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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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RustyNails
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Can you imagine if we didn't have the Obamas? Party of total shit.
JetBlackPanda
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I have two friends that have lost jobs following the election. This is going to be a thing.
I have a friend that works for a city and his job is tied to the EPA.
RIP.
Please tell me we at least don't become Labour Party 2.0.
Unlikely. The smart democrats within the party won't let that happen.
ErasureAcer
Banned
"Health Insurance Lobby is looking through candidates to run in 2020 and I'm going to make sure the one they want wins." Subtext: SinglePayer is a no-go.
"Poor Bernie. They did it to him again." ~Trump August 2020.
"Dean, Debbie...never trust someone who's name starts with a D." ~Trump September 2020
"They killed Bernie. His dream was a good dream. We may disagree but he loved this country. I love it too. But now that Claire McCaskill is their nominee...he couldn't live anymore. His dream dashed twice by the DNC. The American Dream. So Precious and Democrats want to take it away. Don't let them take your dreams or else you'll lose the will to live as well." ~ Trump October 2020
"Thank you for reelecting me America." ~ Trump November 2020
excelsiorlef
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This is what ideological purity gets you.
CrimzonSamurai
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Full GOP control at the federal level, crushing majorities at the state and local. We're never having elections again, are we?
Every day so far I'm becoming more and more full of terror and rage.
Every day so far I'm becoming more and more full of terror and rage.
And here we go.
Because GOP young voters showed up and Dem young voters stayed home.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I feel the GOP could put in laws that would place them in power for a long time, and nobody would do anything.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Dean is the best choice, but I want Ellison involved in some capacity. Ellison's involvement on the ground floor would give me immense confidence that the DNC doesn't even consider jettisoning minorities in favor of some misguided WWC strategy
RustyNails
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We totally failed to capitalize on Obama success from 2008 and 2012. I dont think we'd ever have the coattails needed to bring about progressive change at all levels of government.
Officerrob
Banned
Why don't you do the inverse results with your ridiculous Bernie progressive purity?
Good news, this is what propelled the GOP post 2008 to become the most dominant party in America eight years later. We can do the same.
NYCmetsfan
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We're some people praising Kander and JBL in LA?
I wish Sanders would wake up and realize that trump's appeal was never about economics to his supporters. I know that he tries to see the best in people but there is nothing good to see from those that voted for trump. Even if they aren't racist they voted for that man out of extreme selfishness added upon a thick layer of ignorance.
They also aren't necessarily against free-trade. They are against what accompanies free-trade which is cultural diversity.
They also aren't necessarily against free-trade. They are against what accompanies free-trade which is cultural diversity.
Another reason why I'm still upset over the lack of candidates that decided to stay clear and let Hillary get the nom is that we don't have any young star democrats that you can point to now for 2020. If they had nearly as many debates as the GOP they would have been able to get and maintain their message across the year and get experience on running a campaign and dealing with National media in a different way.
Warren, Booker, and Cuomo are the only 3 I can think of now that I can see running. Maybe Gillibrand?
Gabbard is too soon but who knows.
Warren, Booker, and Cuomo are the only 3 I can think of now that I can see running. Maybe Gillibrand?
Gabbard is too soon but who knows.
The bad news is that it relied on midterm turnout, which we suck at, and eights of Trump is a long fucking time.
NYCmetsfan
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2006 (Though that was whiter)
I think a national message is a lot less important for Dems than Republicans, primarily because Dems represent a much more diverse group of voters. I think a big issue for Dems in midterm elections is that they try to craft a one-size-fits-all message for such a diverse electorate.
What coastal Demss prioritize is a lot different than what motivates, say, black Democrats in the southern states.
Dems need to strengthen their local game.
These aren't progressives though. They're just socialists.
Officerrob
Banned
At this point they hate anybody who didn't support Bernie. Apparently Tulsi Gabbard and Nina Turner are the future of the country
CrimzonSamurai
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I'm seriously considering going to a gun store tomorrow just to have a little armory around just in case. The idea of the GOP going full fascist or at least Putin level despotic is just becoming more and more likely in my mind.
Beer Monkey
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If we can turn RBG into a cyborg we can fix this in 2018 and 2020.
These people are the anti-Tea Party. They want a top-down savior to magically lift up the party and the country. Cult of personality, indeed.
Lolol duck this I'm becoming a republican
I completely agree. My broader point is that the Obama coalition is absolutely still viable during presidential elections. We lost because we didn't turn out.
The most important thing we can do now though is rebuild locally.
GoldenEye 007
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Yup. Exactly. Dean is proven in the 50 state category. I mean he at least appeared to have that going on a good track.
Its your constitutional right to purchase a firmarm however if you do decide to purchase one make sure you follow your states regulations and get yourself a gun safe.
I'd also recommend keeping your ammo locked separately from your guns in case you have a child around.
ArkhamFantasy
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Who decides the leader of the DNC?
Officerrob
Banned
The fight to try and pull the party to the FAR left will be very real
Four_Chamber
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I love Howard Dean but I think the DNC needs to start fresh- that's why I'd prefer Keith Ellison. That's not to say Dean doesn't have a role- he should have a leadership position at the DNC because he did great building the 50 state strategy. However, Keith at the top for me.
DrForester
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First African American President meets KKK endorsed racist who will replace him...
And it will bomb if badly if it succeeds. At that point I'd bail to the GOP to try and moderate that. Gulp.
Economically. Not socially. Because social issues aren't real issues, they are "identity politics". I heard that a dozen times this year from Sanders supporters. Looking forward to hearing it again from the DNC.
And to be clear -- if the next Democratic candidate abandons intersectionality, they won't get a dime or an hour of labor from me.
It's a good idea. Shit is going to go nuclear before Trump is done.
Dubbedinenglish
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Him putting the name of a Muslim Rep should be enough clue that Gabbard should be avoided.
GoldenEye 007
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Some of his supporters posted a petition for him and an article talking about him. He's part-time? No, can't really support that.
This is full-time issue and needs 100% attention.
Officerrob
Banned
Absolutely
A Human Becoming
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That's an awful attitude.
And_Gignac
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Lol Howard Dean? Really!?
The Clinton taint is all over him. No fucking way.
Its like Dems just dont want to learn anything from this disaster.
The Clinton taint is all over him. No fucking way.
Its like Dems just dont want to learn anything from this disaster.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Guys, Democratic party is not fucked just like the GOP wasn't fucked in 2008 or 2016.
We will come back and we find someone that will be a good candidate when the time comes. Everything one thought John Edwards would be the heir apparent and look at what happened.
Everyone thought Hillary would be the one in 2008, look at what happened,
Bernie came out of nowhere and almost became the candidate,
So many things between now and 2018-2020 that will make a huge difference.
Lets stick together and mobilize!!!
We will come back and we find someone that will be a good candidate when the time comes. Everything one thought John Edwards would be the heir apparent and look at what happened.
Everyone thought Hillary would be the one in 2008, look at what happened,
Bernie came out of nowhere and almost became the candidate,
So many things between now and 2018-2020 that will make a huge difference.
Lets stick together and mobilize!!!
Officerrob
Banned
Here it comes...
Dean coming back is the best thing that can happen for the DNC, I think. We need a full timer that can get people energized about midterms and that's what he did in 2006.
Bernie bros are gonna get pissed by anyone who isn't personally approved by him. You can't please everyone.
The more I think about it the more brazile doesn't have a chance because of this campaign and the CNN thing so that's a relief. She's easily the worst outcome because she'd just be DWS 2 and we all know how well that turned out the first time.
Bernie bros are gonna get pissed by anyone who isn't personally approved by him. You can't please everyone.
The more I think about it the more brazile doesn't have a chance because of this campaign and the CNN thing so that's a relief. She's easily the worst outcome because she'd just be DWS 2 and we all know how well that turned out the first time.
Gurl, Bernie is too busy running away from the Democrats and being an independent again, so
GoldenEye 007
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Wasn't he the chair during Obama's rise?
Yep, we're gonna get Corbyn'd for sure.
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