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[tuffy]

As I recall, Trump had no path without Florida, but an unlikely path even with Florida. She doesn't need a big win because it's not like Trump's supporters were going to change their minds even if he got blown out, but a win by any means will be a big deal.

 

[Sanjuro]

Even if Clinton ekes out a narrow win, I can't see her being a two-term president.

I mean, that really isn't a priority.

 

[Brawndo Addict]

I need some advice. If Trump does win,should I pull monies out of my vanguard account?

No arguably you should put more money in at the bottom when the market over-reacts and crashes. You're betting on the long term market trend being up and since our global economy is capitalist we have bigger problems than Trump if that stops being true.

 

[streetsahead123]

This is a literal nightmare

 

[SlimySnake]

Cbs saying Michigan whites, college educated whites are voting for trump in big numbers. I don't get it

 

[metalslimer]

Florida is starting to look gone at this point

 

[Doc Holliday]

This fact that I'm worrying during this fucking election is an emberassment to this country. Wtf really

 

[Brinbe]

At least she should take VA... but what the fuck at MI. They were right to be confident about it and having that late rally in Grand Rapids.

Dems totally took it for granted.

 

[Plinko]

As I recall, Trump had no path without Florida, but an unlikely path even with Florida. She doesn't need a big win because it's not like Trump's supporters were going to change their minds even if he got blown out, but a win by any means will be a big deal.

But the Midwest is FULL of angry white rural voters.

 

[geomon]

I cannot believe Florida went for Trump. I can't wait to get the fuck out of this state.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

As I recall, Trump had no path without Florida, but an unlikely path even with Florida. She doesn't need a big win because it's not like Trump's supporters were going to change their minds even if he got blown out, but a win by any means will be a big deal.

With Michigan, Trump very much has a clear path. And it's not looking as good as it should in MI right now.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Yeah Florida is gone. Shit man, I'm nervous as hell

 

[Hazmat]

VA is still looking safe, I think. I started getting nervous about FL after the senate race got called so quickly for Rubio, and I think it's gone.

 

[Coriolanus]

I need some advice. If Trump does win,should I pull monies out of my vanguard account?

Well, markets gonna ridoncu-crash, so you miiiight wanna try to offload that asap. Lose the window and you might as well ride the storm until Something Tragic/Great happens.

إن شاء الله

 

[Crocodile]

Again, Republicans eviscerated election infrastructure In Democratic areas in the wake of the 2010 elections. So you had huge lines even when turnout was normal. Extra turnout is hard to capitalize on because there's no capacity to take it in and the lines get even longer.

Conversely, in rural areas that had their polling infrastructure preserved or expanded, there were never any lines so they had tons of excess capacity to take advantage of dramatically increased turnout.

Yeah, the fuckery involved with voting rights in this country is a shame and pisses me the fuck off >_<

Oh, they do. Clinton has more support in some traditionally red states but not enough to flip, Trump has more support in traditionally blue states with large rural populations.

Ok that kind of makes sense

 

[Oblivion]

Jesus fucking Christ...what the hell happened?

 

[TheAbsolution]

Damnit Florida. FUCK

 

[Voysa Reezun]

Bluntly worry about 2020 then.

I understand. I should just focus on making it through tonight. I'm sorry.

 

[Tranqueris]

People need to stop using that nyt upshot site and saying that Trump has taken something. Makes it sound like news organizations are calling the state for him when it's still going.

 

[Already Torn]

Jesus fucking Christ...what the hell happened?

White people

 

[Makai]

 

[Ihyll]

I'm at work

Is the election over? Does she still have a shot if she wins VA?

 

[Link]

As I recall, Trump had no path without Florida, but an unlikely path even with Florida. She doesn't need a big win because it's not like Trump's supporters were going to change their minds even if he got blown out, but a win by any means will be a big deal.

Underestimating the white vote in Florida doesn't bode well for elsewhere.

 

[RustyNails]

No arguably you should put more money in at the bottom when the market over-reacts and crashes. You're betting on the long term market trend being up and since our global economy is capitalist we have bigger problems than Trump if that stops being true.

Thanks.

 

[Barzul]

Hidden Trump vote was real bruh. This is with no ground game.

 

[TheFatOne]

How much is left in the dem areas in FL?

 

[Kusagari]

There's no more margin for error.

Either WI, MI, PA, CO and NV hold or we lose.

 

[streetsahead123]

Even if Clinton ekes out a narrow win, I can't see her being a two-term president.

I never thought she'd be a two-term president anyways. I just needed a democrat for the supreme court.

 

[Averon]

I mean, that really isn't a priority.

True, but it just make me dread the two upcoming elections (2018, 2020) that much more.

 

[kmag]

As I recall, Trump had no path without Florida, but an unlikely path even with Florida. She doesn't need a big win because it's not like Trump's supporters were going to change their minds even if he got blown out, but a win by any means will be a big deal.

It's what the vote in Florida in the rural areas represents which is the issue rather than the actual state. He's mobilised the white rural vote in really unprecedented numbers.

 

[Diablos]

This fact that I'm worrying during this fucking election is an emberassment to this country. Wtf really

Seriously. McCain and Romney didn't have a chance. But TRUMP? I just... have no words.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

As I recall, Trump had no path without Florida, but an unlikely path even with Florida. She doesn't need a big win because it's not like Trump's supporters were going to change their minds even if he got blown out, but a win by any means will be a big deal.

A blowout win for HIllary though meant that the GOP had to look at their damn tactics. If Hillary barely wins, then you know what happens? The Senate will keep blocking progress. The Republicans will keep peddling their hate because it works. And this country will remain a bipolar pile of trash that can't make up it's damn mind.

 

[kirblar]

VA down to 5K with 86%. Of the 326 remaining precincts 66 are mega margins for Clinton.

 

[Qwerty710710]

Relax she's going to win Virginia.

 

[Officerrob]

Dow futures down 500 points

 

[DrForester]

I can't believe this night has gone so badly.

 

[sphagnum]

There's a plausible but unlikely map where she could win even if she loses MI if she takes VA back and also claims AZ.

 

[Black Mamba]

So, at the presidential level, GOTV and money might not really matter much...

 

[tuffy]

With Michigan, Trump very much has a clear path. And it's not looking as good as it should in MI right now.

But is it winnable? What are our options?

 

[Already Torn]

I'm at work

Is the election over? Does she still have a shot if she wins VA?

Yeah, but then there's the goddamn midwest

 

[Brinbe]

Forget about VA. Worry about MI. She NEEDS IT.

 

[kirblar]

Down 2.4K w/ 87% in VA.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Trump is officially half way to presidency.

 

[Plinko]

There's a plausible but unlikely map where she could win even if she loses MI if she takes VA back and also claims AZ.

Angry rural white voters are out en force. She isn't taking Arizona.

 

[Tamanon]

This is playing out like most elections that I've seen. Nothing has gone crazy. Clinton should still easily have this.

 

[Drakeon]

I'm at work

Is the election over? Does she still have a shot if she wins VA?

It depends on the Midwest if we can hold on to VA and PA. Apparently MI and to a lesser extent, WI, are vulnerable.

 

[Jackson50]

Trump is winning Wayne County (Detroit) with 8% reporting. Obama won Wayne 72-26 in 2012. Oakland County is the same margin (8%) though with 46% reporting.

 

[Sanjuro]

59% Trump.

Well...

 

[sphagnum]

Relax she's going to win Virginia.

It doesnt matter if she loses MI. That's the state to watch now.

NH is now tied, which is good BC Trump had been in the lead.

 

[Paches]

So, at the presidential level, GOTV and money might not really matter much...

Insane amounts of free press helps (for Trump).