Obama cared about foreign policy. He was on the Foreign Relations committee while on the Senate. Hitting Hillary's left flank on foreign policy was a centerpiece of his campaign. He was miles ahead of where Bernie is now in 2007.
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Agreed.
It's important to remember that anytime Obama was deficient on a given issue, he would study his ass off to improve his understanding of it. Remember the GE financial crisis in 08. Both McCain and Obama went to Washington to meet with the White House, but Obama, at least according to Game Change, was spending 1-2 hours per night talking to Hank Paulson to understand the crisis, he was talking to Ben Bernanke almost daily, he was talking to various wall street CEOs (gasp), and he was getting what Halperin called an accelerated PhD in Economics and Finance from his advisors everyday.
Bernie's lack of expertise on a given issue is not the problem. No candidate has a complete knowledge of every subject. What is concerning is the notion that Bernie has not made any substantive improvement on foreign policy in the course of this primary. The desire to learn and to shore up weaknesses is important.
Poodlestrike
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Mmm... I can sorta see it, but only when I'm looking for it. It's only got the vertical arms.
NY Times: " has been the target of more attack ads than any other candidate — more than $20 million worth since the first week in December"
1) like most 1st term senators, right?
2) comparable to Obama 2007/8, right?
3 & 4 are catering to his base, right?
Four_Chamber
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Morning Consult national poll
Quinnipiac seems to be a huge outlier.
Quinnipiac seems to be a huge outlier.
Roland_Gunner
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Your daily reminder that Ted Cruz is a truly horrible person who should not be in any sort of elected office:
According to Beardsley, the two were having an intellectual debate about abortion one day, when she disclosed that her mother had once ended a pregnancy. I remember telling him [that] my mother had two children, they really couldnt afford to have another child, they really would have struggled. And it was a very difficult, painful decision for my mother. At that point, she said, he became vicious and made it personal, eventually telling her, in his loving way, that my mother was going to hell and was a whore.
http://theslot.jezebel.com/heres-what-happens-when-you-try-and-track-down-a-ted-cr-1752337625
According to Beardsley, the two were having an intellectual debate about abortion one day, when she disclosed that her mother had once ended a pregnancy. I remember telling him [that] my mother had two children, they really couldnt afford to have another child, they really would have struggled. And it was a very difficult, painful decision for my mother. At that point, she said, he became vicious and made it personal, eventually telling her, in his loving way, that my mother was going to hell and was a whore.
http://theslot.jezebel.com/heres-what-happens-when-you-try-and-track-down-a-ted-cr-1752337625
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I wish one of John McCain's younger staffers would just beat the shit out of Cruz. Would be so nice to see.
Plinko
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That favorability poll was general election voters from across the country. Attack ads have NOT been running across the country--only in primary states, as far as I know.
All of them cater to the base. That was what I was saying. It will be a huge problem in the general election if properly targeted.
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
My guess is McCain would do that himself.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Rubio's comments so far in the primary:
"I am against rape exceptions for abortions."
"I will appoint Supreme Court Justices that will annul all gay marriages."
"I will cut the capital gains tax to zero."
He hasn't been attacked on any of these stances very much, but they're all poison in a general election.
"I am against rape exceptions for abortions."
"I will appoint Supreme Court Justices that will annul all gay marriages."
"I will cut the capital gains tax to zero."
He hasn't been attacked on any of these stances very much, but they're all poison in a general election.
Yeah, I was just going against a general statement, that he has not been attacked. Which he was, and thus far he was able to weather it.
Look, even Christie tumbles even more since he notched his rethoric up a notch against him.
I´m not so sure. He´s two decades younger than whoever gets the Dem nomination, so you could maybe attack him on inexperience.
But otherwise he´s a minority candidate, so you have to be very careful how you go after him.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Bingo. And there are more debates left where he will assuredly be attacked more than before, so expect more of this.
Even if he went to someone for help or input who would be willing to even help his campaign at this point? It's looking like he's burned bridges with a number of the ones higher up lately.
neurosisxeno
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If Sanders gets the nom Democrats will forget about a lot of things when it comes time to staff the White House. Lets be realistic here.
Poodlestrike
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Some of them will and some of them won't. If the furor surrounding Cruz has taught me anything, it's that politics is a much more personal game than I'd previously assumed.
Captain Pants
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I saw the same thing, although it reminded me more of a Basque Lauburu symbol.
Skiptastic
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He's got the Romney curse. Even if you would believe him to be more moderate than the others, he's got to say crazy things to get far in the primary, which is going to kill him in the general.
theprodigy
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I don't think Democrats hate Sanders on a personal level.
Poodlestrike
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Some of them are going to take his jabs at the "establishment" personally, that's just the way things go. That's all I meant.
On the the other hand, he´s basically a (CNN rumored) Romney endorsement away from winning NH, and effectively forcing all other moderates out. Which would mean a three way fight with Trump and Cruz, allowing him to take more moderate positions pretty early.
Some of them will rankle at Bernie being an independent all these years and then this year becoming a Democrat to run for president while slamming 'establishment' democrats.
Skiptastic
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He better get on that shit ASAP then.
I still don't understand why the party allows non-representative states like Iowa and New Hampshire at the front of it's primary season. You'd think major states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida would be where you want to start so you have a candidate that represents more of the "mainstream" of the country.
I'm sure there is an explanation and I'm too tired and lazy to find it myself, but that seems silly to me.
RustyNails
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Rubio still has that sheen on him. So far no one has been able to peel it. Trump and Jeb may have scratched it here and there, and Mgyn Kelly did the best she could on the immigration bill. But by and large it is intact.
Christie is just useless and Kasich's potted plant gambit should disqualify him by now.
I think only Ted Cruz has the knack to peel that Rubio sheen off. He really got under Rubio's skin in one of the debates. Bring that fire and brimstone.
Christie is just useless and Kasich's potted plant gambit should disqualify him by now.
I think only Ted Cruz has the knack to peel that Rubio sheen off. He really got under Rubio's skin in one of the debates. Bring that fire and brimstone.
As far as I understood that CNN piece, Romney doesn´t want to throw his network of donors and campainers behind someone that might lose out. I guess it depends on Saturdays debate, if he throws in with Rubio on Sunday/Monday.
Yeah, Saturdays debate might become an all-against-one affair.
Countdown to Trump tweeting this out.
A Human Becoming
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Haiku'd that for for you.
Mini documentary on the Dean Scream I liked.
Obama and Rubio kind of have a similar narrative:
Five Thirty Eight said:
OrangeGrayBlue
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I hope, for Bernie's sake, that he comes up with some more detailed ideas for the debate on the 11th.
They have been this whole primary. I'm curious about their screen.
And_Gignac
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Quinnipac was probably the most accurate Iowa pollster, even more so than Selzer, if we consider that Sanders most probably won the popular vote.
Calling them bad pollsters is disingenuous when they did a better job than even Selzer.
Calling them bad pollsters is disingenuous when they did a better job than even Selzer.
Jack Remington
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He did, but it happened very quickly. He went from about 84c pre-Iowa to high 60s immediately after, then settled around 70 and slowly increasing since then. You must have bought in too late.
Ignatz Mouse
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I really did.
CLOCKEDT
Wait wait.. I just learned what "dragged" was. Is this really a thing that the kids say? "Clocked?!"
ugaboga232
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Isn't the important point not the raw numbers but the relative change from the previous poll assuming the methodology didn't change?
And_Gignac
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He wasnt that embarrasing. The substance of his message was the correct one, he just fails at raw knowledge (he can improve, I hope?) and delivery. The media didnt even care. Look at the headlines everywhere, no biggie.
And the public even less, it seems
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...han-one/?postshare=7951454647411281&tid=ss_tw
Theres no "why bernie sucks so much at foreign policy?" search question, sadly.
more like BERNEDT
The last Quinnipiac Iowa poll had Sanders up by 3, so at the very least they were equal to selzer. On the republican side they had it almost exactly like Selzer.
Of course national polls are a whole different thing. But Quinnipiac did well in Iowa. Certainly much better than ppp, who had Clinton up by 8.
Because people already know he's a single-issue candidate who's out of his league on every other topic.
That's actually decent for Sanders,
Also I'm guessing Morning Consult is just ex-primary voters and Quinnipiac is likely voters and that's where the huge difference comes from.
Abinash117
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Lol, I guess people searching a candidate they don't know about means they won. Also Bernie almost always get more searches or whatever jump some type of favorably on the social media.
Rafa=FedKilla
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I'm very anxious now after reading about the volatility of NH voters and the snow storm early next week.....
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I really don't know what the solution in Afghanistan is though... It's been invaded and at war near continuously since 1978, the Taliban are evil and will wipe away all progress that women have made in the country, but the current government seems to be such a failure that the Taliban have gotten back 30% of the country.
Manmademan
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Quinnipiac as a pollster is fine, but even good pollsters have outlier results now and then. That's a very VERY large drop with no real corresponding event to cause it. Carson had a similarly huge nationwide drop, but you could easily point to the paris and san bernadino attacks exposing him on foreign policy for this.
Given that morning consult doesn't show any similar drop, I would tag this one as an outlier as well until we see a pollster show up with results that corroborate it.
And_Gignac
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Democratic voters probably not but word is that his "progressive" stuff the last week or so has been rankling fellow representatives
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