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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black

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What's more appropriate, in how the first female presidential candidate is referred to. That Hillary is called "Madam President" or "President Clinton"?
 
If the Clinton campaign was actually sitting on tapes of Trump saying shit and the media was unwilling to pull the trigger, why didn't they just post the audio on some anonymous YouTube channel and then have another random account tweet it out to get people to watch it? Get the media to cover it forcibly. I'll never understand not unloading EVERYTHING on Trump this cycle.

Because they don't have said tapes. They don't exist

Come on guys this is the whitey tape just with twitter not roger stone and powerline

this is Weigel writing about that back in 2008

Last week, I learned of a Clinton donor who'd seen the video on an iPhone and was trying to push it onto liberal media. But iPhones display video from YouTube—where you can't find this video—or in digital format burned onto the phone. Could someone convert the video to an easily-downloable format and just decide to keep a lid on it?* Whatever! Last night, I learned that the same donor had actually seen a DVD of the "whitey" speech, and that Louis Farrakhan appeared in it. This was around the time that Johnson poured gasoline on the story by promising an "explosive" break in the story. Today's update:

I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!!
What's more appropriate, in how the first female presidential candidate is referred to. That Hillary is called "Madam President" or "President Clinton"?

Madam president.
She was madam secretary
 

Slacker

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Anyone see the documentary the choice? Facinating docu about trump and clinton. They speculate that trump decided to run For president when Obama roasted him in 2012

I had to go back and watch that again. LOL man what a savaging. Trump got fricasseed, sitting there stone-faced while everyone around him lost their shit. I love it more every time I watch it.
 

Bowdz

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I know it would never happen, but I would love to see Kazir Khan be appointed to the VA Senate seat. He's so charismatic, honest, and motivated. As far as I see it:
Pros:
- Historic appointment as the first Muslim Senator
- Unique perspective as a gold star parent
- Articulate and inspiring
- Lack of political skeletons to have flung at him
- Awesome personal story that is the definition of the American dream
- Very large public profile after his DNC speech and subsequent Trump feud

Cons:
- Never been elected
- Lacks major donor network
 

Teggy

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Did Halperin have a different role in 2008 and 2012? With his tv show and Trump supporter role this cycle he doesn't seem to be in a position to write the Game Change sequel (triquel?)
 

Grief.exe

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I know it would never happen, but I would love to see Kazir Khan be appointed to the VA Senate seat. He's so charismatic, honest, and motivated. As far as I see it:
Pros:
- Historic appointment as the first Muslim Senator
- Unique perspective as a gold star parent
- Articulate and inspiring
- Lack of political skeletons to have flung at him
- Awesome personal story that is the definition of the American dream
- Very large public profile after his DNC speech and subsequent Trump feud

Cons:
- Never been elected
- Lacks major donor network

I remember right wingers were trying to attach him to the Muslim Brotherhood just after the DNC.
 
Clinton is campaigning in Ottawa County, Michigan.

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Makes no sense.

Even McCain won it,.
 

Blader

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Just a little something from Facebook to enrage you guys. Fortunately it only showed up in my feed because a high school friend of mine was ripping it to shreds.

Trump being accused of racism as early as 1973 is a pretty well-worn talking point, though. Trump talked about it himself in the debates!
 
Senate Predictions?

Senate: 46 Dem / 46 Rep

Wisconsin (Dem / Rep)
Pennsylvania (Dem / Rep)
Nevada (Dem / Rep)
New Hampshire (Dem / Rep)
Indiana (Dem / Rep)
Missouri (Dem / Rep)
North Carolina (Dem / Rep)
Florida (Dem / Rep)

Wisconsin - Dem
Pennsylvania - Dem
Nevada - Dem
New Hampshire - Dem
Indiana - Dem
Missouri - Dem
North Carolina - Rep
Florida - Rep
 
Clinton is campaigning in Ottawa County, Michigan.

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Makes no sense.

Even McCain won it.

If you can flip a few thousand votes here or there, it adds up. If they're iffy on Trump (and lots of traditional Republican voters are), you can make inroads, and it's not like she's trying to run the vote up in a safe state like California; a few thousand votes in Michigan might swing the state (although it seems like a pretty safe D at this point).
 

jtb

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Did Halperin have a different role in 2008 and 2012? With his tv show and Trump supporter role this cycle he doesn't seem to be in a position to write the Game Change sequel (triquel?)

Oh he's definitely writing it. That's why he's cheerleading for Trump so much: for the access.
 

Maxim726X

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I don't think it will be that cut and dry. You have pundits like Hannity and Limbaugh vowing to blame a Trump loss on the "establishment Republicans" not getting behind him. They can't fathom the thought that Trump was just a terrible candidate. And it's those pundits who have pretty must taken the wheel of the Republican Party. They control the base, and they could very well just keep going down the crazy rabbit hole.

I'm still not totally convinced that Trump doesn't try again in 2020.

Right, but it's the establishment Republicans that will have that much more to gain from keeping radicals like Trump away from the Presidency.

Their base will bitch and whine, but will ultimately vote for whomever is the R on the ticket. Think of the long term damage Trump's campaign will cause the party... It may never recover. The pundits will fall in line in the same fashion.
 

jbug617

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Latest from ABC/WaPo
@TheFix: Clinton ahead among early voters 55-40 in latest WaPo-ABC tracking poll

Also the midnight rally in NC is crazy.
Bill and Chelsea
Lady Gaga
Bon Jovi
Samantha Ronson
 

ZealousD

Makes world leading predictions like "The sun will rise tomorrow"
538 conveniently curving back up towards Hillary at last minute after public scrutiny

I'm sure the fact that the polls in general are doing the same thing has nothing to with it. Clearly Nate is just making shit up as he goes. \s
 

Blader

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I also think Hillary will win ME-2 and NE-2. The last few Maine polls have had her up in ME-2, and didn't the last Nebraska poll have her right where she needs to be in NE-2 early vote?
 
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