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[Hammer24]

I don't think that would be legal, although a primary isn't the same as a regular campaign. But, no, they have to vote in one or the other.

Would it even be possible to track if someone did? I'm not sure what the procedures are.

 

[User1608]

Thanks to Hillary I know what shadow banking is now. Wtf. That's... Creepy for some reason and of course concerning.

Can someone PLEASE explain Marco Rubio's idiotic comment about Obama visiting a mosque as being "divisive"? It's driving me nuts. It is, by all objective measures, the OPPOSITE of divisive. Exact opposite. So what the fuck is he talking about?

Rubio is a dog whistling fucker.

 

[A Human Becoming]

Can independents in NH vote in both primaries?

Just one.

If we hadn't already had two Game of Thrones themed threads I could totally break New Hampshire up into the different regions (with Mass being Dorne because it's not as white).

 

[User 463088]

Would it even be possible to track if someone did? I'm not sure what the procedures are.

Ya, I'm sure it'd be easily traceable. You have to go to your polling place, and I assume they have a register of voters like we do here. Every state is totally different, so I don't know what systems they have in place in NH to check registration and whatever.

In Florida, we had massive rolls that would list all the registered voters in that district. We'd check them off the list as they came in.

 

[gaugebozo]

no you shouldn't. Not when you made a GOAT post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=194305278

This was a joke post, right? "File not found"

 

[Coriolanus]

no you shouldn't. Not when you made a GOAT post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=194305278

Your link is bad and you should feel bad.

 

[Hammer24]

Ya, I'm sure it'd be easily traceable. You have to go to your polling place, and I assume they have a register of voters like we do here. Every state is totally different, so I don't know what systems they have in place in NH to check registration and whatever.

In Florida, we had massive rolls that would list all the registered voters in that district. We'd check them off the list as they came in.

Ah, I wasn't aware the voting in the primaries is being held in the same polling place for both parties. Thanks!

 

[Valhelm]

Can someone PLEASE explain Marco Rubio's idiotic comment about Obama visiting a mosque as being "divisive"? It's driving me nuts. It is, by all objective measures, the OPPOSITE of divisive. Exact opposite. So what the fuck is he talking about?

Racists who already hate Obama will hate him even more

 

[Roland_Gunner]

To be fair does anyone really know how to solve systemic risk?

Generally reducing leverage by as much as possible is the best way to reduce risk. Its not perfect but the less leverage the more losses a bank can absorb before becoming at risk of collapsing.

 

[ivysaur12]

How many people in this thread have said this at one point? lol

They're like cleavage, you know you're not supposed to look but do anyway and get slapped.

ugh.

no you shouldn't. Not when you made a GOAT post.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=194305278&postcount=1751

thank you this is better than anything i've ever written in my life

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't get why people are getting on Obama for going to a service for the religion of which he is a part.

 

[Hammer24]

I don't get why people are getting on Obama for going to a service for the religion of which he is a part.

He should have shown his true lizard skin for the full double whammy.

 

[campfireweekend]

To be fair does anyone really know how to solve systemic risk?

There are actually quite a few that I learned in my behavioral and financial economics classes!

One way to limit the failure of banks would be to impose an alternate FDIC scheme, wherein in one bank fails, the other banks are legally obligated to ensure that all deposits of the failed bank are paid.

This compels them financially to make sure their competitors are not being overly risky with their investments.

On that same note, a tax on speculation does not lead to reduced bubble characteristics as Sanders believes it would, as this paper echoes.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=665107

 

[Poodlestrike]

I really don't know what the solution in Afghanistan is though... It's been invaded and at war near continuously since 1978, the Taliban are evil and will wipe away all progress that women have made in the country, but the current government seems to be such a failure that the Taliban have gotten back 30% of the country.

Ultimately, we're going to have to stay there until th region stabilizes. Probably at least 30 years, at a guess.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Ultimately, we're going to have to stay there until th region stabilizes. Probably at least 30 years, at a guess.

The Afghan war: 1979 to 2046

What an era of history... :/

 

[Fenderputty]

One way to limit the failure of banks would be to impose an alternate FDIC scheme, wherein in one bank fails, the other banks are legally obligated to ensure that all deposits of the failed bank are paid.

This compels them financially to make sure their competitors are not being overly risky with their investments.

I like this idea. I feel like the suggestion would make heads explode though. Pardon my ignorance though, but would this affect the shadow banking system since those entities aren't really taking deposits like normal banks?

 

[B-Dubs]

I like this idea. I feel like the suggestion would make heads explode though.

So do I, it's one of those simple ideas that should probably be done but won't be for obvious reasons.

I wish someone would come out and say something like this though.

 

[East Lake]

There are actually quite a few that I learned in my behavioral and financial economics classes!

One way to limit the failure of banks would be to impose an alternate FDIC scheme, wherein in one bank fails, the other banks are legally obligated to ensure that all deposits of the failed bank are paid.

This compels them financially to make sure their competitors are not being overly risky with their investments.

On that same note, a tax on speculation does not lead to reduced bubble characteristics as Sanders believes it would, as this paper echoes.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=665107

I'll check out the paper in a bit. Even if you think Bernie's naive that does sound a bit like Bernie-esque solution though, maybe not in the technical details but in the plausibility of passing it.

Also what if all the banks in this group started to fail in a short time span?

 

[campfireweekend]

I like this idea. I feel like the suggestion would make heads explode though. Pardon my ignorance though, but would this affect the shadow banking system since those entities aren't really taking deposits like normal banks?

You could change it to an obligation of debts owed.

The point is to collectivize both risk and leverage, so that you can compel them financially, the only thing which truly incentivizes people, to act more safely.

 

[B-Dubs]

I'll check out the paper in a bit. Even if you think Bernie's naive that does sound a bit like Bernie-esque solution though, maybe not in the technical details but in the plausibility of passing it.

Also what if all the banks in this group started to fail in a short time span?

The idea would be (it seems to me anyway) that it would cause them to police each other in addition to the feds policing them. They'd probably go a lot harder on each other given the amounts of money everyone would have on the line so it'd likely never get to that point.

 

[Iolo]

Bernie Sanders’s Kibbutz Found. Surprise: It’s Socialist.

The movement, whose Hebrew name translates to “The Young Guard,” was a socialist, Zionist secular Jewish youth group founded in 1913 in Galicia, Austria-Hungary, and shared the name of a workers’ party in pre-1948 Palestine. The original 1990 article was titled “The First Socialist” and said that after spending time on the kibbutz with his wife at that time, Mr. Sanders seems to have lost his connection “to Israel, Zionism and Judaism,” Haaretz reported this week. Mr. Sanders has long described himself as a democratic socialist.

[...]

Mr. Ely said that on Sha’ar Ha’amakim, “you care about your brother or your neighbor or whoever it is.” The kibbutz was founded in Romania in 1929 and established in pre-state Israel in 1935. It saw the Soviet Union as a model, and often flew the red flag at outdoor events. Volunteers like Mr. Sanders would have internalized a political imperative to improve the lot of other, Mr. Ely said.

interesting?

 

[campfireweekend]

I'll check out the paper in a bit. Even if you think Bernie's naive that does sound a bit like Bernie-esque solution though, maybe not in the technical details but in the plausibility of passing it.

Also what if all the banks in this group started to fail in a short time span?

Yo, you said we don't know how to get rid of systemic risk.

I'm offering you an idea which makes the most economic sense, not with the most chance of becoming reality.

I don't disagree with Bernie because what he says will never pass. I disagree with Bernie because I think he is fundamentally taking the wrong approach on a lot of issues.

In your second case I believe the government should bail them out. That's not a popular answer, but the TARP program was profitable. The US made a profit.

After a bailout would actually be the perfect time to impose this new scheme, as the banks would be unable to say no.

I do believe that such a scheme would prevent a situation where all the banks fail at the same time though. Not every recession is 2009 or the great depression. This would be a much better scheme in the vast majority of situations.

 

[And_Gignac]

Found the catch in the Q poll:

Their demos:

White 70%
Black 13%
Hispanic 9%
Other/Undesigned/NA 8%

Actual demos for democratic voters (going by gallup):
NH White 60%
NH Black 22%
Hispanic 13%
Asian 2%
Other/NA/UNDG 3%



I am still not sure if thats enough to explain the whole swing, considering their last poll probably had similar demographics. But I do doubt any other poll will show this +2 thing. More like we will see more polls at +10 or below (if theres a real post Iowa/NH push for Sanders).

 

[B-Dubs]

Found the catch in the Q poll:

Their demos:

White 70%
Black 13%
Hispanic 9%
Other/Undesigned/NA 8%

Actual demos for democratic voters (going by gallup):
NH White 60%
NH Black 22%
Hispanic 13%
Asian 2%
Other/NA/UNDG 3%



I am still not sure if thats enough to explain the whole swing, considering their last poll had similar demographics. But I do doubt any other poll will show this +2 thing. More like we will see more polls at +10 or below (if theres a real post Iowa/NH push for Sanders).

That is way too fucking white a sample to be accurate. Did they release across men/women as well?

 

[NeoXChaos]

Kyle Kondik ‏@kkondik 53m53 minutes ago
Obama won blacks in SC (55% of electorate) 78-19 in 2008. HRC probably hopes to replicate that or come close

.

 

[ivysaur12]

Looks like after careful review by the Iowa Democratic Party... Hillary's margin of state level delegates increases by a tiny bit:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tween-clinton-sanders-shifts-errors/79877898/

 

[A Human Becoming]

Would it even be possible to track if someone did? I'm not sure what the procedures are.

I've never voted in the primaries before, but if it's anything like the general election, at the polling stations at the town you're registered in you give your name, they check for you on the list and then ask for your ID before you're given a ballot. I suppose if someone could vote, get their name erased or manage to not be checked to begin with, they might be able to vote in both. No idea what processes are in place to ensure these actions are not counted.

The Afghan war: 1979 to 2046

What an era of history... :/

That's such a fucked situation Hillary couldn't even give a great answer. She really tried too, but the reality is not what anyone wants to hear. I'm not sure if I can even blame Bush since the Afghanistan invasion had merit, except they had no real plan of ending or maintaining the situation.

I'm not sure anyone knows when the Afghan government will get strong enough to no longer need assistance.

 

[NeoXChaos]

Looks like after careful review by the Iowa Democratic Party... Hillary's margin of state level delegates increases by a tiny bit:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...tween-clinton-sanders-shifts-errors/79877898/

I read it. Don't see an increase.

 

[ivysaur12]

I read it. Don't see an increase.

I read that completely wrong because I haven't drank enough coffee today.

At least three caucusgoers there (including Dan McCue and Zack Stewart) and the Grinnell College newspaper reported that Sanders won 19 county delegates and Clinton 7, but party officials said the final tally was Sanders 18 and Clinton 8.

None of it will matter in the end because a lot of it will be he said she said.

 

[And_Gignac]

That is way too fucking white a sample to be accurate. Did they release across men/women as well?

They have Democrats at 58% women 42% men with their Dem/Dems Leaning.

But wait, I made a mistake. That Quinnipaic sample is their overall registered voters sample, not their Dem/Dem Leaning sample. They dont have a racial breakdown for D/DL.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Found the catch in the Q poll:

Their demos:

White 70%
Black 13%
Hispanic 9%
Other/Undesigned/NA 8%

Actual demos for democratic voters (going by gallup):
NH White 60%
NH Black 22%
Hispanic 13%
Asian 2%
Other/NA/UNDG 3%



I am still not sure if thats enough to explain the whole swing, considering their last poll probably had similar demographics. But I do doubt any other poll will show this +2 thing. More like we will see more polls at +10 or below (if theres a real post Iowa/NH push for Sanders).

Seems like they skewed it to what a national general electorate would look like, not a Democratic primary.

edit: nvm

 

[East Lake]

Yo, you said we don't know how to get rid of systemic risk.

I'm offering you an idea which makes the most economic sense, not with the most chance of becoming reality.

I don't disagree with Bernie because what he says will never pass. I disagree with Bernie because I think he is fundamentally taking the wrong approach on a lot of issues.

In your second case I believe the government should bail them out. That's not a popular answer, but the TARP program was profitable. The US made a profit.

After a bailout would actually be the perfect time to impose this new scheme, as the banks would be unable to say no.

I do believe that such a scheme would prevent a situation where all the banks fail at the same time though. Not every recession is 2009 or the great depression. This would be a much better scheme in the vast majority of situations.

I don't disagree with the bailout, but I don't necessarily think that type of scheme might be doable after a crisis. That's hard to tell anyway but wall st does have plenty of political power. What I'm getting at is that your solution might also not solve systemic risk.

 

[campfireweekend]

I don't disagree with the bailout, but I don't necessarily think that type of scheme might be doable after a crisis. That's hard to tell anyway but wall st does have plenty of political power. What I'm getting at is that your solution might also not solve systemic risk.

It would certainly greatly reduce a component of it.

The business cycle can't really be solved.

 

[ugaboga232]

Yo, you said we don't know how to get rid of systemic risk.

I'm offering you an idea which makes the most economic sense, not with the most chance of becoming reality.

I don't disagree with Bernie because what he says will never pass. I disagree with Bernie because I think he is fundamentally taking the wrong approach on a lot of issues.

In your second case I believe the government should bail them out. That's not a popular answer, but the TARP program was profitable. The US made a profit.

After a bailout would actually be the perfect time to impose this new scheme, as the banks would be unable to say no.

I do believe that such a scheme would prevent a situation where all the banks fail at the same time though. Not every recession is 2009 or the great depression. This would be a much better scheme in the vast majority of situations.

How does that solve the crazy amount of power the financial sector has? I do like the idea, leverage greed for the common good (i would argue there are other incentives but sadly we are socialized to link money to success to dopamine and then its all ogre).

 

[B-Dubs]

That's such a fucked situation Hillary couldn't even give a great answer. She really tried too, but the reality is not what anyone wants to hear. I'm not sure if I can even blame Bush since the Afghanistan invasion had merit, except they had no real plan of ending or maintaining the situation.

I'm not sure anyone knows when the Afghan government will get strong enough to no longer need assistance.

That whole region is fucked for the foreseeable future. All that can be done for now is plug the holes and try to make sure things are going in the right direction. We can't ignore it since it spills over borders, though I wish we could, but we're basically stuck dealing with it.

How does that solve the crazy amount of power the financial sector has? I do like the idea, leverage greed for the common good (i would argue there are other incentives but sadly we are socialized to link money to success to dopamine and then its all ogre).

It's just a way to deal with the systemic risk and to keep them all on the straight and narrow in terms of not fucking up the economy.

 

[ugaboga232]

That whole region is fucked for the foreseeable future. All that can be done for now is plug the holes and try to make sure things are going in the right direction. We can't ignore it since it spills over borders, though I wish we could, but we're basically stuck dealing with it.



It's just a way to deal with the systemic risk and to keep them all on the straight and narrow in terms of not fucking up the economy.

Good point. As for middle east/afghanistan, I really think economic means may be the best way (at least for nonsyria countries) to increase education/standard of living which would help the world a lot. I think heavy investments into these countries could pay dividends.

 

[A Human Becoming]

That whole region is fucked for the foreseeable future. All that can be done for now is plug the holes and try to make sure things are going in the right direction. We can't ignore it since it spills over borders, though I wish we could, but we're basically stuck dealing with it.

I wish someone with real insight knew how to deal with the situation beyond plugging the holes, but maybe it's not possible.

 

[B-Dubs]

Good point. As for middle east/afghanistan, I really think economic means may be the best way (at least for nonsyria countries) to increase education/standard of living which would help the world a lot. I think heavy investments into these countries could pay dividends.

That'll only do so much without political stability in the region. So long as there's political instability in the region we'll keep seeing civil wars spill over everyone's borders and those investments won't be able to really take root.

Like in Syria, if we stop the civil war it'll just happen again in 20 years if Assad stays in power due to the instability. Hence the US wanting to get rid of him, better to get it done now and try to stabilize that part of the region instead of kicking the can.

I wish someone with real insight knew how to deal with the situation beyond plugging the holes, but maybe it's not possible.

The thing is, that's not up to us. If it was it would be an easy fix. That's gonna have to come down to the region players seeing the writing on the wall and being willing to do what's needed--from stepping down, allowing votes, not treating people like second class citizens.

 

[campfireweekend]

How does that solve the crazy amount of power the financial sector has? I do like the idea, leverage greed for the common good (i would argue there are other incentives but sadly we are socialized to link money to success to dopamine and then its all ogre).

I wasn't asked how to solve the confluence of money and politics, man.

One thing at a time.

 

[ugaboga232]

I wasn't asked how to solve the confluence of money and politics, man.

One thing at a time.

solve everything pls so NIH has more grant money for me kthxbai

 

[campfireweekend]

Good point. As for middle east/afghanistan, I really think economic means may be the best way (at least for nonsyria countries) to increase education/standard of living which would help the world a lot. I think heavy investments into these countries could pay dividends.

Heavy investments into countries with extractive political and economic institutions does not foster much growth.

You guys really need to read WHY Nations Fail.

Spoiler

It's really good.

 

[campfireweekend]

solve everything pls so NIH has more grant money for me kthxbai

An auction market for kidneys!

Wait...

 

[ugaboga232]

Heavy investments into countries with extractive political and economic institutions does not foster much growth.

You guys really need to read WHY Nations Fail.

Spoiler

It's really good.

My completely unread and unsupported opinions are obviously better than famous books (also why you making fun of our country of heritage it already sucks enough ;_; and dont get me started on organ transplants in US).

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ben-carson-ted-cruz-iowa-tactics-218834 Carson: Cruz taking Benghazi approach to Iowa situation


I love when Cruz gets hit with his own talking points.

 

[East Lake]

It would certainly greatly reduce a component of it.

The business cycle can't really be solved.

That's hard to know ahead of time though isn't it? It could be as useless as glass steagall for the next crisis if it comes through a different channel.

 

[PBY]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ben-carson-ted-cruz-iowa-tactics-218834 Carson: Cruz taking Benghazi approach to Iowa situation


I love when Cruz gets hit with his own talking points.

This doesn't make any goddamn sense but holy shit this is the best thing i've seen in a while. So beautiful

 

[B-Dubs]

That's hard to know ahead of time though isn't it? It could be as useless as glass steagall for the next crisis if it comes through a different channel.

The idea is that you can't stop the next crisis, that'd take the ability to tell the future, but you can make it so that when the next business cycle ends and the shit hits the fan that things don't get out of hand and it's more like a small bump in the road than a drive off a cliff.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

This doesn't make any goddamn sense but holy shit this is the best thing i've seen in a while. So beautiful

"You Benghazi'd me."-Buzzfeed's upcoming video of what if Democrats spoke like Republicans.

 

[PBY]

Also love that Carson is turning his flight to FL into some kind of positive bootstraps thing

"Well, see, that's not the way I grew up. I grew to preserve what I have. I don't just throw something in the garbage and buy a new suit. Maybe some people grew up that way," he mused. "I don't, and that's not the way I would run the government either."


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ben-carson-florida-trip-clothes-218820#ixzz3zKCStG7r

 

[Gotchaye]

Can someone PLEASE explain Marco Rubio's idiotic comment about Obama visiting a mosque as being "divisive"? It's driving me nuts. It is, by all objective measures, the OPPOSITE of divisive. Exact opposite. So what the fuck is he talking about?

So, it's a little silly to say that what Rubio is objecting to is the idea that we ought not to discriminate against Muslims. This is how I've seen some people characterizing it. I think obviously the idea here is that by making a point of visiting a mosque and especially of saying that Muslims "are part of America too" and similar, Obama is implying that Republicans don't like Muslims. Rubio is saying that the visit is about convincing people that only Democrats aren't anti-Muslim bigots. This gets complicated because at the same time he needs to make clear that he's not some kind of Muslim sympathizer, so it becomes this argument that it's not so much that it's not true that Muslims are discriminated against but that this sort of sympathy risks us not paying sufficient attention to radical Islam (and anyway it's not that bad, etc.).

Edit: This is sort of the same kind of thing you'd get if you asked a Republican to explain why black people don't like them. If they avoid the obvious Obamaphone trap they're going to start talking about how Democrats have tricked black people into thinking that Republicans don't care about them, and so when Democrats start talking about civil rights issues it's "divisive" because actually these aren't problems and are just used to keep black people on the "Democratic plantation". It's basically the reverse of "What's the Matter with Kansas?"