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HylianTom

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Would rather see Kasich finish lower. The 1-2 being Cruz for the entire primary would be the best case scenario for the Democrats.

Agree fully. Kasich is too dangerous, and I don't want him to get any kind of foothold. I'd love for Christie to pull-off a skin-of-the-teeth second place ahead of the others, just so that it looks like Trump is towering above the rabble.
 
Can you retake it? That'll look pretty bad. Are you good with math? Meaning have you taken linear algebra and real analysis?

Those classes are super important for grad school.

Here's the source I use to gauge whether I'm ready.

Why does econ need topology???? What black magic are you economists doing behind our backs...
 
Would rather see Kasich finish lower. The 1-2 being Cruz for the entire primary would be the best case scenario for the Democrats.

No, I think it'd be okay for Kasich to finish in 2nd. Keeping a different Establishment candidate in 2nd depending on the primary is a win/win for us. They may be calling for someone to drop out, but it'd be hard to really decide who should be the one to leave if they're all jockeying for 2nd/3rd each contest.
 

East Lake

Member
And agrees with me! Yay, solidarity of economists.


Cool, do so next time. Or now. I'll read them then respond with relevant literature that I know. That's what an informed argument is.

I didn't know you were a young Republican though. What arguments are you gonna be making that demand citation from the Chicago school? We aren't arguing about the veracity of keynesianism, nor are we disputing whether there are multiplier effects from a tax cut. So?
Are you reading what I'm writing. An informed argument doesn't start with "here's a paper, btw I took more classes than you did." That happen a lot at Berkeley? Maybe I'm missing something.
 

Bowdz

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Would rather see Kasich finish lower. The 1-2 being Cruz for the entire primary would be the best case scenario for the Democrats.

He is the biggest legitimate threat in the GE, but his infrastructure is basically non existent and he will further split donors for the establishment candidates if he does better than Rubio in the primary.
 

NeoXChaos

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Kasich has no path or infrastructure after NH. A 2nd place finish for him is not worrying at all. In fact if he stays in till OH denying Rubio those delegates its a win for Trump.
 
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Deleted member 231381

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Also, ivy, I apologize. Clinton is picking up a bounce. I'm picking up the trend in my own aggregate so I can't really deny it. ;_; There isn't one nationally, but in NH I make it she's picked up about 3 points since Iowa while Sanders has lost 2, with undecided dropping 1 to make the other.

My aggregate performed pretty well in Iowa and I now also have some relevant data from this year for pollster accuracy which is fun. If you guys go back and check I actually beat 38's forecast in accuracy, woohoo! Right now for NH I'm predicting Sanders 55.6, Clinton 38.7, Undecided 6.7. That's pretty middle of the road, I guess. If undecideds splits equally, Sanders would just about scrape the 58.1% mark that I think is a good target, but it's definitely not performing as well as I'd hope and Clinton's trajectory is worrying. I don't think she'll win, but she could conceivably force Sanders to 12-12 on delegates with a good performance, which would be dreadful (obviously great for you guys). I definitely think Sanders has ground to make up if he wants to make a statement.
 
Kasich has no path or infrastructure after NH. A 2nd place finish for him is not worrying at all. In fact if he stays in till OH denying Rubio those delegates its a win for Trump.

Exactly. There is no where else outside NH where he's going to play well long enough to be a threat. If the GOP was smart, then yes. But their primary voters have shown, time and time again, they're not.
 

Makai

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Jeb on his mom - "She's not as great as everyone things she is."

Said she was lucky there wasn't a child abuse hotline when he was a kid.
 

CCS

Banned
Also, ivy, I apologize. Clinton is picking up a bounce. I'm picking up the trend in my own aggregate so I can't really deny it. ;_; There isn't one nationally, but in NH I make it she's picked up about 3 points since Iowa while Sanders has lost 2, with undecided dropping 1 to make the other.

My aggregate performed pretty well in Iowa and I now also have some relevant data from this year for pollster accuracy which is fun. If you guys go back and check I actually beat 38's forecast in accuracy, woohoo! Right now for NH I'm predicting Sanders 55.6, Clinton 38.7, Undecided 6.7. That's pretty middle of the road, I guess. If undecideds splits equally, Sanders would just about scrape the 58.1% mark that I think is a good target, but it's definitely not performing as well as I'd hope and Clinton's trajectory is worrying. I don't think she'll win, but she could conceivably force Sanders to 12-12 on delegates with a good performance, which would be dreadful (obviously great for you guys). I definitely think Sanders has ground to make up if he wants to make a statement.

Is Crapple a go then? :p
 
Are you reading what I'm writing. An informed argument doesn't start with "here's a paper, btw I took more classes than you did." That happen a lot at Berkeley? Maybe I'm missing something.

I think you are, because that was like the beginning of the argument.

I made a claim, which apparently upset tmarg, so he made a claim. I provided evidence for my claim, asking him to reciprocate and stop lecturing someone that is more learned on the subject than he is.

He responded, no evidence. Disastermouse joined in, again didn't provide evidence, called economists basically liars, questioned the integrity of the CBO when they're not a mouthpiece for Republicans (well at least they weren't in 2010!) They ask if there is something obvious that they're missing.

I detail exactly what they're missing in a long post, with 3 citations to back up what I said, again I'm providing the only evidence throughout this whole debate.

Someone calls me a Republican, says who need evidence when we have 100 year of experience.

Then you say I need to make better arguments.

And yes, generally any informed debate is made up of making claims and then providing citations. I'd hope that's how it is done at most universities.
 
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Crab needs to bring out his mother to stump for his polls.

CCS is my mother, can confirm.

EDIT: Actually, CCS, which college are/were you? I don't think I ever asked. I was Balliol.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I think you are, because that was like the beginning of the argument.

I made a claim, which apparently upset tmarg, so he made a claim. I provided evidence for my claim, asking him to reciprocate and stop lecturing someone that is more learned on the subject than he is.

He responded, no evidence. Disastermouse joined in, again didn't provide evidence, called economists basically liars, questioned the integrity of the CBO when they're not a mouthpiece for Republicans (well at least they weren't in 2010!) They ask if there is something obvious that they're missing.

I detail exactly what they're missing in a long post, with 3 citations to back up what I said, again I'm providing the only evidence throughout this whole debate.

Someone calls me a Republican, says who need evidence when we have 100 year of experience.

Then you say I need to make better arguments.

And yes, generally any informed debate is made up of making claims and then providing citations. I'd hope that's how it is done at most universities.

That's usually how it's done in here when we actually get to talk policy. The healthcare debate was good times.
 

CCS

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CCS is my mother, can confirm.

Can confirm, am large female crustacean.

EDIT: In response to your edit, Jesus, the most entertainingly named of all the colleges. In my last year there. Balliol is a good college, Balliol Tuesdays were a staple of my first year :p
 

ivysaur12

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Also, ivy, I apologize. Clinton is picking up a bounce. I'm picking up the trend in my own aggregate so I can't really deny it. ;_; There isn't one nationally, but in NH I make it she's picked up about 3 points since Iowa while Sanders has lost 2, with undecided dropping 1 to make the other.

My aggregate performed pretty well in Iowa and I now also have some relevant data from this year for pollster accuracy which is fun. If you guys go back and check I actually beat 38's forecast in accuracy, woohoo! Right now for NH I'm predicting Sanders 55.6, Clinton 38.7, Undecided 6.7. That's pretty middle of the road, I guess. If undecideds splits equally, Sanders would just about scrape the 58.1% mark that I think is a good target, but it's definitely not performing as well as I'd hope and Clinton's trajectory is worrying. I don't think she'll win, but she could conceivably force Sanders to 12-12 on delegates with a good performance, which would be dreadful (obviously great for you guys). I definitely think Sanders has ground to make up if he wants to make a statement.

It's okay, this is what they made hugs for.
 
I was not aware that Danny Glover, who was awesome in Predator 2 (see photo below) and of course, the Lethal Weapon movies, is a left-wing political activist, so his Bernie endorsement is cool, man, and obviously very welcome:

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In March 2010, Glover supported 375 Union workers in Ohio by calling upon all actors at the 2010 Academy Awards to boycott Hugo Boss suits following announcement of Hugo Boss's decision to close a manufacturing plant in Ohio after a proposed pay decrease from $13 to $8.30 an hour was rejected by the Workers United Union.
 
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thepotatoman

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http://www.vox.com/2016/2/7/10930522/david-frum-marco-rubio

Frum's tweets about Rubio and his gaffe are interesting. He is right--Marco's favorability is high because, as we were saying a few days ago, he isn't that well known. Last night really, really hurt that.

All good points, but I think it's missing the biggest reason why this is so damaging. Rubio is popular not because republicans think he would make the best president, but because he has the best chance to beat Hillary. A mistake like this makes Republicans start to wonder if he can make it through the general election without other similarly embarrassing mistakes.

The strategy is to pick the candidate that your opponent is most afraid of, and I think democrats got a lot less scared about Rubio after last night.
 

FiggyCal

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Daniel B·;194502581 said:
I was not aware that Danny Glover, who was awesome in Predator 2 (see photo below) and of course, the Lethal Weapon movies, is a left-wing political activist, so his Bernie endorsement is cool, man, and obviously very welcome:

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Danny is an interesting guy. He also does Haitian theater. He wanted to make a movie about Toussain Louverture, ut that apparently fell through.
 

Gruco

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Any advice for a guy looking to get a graduate degree in econ, but got a d+ in stats?

Yeah. It really fucked up my gpa too.

It's actually a passing grade at my school. So I'm actually taking stats 2 and econometrics this semester despite the D+. But I'll definitely look into retaking it over the summer or something.

I'm pretty bad at math. I also got a C+ in calculus which I figure isn't that important.

I'll be honest, and I don't want to be too negative, but that's a pretty rough application. I've hard passed on ones with much better math grades. If you want to go to a top 20 program, it's going to be hard. Retake both calc and stats if at all possible. If not, you need to take more advanced courses, kill them, and have your recs tackle the question head on.

Why does econ need topology???? What black magic are you economists doing behind our backs...
Analysis on econ applications is mostly a signal. Programs want someone who will be able to survive the first year and first round of prelims. Dedicated theorists do actually use it, but most empirical people probably won't.
 

East Lake

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I think you are, because that was like the beginning of the argument.

I made a claim, which apparently upset tmarg, so he made a claim. I provided evidence for my claim, asking him to reciprocate and stop lecturing someone that is more learned on the subject than he is.

He responded, no evidence. Disastermouse joined in, again didn't provide evidence, called economists basically liars, questioned the integrity of the CBO when they're not a mouthpiece for Republicans (well at least they weren't in 2010!) They ask if there is something obvious that they're missing.

I detail exactly what they're missing in a long post, with 3 citations to back up what I said, again I'm providing the only evidence throughout this whole debate.

Someone calls me a Republican, says who need evidence when we have 100 year of experience.

Then you say I need to make better arguments.

And yes, generally any informed debate is made up of making claims and then providing citations. I'd hope that's how it is done at most universities.
Yes, you need to make better arguments. Generally ones that don't start by touting your academic record, which is a lot more self-absorbed and irrational coming from a trained economist than a layman on a forum being skeptical of the CBO.
 
Yes, you need to make better arguments. Generally ones that don't start by touting your academic record, which is a lot more self-absorbed and irrational coming from a trained economist than a layman on a forum.

In other words:

Climate change is not happening because snow is still falling. I saw it, the experts honestly don't know what they're talking about.
 
Yes, you need to make better arguments. Generally ones that don't start by touting your academic record, which is a lot more self-absorbed and irrational coming from a trained economist than a layman on a forum being skeptical of the CBO.

Can you go after campfire's actually arguments instead of campfire himself? Because this argument is boring as fuck.
 
Yes, you need to make better arguments. Generally ones that don't start by touting your academic record, which is a lot more self-absorbed and irrational coming from a trained economist than a layman on a forum being skeptical of the CBO.
Touting an academic record that was directly relevant to the topic at hand.

What's your deal? Why don't you call them out if you're so set on fostering better discussion? The only reason I even mentioned Berkeley is because we're super liberal, and someone called me a Republican, and like no conservative economists come out of Berkeley.

And for the last time, it did not start with me touting my credentials. I had hoped by laying out that time line that'd you finally understand at least that.
 

Armaros

Member
Yes, you need to make better arguments. Generally ones that don't start by touting your academic record, which is a lot more self-absorbed and irrational coming from a trained economist than a layman on a forum being skeptical of the CBO.

You have talked about his education far more then he has in context of the arguments.

You haven't posted anything that isn't just attacking his credentials.

And you accuse him of needing a better arguement.
 
I want to cut payroll taxes a decent bit for people making under $50,000 (and people over 60) while raising land taxes to pay for that cut. Probably would cause a decent bit of people to join the labor force and help use land more efficiently (therefore causing more economic growth) and be more equitable.
 
I want to cut payroll taxes a decent bit for people making under $50,000 (and people over 60) while raising land taxes to pay for that cut. Probably would cause a decent bit of people to join the labor force and help use land more efficiently (therefore causing more economic growth) and be more equitable.

There are some confounding factors pertaining to how much the land tax would affect the hiring decisions of employers, thereby inducing them to offer a lower wage, and said wage!>reservation wage in its ability to bring people into the labor force.

But otherwise, definitely worth exploring.
 

Gruco

Banned
Maybe Rubio just really likes Final Fantasy and is one of those guys that debuffs bosses over and over and over again?

That implies that Rubio has HU-MAN interests and enjoys leisure activities. As well all know, his analytics team and coders have determined that "enjoys football" is the best, most market-tested personality subroutine.
 
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