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[QuiteWhittle]

These people can't just accept a majority of Democrats prefer Clinton. She has to be cheating somehow.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

It makes sense if you think all other politicians are corrupt.

"They need to stop being corrupt and being statesmen." -my brother, the probable trump supporter

 

[Makai]

These people can't just accept a majority of Democrats did prefer Clinton. She has to be cheating somehow.

Super PAC

 

[pigeon]

This has got to be a troll. I don't buy it.

 

[CCS]

I'm reminded of that Churchill quote: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

EDIT: Actually, I retract that. A majority of people are somewhat sane, the idiots are just very loud.

 

[Bowdz]

As far as I know the indictment and criminal prosecution is completely off the table in Hillary's case.

Nothing is off the table until the FBI and DoJ have made a final ruling. There has been a lot of reading of the tea leaves, but nobody outside of the AG and FBI have any sound knowledge about the case and despite a few "leaks" to GOP sources, the final outcome is unknown.

 

[Makai]

This has got to be a troll. I don't buy it.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-cant-count-on-bernie-sanders-suppo/?page=all

Not a huge movement, of course.

 

[Ophelion]

Super PAC

Super delegates.

A lot of things with "super" in it. Superman endorsement imminent? That'd make her really unpopular with the youth vote. Everyone knows they prefer Batman.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

It makes sense if you think all other politicians are corrupt.

And this is different from Trump supporters, how?

Forget Ron Paul, the parallel between Trump and Bernie fans is getting horrifying.

 

[Bowdz]

According to Bret Baier, Bernie has officially conceded MO to Hillary.

#CleanSweep #Blessed

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Today in shit which is infuriating but maybe 2% of the electorate will bother with.

Bernie's going to endorse Clinton. I doubt 10k write him in

 

[Cerium]

I would love to see a Clinton upset in Utah.

 

[CCS]

If Clinton takes Utah and goes big in Arizona there's going to be a severe danger of marine extinctions due to the excess salt from r/s4p.

 

[pigeon]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-cant-count-on-bernie-sanders-suppo/?page=all

Not a huge movement, of course.

Ah, my old friend the Washington Times. How I miss the days I only had to deal with you in conservative literature dropoffs from my crazy grandfather.

 

[Kangi]

If Clinton takes Utah and goes big in Arizona there's going to be a severe danger of marine extinctions due to the excess salt from r/s4p.

Primary 2.0 will start any day now!

 

[NeoXChaos]

what makes you think Utah? Idaho is the same day.

 

[Makai]

GOP Leaders Assure Sobbing Rubio It Not His Fault Party Splitting Up

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

These people can't just accept a majority of Democrats prefer Clinton. She has to be cheating somehow.

In their defense, if you're 18-30 and most of your friends are too and you don't follow politics with the level of scrutiny poligaf does, I'd imagine it really does seem like all these Hillary voters are coming out of nowhere. That doesn't excuse stupidity, but I can see why they feel disillusioned given the seeming ubiquity of Bernie support in their day-to-day life. It's pretty rare that a candidate can get ~85% of an entire generational group and then can't clench the nomination.

 

[CCS]

Primary 2.0 will start any day now!

The confederacy has finished voting, nothing can stop Sanders now!

 

[User 85168]

I'm reminded of that Churchill quote: "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

EDIT: Actually, I retract that. A majority of people are somewhat sane, the idiots are just very loud.

He also said democracy is the worst form of government, except for all others. The fact that people have the freedom to throw away their vote like that is what's great.

 

[CCS]

Also, I don't remember seeing this posted:

Donald "Maybe it says he's a Muslim" Trump's grammar 'typical of children aged 11 and under'

 

[johnsmith]

Another day, another "Kasich is a misogynist" story

http://gawker.com/reminder-john-kas..._medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=thursdayPM

While spending several days with reporter Molly Ball for a profile in The Atlantic, Kasich told Ball that:
..he did not read The Atlantic—and his wife didn’t, either. He said that my job, writing about politics and politicians, was “really a dumb thing to do.” Later, he singled me out in a meeting of cabinet officials to upbraid me for what he considered a stupid question in one of our interviews.

 

[User 463088]

I mean, if you just want to be mad at Bernie supporters then by all means, but let's not pretend like any meaningful amount of people even support this idea. I can list out a few hundred groups of people with similarly asinine beliefs and we can pretend like they're influential enough to matter, but I think it's better to recognize how inconsequential they are and not sprout gray hairs over them.

I'm not mad at all Bernie supporters. I'm mad at people who post stuff like that. A write in candidate is not going to do shit, even if huge swatches of people voted for him. It's nothing more than being a sore loser.

You (and I mean the universal you who believes the stuff in that stupid meme) don't get to say the will of the people only matters as long as they vote the way you want them to. Democracy means your person can lose. If that happens, you have to get over it.

 

[sangreal]

Also, I don't remember seeing this posted:

Donald "Maybe it says he's a Muslim" Trump's grammar 'typical of children aged 11 and under'

Guess he really is maturing

Donald Trump Talks Like a Third-Grader [Politico, 2015]

 

[CCS]

Guess he really is maturing

Donald "That baby was driving me crazy" Trump Talks Like a Third-Grader [Politico, 2015]

Ooh he might make it to being 16 just in time for the Election! How wonderful

 

[Black Mamba]

So I listened to Bill Simmons Podcast today with former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreu and he had the most amazing Ted Cruz story.

Apparently, when Cruz was in college, he and his roommates in the dorm would play Poker. One night, Cruz was so far behind that he was down like $2000 or something.

Because Cruz had no intention of paying off his debt, he went to the RA and tattled on the group for illegally gambling and got the whole group punished but he didn't have to pay off (since it was against the rules).

I laughed out loud. It's the most quintessential Cruz story ever.

 

[Kangi]

In their defense, if you're 18-30 and most of your friends are too and you don't follow politics with the level of scrutiny poligaf does, I'd imagine it really does seem like all these Hillary voters are coming out of nowhere. That doesn't excuse stupidity, but I can see why they feel disillusioned given the seeming ubiquity of Bernie support in their day-to-day life. It's pretty rare that a candidate can get ~85% of an entire generational group and then can't clench the nomination.

It's why you see such exasperation among some Bernie supporters in OT. Despite there, by the numbers, being more Bernie supporters around these parts (NeoGAF's average demographic overlaps a lot there), the fact that they see any sizable number of Hillary supporters puts them in disbelief. Therefore, we're some HillGAF hive mind and they're poor, oppressed Bernie supporters.

...Which doesn't make much sense, because there are plenty of Bernie bubbles on the internet they can go to if they don't want to face any opposition to Bernie.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

I'm not mad at all Bernie supporters. I'm mad at people who post stuff like that. A write in candidate is not going to do shit, even if huge swatches of people voted for him. It's nothing more than being a sore loser.

You (and I mean the universal you who believes the stuff in that stupid meme) don't get to say the will of the people only matters as long as they vote the way you want them to. Democracy means your person can lose. If that happens, you have to get over it.

My sentiments exactly. Let them eat cake.

 

[exmachina64]

Change a few words and it reads like the Tea Party.

 

[shem935]

So I listened to Bill Simmons Podcast today with former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreu and he had the most amazing Ted Cruz story.

Apparently, when Cruz was in college, he and his roommates in the dorm would play Poker. One night, Cruz was so far behind that he was down like $2000 or something.

Because Cruz had no intention of paying off his debt, he went to the RA and tattled on the group for illegally gambling and got the whole group punished but he didn't have to pay off (since it was against the rules).

I laughed out loud. It's the most quintessential Cruz story ever.

Dang he sucks at poker.

This was probably his face when he had a good hand:

 

[BoboBrazil]

Another day, another "Kasich is a misogynist" story

http://gawker.com/reminder-john-kas..._medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=thursdayPM

While spending several days with reporter Molly Ball for a profile in The Atlantic, Kasich told Ball that:
..he did not read The Atlantic—and his wife didn’t, either. He said that my job, writing about politics and politicians, was “really a dumb thing to do.” Later, he singled me out in a meeting of cabinet officials to upbraid me for what he considered a stupid question in one of our interviews.

Finally someone in the media noticed.

 

[pigeon]

In their defense, if you're 18-30 and most of your friends are too and you don't follow politics with the level of scrutiny poligaf does, I'd imagine it really does seem like all these Hillary voters are coming out of nowhere. That doesn't excuse stupidity, but I can see why they feel disillusioned given the seeming ubiquity of Bernie support in their day-to-day life. It's pretty rare that a candidate can get ~85% of an entire generational group and then can't clench the nomination.

Is it? I don't have data, but I remember a very similar thing happening with Howard Dean in 2004. Where's benji and his encyclopedia grasp of political history?

I feel like it is not at all uncommon to have a Democratic candidate that captures the majority of the youth vote, but loses the primary because there just aren't that many youth voters. It's usually pretty demoralizing for the youth, too.

 

[sangreal]

Change a few words and it reads like the Tea Party.

closer to the r[evol]ution imo

 

[Makai]

And this is different from Drumpf supporters, how?

Forget Ron Paul, the parallel between Drumpf and Bernie fans is getting horrifying.

Electing a billionaire is a really hilarious solution for corruption.

 

[UltimaPooh]

You know what? Come the hell on. I was salty as hell in 2008, but I didn't freaking plan on throwing the entire country under the damn bus because me fee-fees got hurt and I didn't get the candidate I wanted. I was 20/21 then, same age as most of these kids. Get over yourself. You had a shot. Your candidate has probably lost. Get over it.

Ya, I sound like a cold hearted bitch, and I totally am, but please.

Just the other day you were defending people wanting to vote for Bernie to do so in the primaries despite the fact that he'll most likely lose.

Now you don't want people to do a write in for Bernie if they feel so inclined.

It's their vote. They probably aren't even Democrats so why would you care? First their just a fringe group who won't amount to anything... then next they are destroying the Democratic party with their rights to write in whoever they want!

 

[Cerium]

Change a few words and it reads like the Tea Party.

Change a few words and it reads like MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

Just the other day you were defending people wanting to vote for Bernie to do so in the primaries despite the fact that he'll most likely lose.

Now you don't want people to do a write in for Bernie if they feel so inclined.

It's their vote. They probably aren't even Democrats so why would you care? First their just a fringe group who won't amount to anything... then next they are destroying the Democratic party with their rights to write in whoever they want!

They are free to write in Bernie, and we are free to call them idiots.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Electing a billionaire is a really hilarious solution for corruption.

But hey, he's outside "The Establishment."

 

[Makai]

closer to the r[evol]ution imo

What were they thinking with that, anyway? Is it supposed to be LOVE backwards? Libertarian ideology comes off as really uncaring and harsh so they had to rebrand.

 

[UltimaPooh]

They are free to write in Bernie, and we are free to call them idiots.

And I'm free to put forward that you guys are in fact the idiots!

Checkmate Atheists.

 

[Makai]

But hey, he's outside "The Establishment."

It's like you run a bank but your accountants keep finding discrepancies in your holdings. Turns out all of your guards have ties to the mob and they're skimming cash out at night. HR decides to hire Al Capone.

 

[B-Dubs]

What were they thinking with that, anyway? Is it supposed to be LOVE backwards? Libertarian ideology comes off as really uncaring and harsh so they had to rebrand.

Pretty sure they stole that from somewhere else.

 

[Makai]

Change a few words and it reads like the Tea Party.

Comparing Bernie fans to the Tea Party is a little unfair because the Tea Party was actually successful!

 

[Y2Kev]

WHY AM I SO PERSECUTED /Ted Cruz

Isn't Samantha bee ridiculously good?

Are there any more democratic debates for the queen to win?

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Is it? I don't have data, but I remember a very similar thing happening with Howard Dean in 2004. Where's benji and his encyclopedia grasp of political history?

I feel like it is not at all uncommon to have a Democratic candidate that captures the majority of the youth vote, but loses the primary because there just aren't that many youth voters. It's usually pretty demoralizing for the youth, too.

A cursory glance at some exit polls from 2004 seems to suggest that Dean never had nearly the hegemony on the youth vote that Bernie does, although he did seem to have a plurality of it.

For instance, Dean got about 25% of the 18-29 vote in Iowa and 34% of the 18-29 vote in New Hampshire. In each instance, he was only a few percentage points ahead of the 2nd place candidate for that age group.

 

[CCS]

WHY AM I SO PERSECUTED /Ted Cruz

Isn't Samantha bee ridiculously good?

Are there any more democratic debates for the queen to win?

Didn't you hear? Debates are just a tool of the mainstream media so instead Weaver and Devine are just going to scream the phrase "WALL STREET TRANSCRIPTS" at Clinton for two hours until the entire electorate rises up and crowns Bernie emperor.

 

[Bronx-Man]

So I listened to Bill Simmons Podcast today with former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreu and he had the most amazing Ted Cruz story.

Apparently, when Cruz was in college, he and his roommates in the dorm would play Poker. One night, Cruz was so far behind that he was down like $2000 or something.

Because Cruz had no intention of paying off his debt, he went to the RA and tattled on the group for illegally gambling and got the whole group punished but he didn't have to pay off (since it was against the rules).

I laughed out loud. It's the most quintessential Cruz story ever.

No wonder no one in Congress likes the douche.

 

[UltimaPooh]

Didn't you hear? Debates are just a tool of the mainstream media so instead Weaver and Devine are just going to scream the phrase "WALL STREET TRANSCRIPTS" at Clinton for two hours until the entire electorate rises up and crowns Bernie emperor.

Best debate... EVER.

 

[Cerium]

So I listened to Bill Simmons Podcast today with former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreu and he had the most amazing Ted Cruz story.

Apparently, when Cruz was in college, he and his roommates in the dorm would play Poker. One night, Cruz was so far behind that he was down like $2000 or something.

Because Cruz had no intention of paying off his debt, he went to the RA and tattled on the group for illegally gambling and got the whole group punished but he didn't have to pay off (since it was against the rules).

I laughed out loud. It's the most quintessential Cruz story ever.

That is so Cruz.

Someone should make an animated cartoon about a timeline where Cruz and Trump were college roommates.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Comparing Bernie fans to the Tea Party is a little unfair because the Tea Party was actually successful!

Successful at what?

Obamacare got passed

Obama got his 2nd term

Gays can marry now

The GoP is never winning another GE for next several decades at least

What exactly have they accomplished?

 

[pigeon]

Just the other day you were defending people wanting to vote for Bernie to do so in the primaries despite the fact that he'll most likely lose.

Now you don't want people to do a write in for Bernie if they feel so inclined.

It's their vote. They probably aren't even Democrats so why would you care? First their just a fringe group who won't amount to anything... then next they are destroying the Democratic party with their rights to write in whoever they want!

I mean, I don't think this is that weird. If people want to vote for Bernie in the primaries, that's fine. If Hillary's almost certainly going to win, then it doesn't matter what you do in the primaries.

But writing in Bernie in the general has actual potential to cost her states! Which would be bad.

So, I mean, incentives are consistent here. If your primary goal is for a Democrat to win the presidency by as much as possible, then you're fine with a doomed primary challenge, but much less fine with an insurgent third party/write-in campaign.