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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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Johnson and Stein look realistic.
Hillary and Donald look like exaggerated JRPG doll models that belong in FFXV by comparison, lol. Not an insult, just an artistic observation. Those are the official images most networks are using for tomorrow night, too, so expect them everywhere. I'm betting they were supplied by the campaigns a year+ ago and are bullshotted deliberately.

GAH today is torture. Starting tomorrow morning I can watch cable news without much detriment since we'll be into actual voting and results. There'll still be HORSERACE on the evening panels tonight. Ooh, I forgot I have the Lucky Star bluray set to watch! Scientifically proven to be the most harmlessly adorable thing ever created that doesn't involve cats.
 

Ty4on

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Fox can't even get a proper screenshot for their site.

Iowa as toss up? :p

I'd love to see Alaska being close. Polls have shown it being quite pinkish.
 
I can agree with this. It doesn't matter if Clinton wins, my perception of the US has been downgraded significantly because we allowed a guy like Trump, to get were he has gotten.

To the white people that didn't vote for him, I thank them dearly. They are the ones that help me keep what little faith I have in the US. Thank you.

This is true of most countries. If the US looked like a European country, then I'd be physically sick over this election. Minorities gonna save us all.
 

Zukkoyaki

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Probably shouldn't panic about NC

In NC: 197K African-Americans who voted early in 2012 haven't voted yet. But 86K of them voted in '14 or '16P. They're voters. They'll vote.

And 102K African-Americans in NC who didn't vote at all in 2012 early voted. Democrats are adding new voters in North Carolina.
 
I know that. But 40% of people that are voting are still voting for Trump. That speaks volumes about either the stupidity or the selfishness in this country.

When I moved here in 2004 most Americans didn't support gay marriage. Now most do. Sure you can look at the 40% or whatever it is that still doesn't and go 'that speaks volumes' but I think what speaks much more convincingly is the trend. The direction we're heading in.

A lot of us have been saying the republican's base are in no small part racist. Perhaps you didn't believe it until Trump brought it out into the open.

But he's still doing worse than Romney amongst white people.

So what you're seeing is something that was there twelve years ago even if it wasn't apparent, and perhaps that's upsetting, but what you aren't getting is that the numbers are going in the right direction. That 43% or whatever he ends up at... it's a slowly dwindling pool. Yes, painfully slowly... but keep watching.

If you live another decade or two, you'll see the GOP either implode or abandon those voters. Because they're aren't going to stop losing their influence.
 

sazzy

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On CNN, Latino turnout up 147% in Georgia. Just amazing! Thank u Trump 4 doing what no voter reg drive alone could have done.
 

Ecotic

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I can agree with this. It doesn't matter if Clinton wins, my perception of the US has been downgraded significantly because we allowed a guy like Trump, to get were he has gotten.

To the white people that didn't vote for him, I thank them dearly. They are the ones that help me keep what little faith I have in the US. Thank you.

Well if you look on the bright side, Trump has inadvertently moved this country to the left. *If* Hillary prevails tomorrow, Democrats will have won an election that they likely would have lost if they faced someone like Rubio. That Supreme Court seat will be ours and Democrats are on track for a string of Presidential victories due to demographics. Trump helped bridge the gap until then.
 
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On CNN, Latino turnout up 147% in Georgia. Just amazing! Thank u Trump 4 doing what no voter reg drive alone could have done.

well

I think I'm gonna put down 100$ on Georgia, just because the returns are so worth it.
 

tmarg

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Trump's not going to win. Chill. Be ashamed for other reason but not because of that orange shit.


The fact that 40+% will vote for him is pretty damning, regardless of the fact that he will lose.

The deplorables basket is far larger than I would have thought a year ago, and it is something to be ashamed of.
 
This place is going to be a mess tomorrow once the exit polls and random misinformation about turnout comes out. And all the swings over the close Senate races...
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
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I think I'm gonna put down 100$ on Georgia, just because the returns are so worth it.

There aren't a ton of Latino voters in Georgia, though, at least comparatively to other states we're discussing.
 
By the 2028 election the US will be much closer to be a minority-majority nation, meaning non-hispanic whites making up 50% or less but are still the largest group. Assuming non-white votes continue to trend liberal, the GOP is done. Sooner or later.
 

Revolver

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@sahilkapur: Kellyanne Conway says the Trump campaign "beefed up our field team" in NV after seeing the early returns. (cc: @ralstonreports)

That's one of the 6 paths to victory she was touting on TV this morning. Despite the early voting numbers, she expects a strong day-of turnout. Also feeling good about Michigan and they had a big turnout at that hanger in Minnesota yesterday. Feels really good about New Hampshire and Pennsylvania. Oh and she had to cast doubt on the FBI being able to go through all those e-mails, “650,000 emails, they would have had to look at one per second 24/7 since they announced their investigation,” Conway said. “That’s pretty good efficiency for the federal government.
 

A Human Becoming

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Iowa as toss up? :p

I'd love to see Alaska being close. Polls have shown it being quite pinkish.
Alaska is becoming more favorable for Democrats for reasons I don't know. Sam Wang says like Nevada it's hard to poll, so the results might differ significantly.

Does anyone know a good source for demographic changes and predictions for all the states?
 
The fact that 40+% will vote for him is pretty damning, regardless of the fact that he will lose.

The deplorables basket is far larger than I would have thought a year ago, and it is something to be ashamed of.

The deplorables basket is becoming less and less influential. Yes, it's shocking if you didn't have an idea of how big it was.

But again, Trump is getting less support from white people than Romney. Not more. We are heading in the right direction.
 

BiggNife

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The fact that 40+% will vote for him is pretty damning, regardless of the fact that he will lose.

The deplorables basket is far larger than I would have thought a year ago, and it is something to be ashamed of.

Trump's favorability ratings are still incredibly low. A large chunk of republicans are only voting for him because they despise Clinton, while the majority of democrats are actually fine with Hillary as their candidate (despite her overall favorability being low as well).

The "deplorables," as in the Trump voters who are diehards that will follow him off a cliff, make up like a third of the GOP. That's more like 13% of the country.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Iowa as toss up? :p

I'd love to see Alaska being close. Polls have shown it being quite pinkish.

We haven't seen an Alaska poll in 3 weeks, and Clinton led. The story there is the Native American population, which could change that state blue.
 
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I think I'm gonna put down 100$ on Georgia, just because the returns are so worth it.

Bad bet. If I learned one thing in 2012 is that the best indicator of Democratic confidence in a state is who they send out to close just before election day. North Carolina didn't get one Obama visit and we came up short there.

Clinton / All-star celebs in Ohio = We got a shot!

Kaine / Sanders in Arizona = Close but not quite.

No one in Georgia = Not happening. Trump wins by more than the polling average.
 

Iolo

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This place is going to be a mess tomorrow once the exit polls and random misinformation about turnout comes out. And all the swings over the close Senate races...

Don't forget Internet-wide DoS attacks making GAF unusable for hours at a time.
And impairing command and control of GOTV but that's minor in comparison
 
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