and you act as though his whole career all he's done is shit on the democrats and insult when that's clearly false.
Never mind the fact that he's already said he'll be getting behind Hilary if he loses the primary.
The number of Bernie supporters who'd want to see president Trump or so minute that it's not remotely worth discussion especially when you could say the same about Clinton supporters with Mccain in 08.
Also even if you disagree there are legitimate reasons for Bernie to have voted against that immigration reform bill, and he has a record of supporting immigrants regardless.
Do you go at Hilary for her support of bills that have leaned Republican like you're going at Bernie right now?
Or voting to defend educational funds for prisoners?
Or his advocacy against imperalism in latin America/his trips there and other thing's he's done to defend the rights of workers?
Or any of the other positive thing's he's done in his career.
Why is he so bad at selling himself?
Yes, Bernie is an evil man for not playing party politics.
Most of his supporters are people frustrated with the way they perceive democratic party has been treating then/the way their values have changed, and want to see a shift in how it operates, politics isn't a sport, it's supposed to be a vehicle for the will of the people to get what need's to be done done, and this vitrol against him for being an independent as if the democrats are infallible is just so strange to me.
The Democrats aren't above reproach, and you act as though his whole career all he's done is shit on the democrats and insult when that's clearly false.
Never mind the fact that he's already said he'll be getting behind Hilary if he loses the primary.
The number of Bernie supporters who'd want to see president Trump or so minute that it's not remotely worth discussion especially when you could say the same about Clinton supporters with Mccain in 08.
Also even if you disagree there are legitimate reasons for Bernie to have voted against that immigration reform bill, and he has a record of supporting immigrants regardless.
Do you go at Hilary for her support of bills that have leaned Republican like you're going at Bernie right now?
NYCmetsfan
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It is a sport and the winning team enacts policy and does its will.
Officerrob
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That's it? Yeesh, not Bernie's best performance
And_Gignac
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And he keeps going up in the polls. Kind of evident how his stump answers are working, no matter how tired those who follow politics closely are of them.
RustyNails
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Where are you guys watching the debate? Any livestream?
exactly.
Macho Madness
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All TYT is concerned with is that he gave the best answers even if he didn't deliver them the best. Or something.
NYCmetsfan
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@samsteinhp 3m3 minutes ago
Thought Sanders did really well tonight and under some pretty tough town hall questioning
This is already happening in non-trade type of degrees.
Yeah, but note that the pendulum might have swung too hard the other way.
I don't think it was McCain's turn as much as he would give the GOP some space away from GWB due to the 2000 fight, and that McCain was generally considered a moderate prior to the 2008 primaries. Obama ended up being more electable, but during the primary, HRC definitely used the "electable" bit, since Obama was a black guy. Romney was the same way, they ended up going for the most moderate GOP candidate they could find to try to be more "electable". I think firing up the base to actually vote is becoming quickly as effective of a way to go for electoral votes as is appealing to the center.
I guess I'm still frustrated that HRC hasn't ended this yet, her campaign is showing all the weaknesses it did in 08, and she's still hasn't figured out the authenticity thing yet. Does anyone think HRC would be beating Warren if it were Warren instead of Sanders?
shinra-bansho
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Old people excited, young people dgaf. #optics
does he work for wold blitzer? DEAD HEAT am I right?
RustyNails
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nvm, link posted in the OT.
Has disastermouse commented on Hillary's clothes yet?
Has disastermouse commented on Hillary's clothes yet?
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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If you choose to utilize a democratic process to select a candidate, people have a right to take advantage of it and try their chances if they think they have something to offer. It's not as though Hillary hasn't taken shots at him, so what is he supposed to do, just "take it"?
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