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Al Gore!!
Nixon went to Alaska in October 60'
RustyNails
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So do we know how many more emails does Wikileaks have? I feel like Goldman Sachs stuff was the money shot and there's not many bombs left.
A Link to the Past
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I kind of wish someone would hack Trump at the last minute and release some horribly damning shit. Not in the sense that I think it'd be good, but in the sense that it'd be nice.
Joe Shlabotnik
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whyamihere
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I think that a Hillary rally in Salt Lake City, Phoenix, or Atlanta would get her best turnout numbers, and generate a ton of press. I expect she'll do one before this election is over.
I'd love to see a demographic breakdown of people who hate Hillary. My mom and MiL are both 70 and hate her; won't vote for her. "She's a liar and a thief." Those are the exact words from both of them. When I ask why she's a thief, they have no answer. I have no idea what the thief part is referring to.
I lived through the Ken Starr impeachment blah blah blah too, but I have a totally different view of her.
Edit: So I'm pretty open about how I manipulate my relatives so I planted the idea in my MiL's head that Hillary looks a lot like my mom - which she does. It's impossible to hate my mom.
Yeah... I'm horrible. >
I lived through the Ken Starr impeachment blah blah blah too, but I have a totally different view of her.
Edit: So I'm pretty open about how I manipulate my relatives so I planted the idea in my MiL's head that Hillary looks a lot like my mom - which she does. It's impossible to hate my mom.
Yeah... I'm horrible. >
aspiegamer
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I do really hope they find the people responsible for the bombing ASAP because we're going to have an endless argument about Democrats vs conspiracy theories until then.
In fact, since I'm a terrible person I'll add to that. That's not a D-style calling card that I've ever heard of, especially with the odd painted threat. Actually, Democrats are usually too lazy for violence (not that that's bad). On the other hand, this is a heavily D area near UNC and the races in NC haven't been extremely heated. A short-term burst of anger doesn't have a political affiliation. So! Suspects: Everybody. Codeword "animals" from Trump is probably just as dangerous as the actual attack, given thankfully no one was injured.
Has anyone known of any other attacks on GOP property like this? Anywhere? Or this tag ever used as a threat before?
In fact, since I'm a terrible person I'll add to that. That's not a D-style calling card that I've ever heard of, especially with the odd painted threat. Actually, Democrats are usually too lazy for violence (not that that's bad). On the other hand, this is a heavily D area near UNC and the races in NC haven't been extremely heated. A short-term burst of anger doesn't have a political affiliation. So! Suspects: Everybody. Codeword "animals" from Trump is probably just as dangerous as the actual attack, given thankfully no one was injured.
Has anyone known of any other attacks on GOP property like this? Anywhere? Or this tag ever used as a threat before?
He'd be perfect, actually. Climate change is impacting AK at a rate far faster than the rest of the US.
I want him destroyed and the GOP along with it.
whyamihere
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It'd be pretty poetic that when the Russians are trying to rig the election for Trump, Hillary wins Alaska.
gutter_trash
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could Trump's Russia stance be a reason for Alaskans not trusting him?
lyrick
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So this was graffitid on the NC GOP office
Could be just me but it's way too forward. Anyway, we will have security cam footage if someone stayed there to paint that.
It's unusual for people who are anti-racism to use a swastika in their messaging, but as we've seen in these threads it's also unusual for trump supporters to be able to correctly draw a swastika (instead of some weird backwards 'Z' thing).
Decent letter Spacing though... although there's multiple 'A' styles in use (compare the 'A' in Nazi to the 'A' in Republican) and the 'N's don't look consistent either..
Carpe Carnim
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She should invite Beyonce and let her do the entirety of Lemonade
Carpe Carnim
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I wouldn't be surprised if a college student did it. They went through the trouble of ending the statement with a period.
nature boy
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Unless there's a credible poll showing her ahead, it makes no sense to invest in Alaska with so many other states in play.
Hell she shouldn't spend time or money in Utah, nevermind Alaska. Can't believe people think she has a chance in Utah lol.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Not even half way done.
I want a blow out. Invest away.
Bam Bam Baklava
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They should only be spending money on the states that Obama won in 2012 and 2008. That's all it takes to win, the rest is fluff.
Everyone knows Alaska is the Democrat holy grail
Felix Lighter
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If a Democrat is responsible for that fire bombing, I'll be so utterly disappointed. With the dangerous rhetoric coming from Trump and then something like this on top of it. If it was an anti-Republican attack, they couldn't have done anything worse for their cause, aside from actually killing someone and they ratcheted up the potential for more violence.
whyamihere
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No, this is wrong. Ultimately, there are states that Obama won in 08 and 12 that are trending red, and it's important to build up infrastructure in states like Arizona, Georgia, Texas, Montana, and Alaska that could prove useful in 2020/2024. Especially if Montana gets an extra EV for the 2024 election.
I agree.
nature boy
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Might as well burn money.
No, it's solid R. And the Democratic party today is not the Dem party that got him elected.
AntraxSuicide
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You'll never expand the Democratic map doing this. In 2020, you'll be telling people to stop spending money on any state that Hillary didn't win.
I say spend away. You got the cash on hand, start throwing it around. Send Gore up there. I asked before, and I don't think someone answered (this was like 2 OTs ago): what are the politics like in Alaska? I'm basically asking is it super focused on Anchorage, and maybe stuff like what industries are more politically active and prevalent. If a Dem did try to win there, what's the win condition? E.G. in Georgia, it's about driving up your vote share in the Atlanta suburbs. What do you target in Alaska?
whyamihere
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Also, like, it's quite likely at this point that the Democratic nominee in 2024 probably won't spend any time in Iowa or Ohio.
Basically, it's flipping Anchorage and finding 40,000 more Democrats and driving up turnout of Inuits.
Basically, it's flipping Anchorage and finding 40,000 more Democrats and driving up turnout of Inuits.
AntraxSuicide
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I think this is definitely true for Iowa. That's a state that's been the opposite of Virginia, and I don't see that changing. Need to replace it in the blue column, and I'd love to do that with either AZ or GA.
yeah. How are our states MS, LA, AL going to become the next GA, VA, NC without investment. There is a large AA population and emerging White millennial population that will one day if they don't move for greener job pastures make us purple when the older gen dies.
Is that likely? I found this map from January 2015:
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(source: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/updated-2020-reapportionment-projections/)
We need Texas to go blue by 2024. Of course, who knows what the political parties will be like by then.
Figured. The idealist in me wants Hillary to campaign in solid red states, but I get that we're not in 20 point blowout territory yet. I wonder how Arkansans would react to Bill telling them "I know you're better than this" or something along those lines.
Is that likely? I found this map from January 2015:
(source: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/updated-2020-reapportionment-projections/)
We need Texas to go blue by 2024. Of course, who knows what the political parties will be like by then.
Figured. The idealist in me wants Hillary to campaign in solid red states, but I get that we're not in 20 point blowout territory yet. I wonder how Arkansans would react to Bill telling them "I know you're better than this" or something along those lines.
A lot of the people who voted for Bill in 92 and 96 were from the Silent Generation and are mostly dead at this point. Whose left in the state likely now are R's who have voted Reagan on up. They make up a majority of the vote now. That goes for all the Southern states he won except for MS and AL which he did not win probably due to a much more polarizing electorate.
Also MS and AL were states first to rapidly become Republican starting in 1980 that TN, LA, KY, AR, WV etc didn't catch up until the 90's and recently
Well the only difference is, she's going to be at the debate soon which counts and then some, plus I'm sure she'll make an appearance shortly after that. I do understand though, it's not the best strategy to disappear after you have a good round of polling, as we saw post convention. However the difference is people are really starting to make up their minds and Donald's campaign is basically imploding. She doesn't really have to put herself out there a lot like she should have after the convention, not to mention her surrogates are really doing a good job for her, and I'm sure we're going to see more of her in the coming days after the debate.
whyamihere
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Is that likely? I found this map from January 2015:
(source: http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/updated-2020-reapportionment-projections/)
We need Texas to go blue by 2024. Of course, who knows what the political parties will be like by then.
Figured. The idealist in me wants Hillary to campaign in solid red states, but I get that we're not in 20 point blowout territory yet. I wonder how Arkansans would react to Bill telling them "I know you're better than this" or something along those lines.
Potentially. MT-AL has the most votes-per-CD of any CD in the country, and they're always on the precipice of getting another CD. I believe it's projected to have 1,076,000 people in 2020. That'll be close. The state thinks they're getting another CD, but we'll see.
whyamihere
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Here's what UNC's Carolina Demography Center thinks will happen in 2020:
HanShotFirst
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Eh, Alaska is only 3 EVs, its really only worth campaigning there for the down ballot and this year I seriously doubt Murkowski or Youing are going to lose. I'd rather Democrats focus on GOTV and voter registration in a state like that so they can build a base for future elections.
And Utah isn't close because of a trend towards Democrats, its because Trump is incredibly disliked there. Next election I imagine Utah will reset back to 2008-2012 numbers.
I do think Hilary Clinton should campaign hard in Georgia, Arizona, and South Carolina as those states are trending blue and a good effort now makes that transition quicker. Basically focus on states where efforts now will be felt into the future.
And Utah isn't close because of a trend towards Democrats, its because Trump is incredibly disliked there. Next election I imagine Utah will reset back to 2008-2012 numbers.
I do think Hilary Clinton should campaign hard in Georgia, Arizona, and South Carolina as those states are trending blue and a good effort now makes that transition quicker. Basically focus on states where efforts now will be felt into the future.
I don't agree, the Midwestern states have a certain type of candidate they like and neither Hillary nor Trump is it. They like plainspoken folksy people with a sunny disposition, which is why Obama did so well with them, especially against Romney. I think Tim Kaine could do well there.
Aw. This was nice to read
I'm excited about voting tomorrow! I still need to read up on some of the ballot issues though so I'm not a terrible clueless voter
whyamihere
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Young actually could lose because he's so fucking crazy. I believe he has an opponent that the DCCC really likes, but I haven't seen any polling there. If we take back the House, it's through seats like AK-AL.
Aaron Strife
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I wonder if we'd score a Democrat representative out of Montana having two districts. I have no idea what the geographical breakdown is like in MT, maybe someone could look at how the districts were drawn before and see how the halves voted in recent elections.
Basileus777
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Montana doesn't make sense demographically as one of the states they should be targeting.
People actually trust Clinton on terrorism more than Trump.
whyamihere
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The west in general is becoming more Democratic-leaning and there's an argument that the rise of Missoula/Western MT as more of an political force in the state makes it a bit tantalizing.
j_k_redtail
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I'm not sure anyone seriously entertained the thought that Hillary could win Utah. It was more so that the race there could end up close enough to raise a serious eyebrow.
whyamihere
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On the Native American vote in AZ:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ona_us_5802f2dfe4b06e0475954a71?3vkzcuxdh1tt9
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ona_us_5802f2dfe4b06e0475954a71?3vkzcuxdh1tt9
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