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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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nature boy
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That's just not true, yes the Dems have a far superior targeting and analytics, but the GOP/Trump campaign also does some similar stuff.
You don't need a GOTV operation, apparently. Just spew a whole bunch of racist and xenophobic bullshit, and white people come running.
maquiladora
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Bill Mitchell twitter feed is like looking at an alternative universe. Going to be hilarious tomorrow night when reality hits.
Compare to her is pretty much zero not to mention all the horror reports about it.
Basileus777
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McMuffin is getting more than 10 votes in 3 states.
IggyChooChoo
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I believe this is what John Maynard Keynes would describe as "countervailing powers."
balladofwindfishes
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Is the Trump campaign informing people of when to vote, where to vote, deadlines for registration, what to bring, and resources for looking into downballot candidates?
I haven't heard about them doing any of that, but I know Hillary's done that.
I haven't heard about them doing any of that, but I know Hillary's done that.
Fragamemnon
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The Trump campaign isn't doing crap for GOTV and have passed the buck to state and national parties, who can't afford to not do anything because of their own races.
It's classic Trump-he thinks of this as transactional and zero-sum: why pay for work that you can force someone else to do for free? More money to dump into his horrible digital campaign firm.
It's classic Trump-he thinks of this as transactional and zero-sum: why pay for work that you can force someone else to do for free? More money to dump into his horrible digital campaign firm.
aspiegamer
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Fair enough. That was a bit of an exaggeration. Clinton campaign has apparently directly contacted 45M voters since September? Holy crap, including 6M+ doors and 8M+ calls this past weekend. That's how you get a lot of first-time and uncommon voters. Xenophobic excitement and a buzzing internet base gets out your vote on Reddit, I guess, though Russians and young teenage boys can't vote.
Unrelated comment: The CNN story of being pinned down by ISIS for a day in tight combat is the most intense news piece I've seen this year.
plagiarize
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And far too many democrats claim it's just the white people down on their luck facing disproportionately hard times when compared to the rest of the country, when we know that's bullshit.
It's either racism, sexism, thinking Clinton is the anti-Christ, or all of the above.
All are terrible reasons to vote for anyone.
i saw this one guy with a trump halloween mask recently. considering it's after halloween, that must mean a lot of masks were sold. he was on tv in front of a lot of people saying a bunch of crazy shit.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I haven't paid attention to Fox News in years... what does it mean, even from just a programming point of view, that they are showing this map?
Fox can't even get a proper screenshot for their site.
balladofwindfishes
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Fox thinks NC is as safe for Hillary as Texas is for Trump?
That's pretty crazy
That's pretty crazy
nature boy
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Yeah it's nowhere near the Clinton campaign, but it's also not just rallies and social media.
They do analytics and some engagement, but they clearly lack the organization, direction and experience, not to mention Trump always makes the final call based on "instinct".
plagiarize
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Well put it this way, the day before the 2012 elections Fox were predicting Romney. In some cases by a landslide. Today they're showing Clinton with enough electoral college votes without any of the toss up states.
Lessons learned maybe?
Lord Frieza
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They know, and we know that they know
Dubbedinenglish
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Then there is the gulf in fundraising and the lack of surrogates to dispatch.
Walking my dog in Pompano Beach, I've seen several HRC GOTV operatives knocking on doors.
TheAbsolution
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Hey, I know this conversation is long over but,
Atlanta is calling.
We've got great food, great people, and so many trees!
Outdoor Miner
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Are you guys still running a Discord for tomorrow? Is the main form of communication in there voice or text? I wanna join you guys but can't do voice since I'll be at a gathering all night.
For the poll aggregation nerds, Sam posted a good article about his methodologies.
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/06/is-99-a-reasonable-probability/#more-18522
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/11/06/is-99-a-reasonable-probability/#more-18522
Basileus777
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I hope we get some shitty Nevada poll today that has Trump up so Nevada goes back red on 538.
It's just a text chatroom.
they're not going to win this campaign by reacting to bad news days later. the ev damage has been done. clinton's prepped for election day voting as well, or did they not expect that?
Fragamemnon
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No, it sucks. Way better to live in a deep blue state that will fight for your values rather than have every election be some titanic battle between basic reason and racist madness played out at every level of government.
(Happy to be moving to Seattle in the next few months from NC).
edit: aleppo gets 2.5% nationwide, Stein gets .5%. 5% is way too high for third party total.
balladofwindfishes
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We're going to make the right decision
Beer Monkey
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That's code for sending their Reno field office to Arby's.
Basileus777
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Trump has as much chance of winning New York as Stein has at getting 2%
Doc Holliday
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eBay Huckster
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bangbang i'm a timpani
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they probably added some 15 year old with massive cyber experience
eh. I'd be ashamed if Trump won, but it's not going to happen.
Every country is full of racist asshats. It's just something you have to accept and live with.
Hillary winning is proof that we don't live in the worst of all possible worlds and I'm ok with that.
I know that. But 40% of people that are voting are still voting for Trump. That speaks volumes about either the stupidity or the selfishness in this country.
TheLostBigBoss
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then you're going to have to punch Clinton's team for telling Obama it was gone!
Fox can't even get a proper screenshot for their site.
Appears more fair than 538
I'll be replacing you by the next election, hopefully. Asheville seems nice...
NV should be blue already. Surprised they have NC leaning blue and Texas slightly red though. When was the last time Texas was even close?
Asheville is really nice. Property values going up fast there.
Are they gonna commit voter fraud because that's the only way they are winning Nevada. Lock that shit down.
Basileus777
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It's just baffling all around. Utah and Iowa are tossups? NC is lean blue, but NH and NV are not?
wumster3000
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I can agree with this. It doesn't matter if Clinton wins, my perception of the US has been downgraded significantly because we allowed a guy like Trump, to get were he has gotten.
To the white people that didn't vote for him, I thank them dearly. They are the ones that help me keep what little faith I have in the US. Thank you.
eBay Huckster
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She literally just campaigned there with Jay-Z, Beyonce, and LeBron fucking James this past weekend and y'all are trying to push this meme that she thought it was gone?
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