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[Holmes]

I mean, Clinton got 68% in Puerto Rico in 2008. I would not be surprised if she did better this year.

 

[Iolo]

Nate Cohn flat out saying that a sufficiently large win in Puerto Rico, let alone NY or Mid-Atlantic Tuesday, could wipe out any delegate gains Sanders makes in the next month as we move around several small caucuses

Southern state, though.

 

[eBay Huckster]

if she does do better than 68%, it'll probably narrowly edge out American Samoa (68-25) as her best caucus result (with ten times the delegate prize!)

 

[Cerium]

It's been a quiet couple of days.

 

[HUELEN10]

Trump 2016: He would do some decent things

Trump 2016: Some people say he's nice

Trump 2016: Well at least he's not Ted Cruz

We have a winner!

 

[VendettaRed07]

Both parties are the same

 

[BoboBrazil]

It's been a quiet couple of days.

Why did everyone stop doing rallies? Why is Trump not out there doing rallies when there are more primaries in a few days?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

It's kind of weird to read about the genuinely great economic ideas of early 1900s Democrats (elimination of gold standard, replacing tariffs with income tax, estate taxes) when combined with how horrifically racist they were.

I mean, it's perfectly reasonable for both things to be true, but it's just kind of weird to read a wikipedia page and go "mmh, really good idea. Wow, this is nice. Really forward thinking guy here it seems... Oh, he supported a terror group that executed black men even if they even looked a white woman."

 

[GuyKazama]

The Trump presidency fears are so overblown. Presidents don't legislate, so he can't unilaterally create laws. Trump is too shrewd to ruin foreign relations with countries that matter. He's not going to go to war with significant world powers, any situation he puts us into would be no worse than what Bush did and Obama continued. His potential supreme court nominations could set back several things for a few years, for sure, but assuming he's one term it's theoretically possible he may not get any. Things will suck. Collapse of the country? Horseshit.

This is smart and accurate. It is the loss of power that they are freaking out about. Death screams of neocons, and so forth.

Also, no reason to think Trump won't name a reasonable conservative. He will need to get the nominee past the Senate like anyone else. Anyway, Bush named Harriet Meirs -- and he was supposedly a Conservative President.

 

[B-Dubs]

Why did everyone stop doing rallies? Why is Trump not out there doing rallies when there are more primaries in a few days?

He's won. At this point momentum will carry him through, he just needs to make sure he doesn't get fucked at the convention.

 

[BoboBrazil]

He's won. At this point momentum will carry him through, he just needs to make sure he doesn't get fucked at the convention.

He has no ground game. He needs to keep doing rallies to stay in the news and get free air time to push his message. I would agree with you if he had a ground game.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

This is smart and accurate. It is the loss of power that they are freaking out about. Death screams of neocons, and so forth.

Also, no reason to think Trump won't name a reasonable conservative. He will need to get the nominee past the Senate like anyone else. Anyway, Bush named Harriet Meirs -- and he was supposedly a Conservative President.

Wasn't Miers just a lackey of his who was completely incompetent instead of being liberal?

Miers is probably a good model for the type of person Trump would try to nominate, lol. Someone who is loyal to him and has no qualifications whatsoever.

 

[B-Dubs]

He has no ground game. He needs to keep doing rallies to stay in the news and get free air time to push his message. I would agree with you if he had a ground game.

All the news is talking about is how inevitable he is and how the GOP is plotting to fuck him over at the convention. He's already controlling the news cycle.

 

[Aaron Strife]

30'percent of the nation racist?

That seems too low

 

[HUELEN10]

That seems too low

Well yeah, I expect like 70 percent discrimination/bigotry combined.

 

[Holmes]

Imma need Edwards from Maryland, Harris from California, Cortez Masto from Nevada and Duckworth from Illinois in the Senate in 2017. More diverse ladies would be a good thing for the legislature. (Of course, Ross and Hassan also need to win... maybe McGinty too.)

 

[titiklabingapat]

This is cool:

Campaign donations by zip codes in SoCal

 

[Cerium]

Well yeah, I expect like 70 percent discrimination/bigotry combined.

You're voting for Trump.

 

[HUELEN10]

You're voting for Trump.

That is a possibility, yes; OP opened my eyes to that possibility actually.

 

[BoboBrazil]

All the news is talking about is how inevitable he is and how the GOP is plotting to fuck him over at the convention. He's already controlling the news cycle.

Yeah I guess that's true. They go between how the gop can screw him out of the nomination and he's racist commentary. No way of knowing if that benefits him, but the riot coverage from Chicago seemed to help him.

 

[HUELEN10]

This is cool:

Campaign donations by zip codes in SoCal

Lot more Marco than I expected honestly.

 

[Cerium]

That is a possibility, yes; OP opened my eyes to that possibility actually.

You are the 70%.

 

[Holmes]

This is cool:

Campaign donations by zip codes in SoCal

In the 90255 zip code, Hillary received 104.6% of all contributions, and the other candidates received -6.6% of all contributions.

Follow the money people.

 

[HUELEN10]

You are the 70%.

I promise you, I am not.

 

[ugaboga232]

In the 90255 zip code, Hillary received 104.6% of all contributions, and the other candidates received -6.6% of all contributions.

Follow the money people.

Are you telling me I can send debt to candidates? I smell a sanders come from behind strategy.

 

[Cerium]

I promise you, I am not.

 

[Dan]

Nate Cohn flat out saying that a sufficiently large win in Puerto Rico, let alone NY or Mid-Atlantic Tuesday, could wipe out any delegate gains Sanders makes in the next month as we move around several small caucuses

Damn, how did Puerto Rico end up with 60 pledged delegates? That's a hefty number for a territory that won't participate in the presidential election.

 

[Abinash117]

I promise you, I am not.

Doesn't really matter. You voting for him is all that matters because you voting for a candidate that will and want to carry out his ideals which is based on racism/bigotry/etc basically something that you already think is based on.

 

[B-Dubs]

Yeah I guess that's true. They go between how the gop can screw him out of the nomination and he's racist commentary. No way of knowing if that benefits him, but the riot coverage from Chicago seemed to help him.

Well considering the fact the GOP plans to screw him over plays into his messaging, it can only help him. Then again, the racism thing does as well.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Are you telling me I can send debt to candidates? I smell a sanders come from behind strategy.

Student loan reform act.

Bernie Sanders has to pay your student loans

Passes 99-1 in the Senate

No vote was Cruz

Damn, how did Puerto Rico end up with 60 pledged delegates? That's a hefty number for a territory that won't participate in the presidential election.

Damn shame they don't either, would be an easy extra 7 electoral votes for Democrats.

 

[Holmes]

Damn, how did Puerto Rico end up with 60 pledged delegates? That's a hefty number for a territory that won't participate in the presidential election.

I'm guessing since it can't vote in the presidential election, the Democratic party felt bad and gave them a good amount of influence in the nomination process.

 

[Cerium]

Damn shame they don't either, would be an easy extra 7 electoral votes for Democrats.

Not to mention the extra two Democratic Senators we'd get.

What would it actually take to give them statehood? Filibuster proof majority?

 

[Holmes]

Puerto Rico actually voted for statehood in 2012, but the Republican Congress isn't biting. Maybe President Clinton and her majorities in Congress can grant it to them?

 

[User 85168]

It wouldn't happen with a Republican majority in either chamber.

 

[lenovox1]

Not to mention the extra two Democratic Senators we'd get.

What would it actually take to give them statehood? Filibuster proof majority?

No, a simple majority.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constitution

How the process has historically gone is that the territory holds a referendum, the majority the population favors statehood, Congress makes them write a state constitution, and then they become a state.

Puerto Rico hasn't made it past stage 2 yet.

 

[Cerium]

No, a simple majority.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constitution

How the process has historically gone is that the territory holds a referendum, the majority the population favors statehood, Congress makes them write a state constitution, and then they become a state.

Puerto Rico hasn't made it past stage 2 yet.

Two extra senators would be huge.

We need to retake the Congress.

 

[Third Strike]

Puerto Rico actually voted for statehood in 2012, but the Republican Congress isn't biting. Maybe President Clinton and her majorities in Congress can grant it to them?

Whew, that's two new Democratic seats in the Senate, and four to five in the House. I'm also in favor of giving D.C. statehood as well. For the other territories, allow them to continue operate separately, but give them two Senator seats and one House seat. Everyone in the U.S. should have representation.

 

[lenovox1]

It wouldn't happen with a Republican majority in either chamber.

Puerto Rico's Statehood had bipartisan support

It's really up to the territory to hold an actual "Yes or No" referendum and to, you know, draft a constitution. That has much more to do with Puerto Rico's local government than the federal one.

 

[Dan]

Puerto Rico's Statehood had bipartisan support

That sounds more impressive than the reality. While better than none, there were only 12 Republican cosponsors.

 

[GuyKazama]

Wasn't Miers just a lackey of his who was completely incompetent instead of being liberal?

Miers is probably a good model for the type of person Trump would try to nominate, lol. Someone who is loyal to him and has no qualifications whatsoever.

That's not what I meant -- I'm saying Bush failed when it came to making Court picks, so there's no reason to say that an Establishment President would do better than Trump at a nomination.

 

[User 85168]

Puerto Rico's Statehood had bipartisan support

It's really up to the territory to hold an actual "Yes or No" referendum and to, you know, draft a constitution. That has much more to do with Puerto Rico's local government than the federal one.

While they may state that (even their party position states they support statehood as long as the people vote), you can look at the bills (particularly the House bill HR 2000) that got killed in committee and their sponsors to glimpse a picture of which party enthusiastically supports statehood.

 

[Holmes]

DC statehood is a much more tricky situation. At least with Puerto Rico there's a legitimate excuse and reason to do it. But in all honesty, I don't see Congress and Clinton using up political capital to grant Puerto Rico statehood if Dems recapture both chambers. There would be so much else to pass. But who knows?

Man, passing immigration reform and Puerto Rico statehood would cement the latino vote for the Dems for a generation.

 

[VendettaRed07]

Is it wrong that I'm opposed to state hood for DC simply due to how it'll screw up our flag?

DC and Puerto Rico can only come in if we mash North and South Dakota + Virginia and West Virginia back together again.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Is it wrong that I'm opposed to state hood for DC simply due to how it'll screw up our flag?

DC and Puerto Rico can only come in if we mash North and South Dakota + Virginia and West Virginia back together again.

I agree with both of those points lol.

 

[pigeon]

Honestly, I do think the fears of Trump are somewhat overblown, in that most of the rest of the government is absolutely not going to go along with his absurd policies. Congress will never sign a trade deal that requires Mexico to pay for a wall or be sanctioned, never pass legislation to loosen libel laws, never propose a healthcare plan that would keep the good parts of Obamacare while paying for it only with HSAs and interstate insurance sales. His rhetoric is the most dangerous part of a potential presidency, and even that is, I think, eminently counterable in the grassroots. A Trump presidency would be a disaster, but I think anybody worried that he might actually achieve fascism is just not thinking.

Did you like forget that the primary duty of the President is to be Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States?

This stuff is really baffling to me. The president is allowed to fire nuclear missiles whenever he wants to! He controls all government action and most legislation through controlling the actions of the executive branch!

How do you look at the actions of Obama and George W. Bush before him and not recognize the vital importance of a capable and rational person in the Oval Office?

Is it wrong that I'm opposed to state hood for DC simply due to how it'll screw up our flag?

DC and Puerto Rico can only come in if we mash North and South Dakota + Virginia and West Virginia back together again.

Should probably just switch to a big white number anyway. Adding more stars every time seems inefficient.

 

[Makai]

Watching South Park. Cartman is preparing for a debate by digging up dirt on his opponents. Doesn't know what the topic is on.

Trump parallels are unending.

 

[Basileus777]

Is it wrong that I'm opposed to state hood for DC simply due to how it'll screw up our flag?

DC and Puerto Rico can only come in if we mash North and South Dakota + Virginia and West Virginia back together again.

Leave the flag then.

 

[Makai]

51 star flags look cool

I don't like pigeon's plan

 

[sphagnum]

Is it wrong that I'm opposed to state hood for DC simply due to how it'll screw up our flag?

DC and Puerto Rico can only come in if we mash North and South Dakota + Virginia and West Virginia back together again.

Nah, just gotta get to 54 states so that we can have even lined goodness like the 48 star flag again.

PR + DC + I guess turn Guam and the Virgin Islands into states?

 

[pigeon]

I don't like pigeon's plan

Yeah, that's way more efficient. Upvote. Imagine how much time you'll save not having to count all the stars to make sure there are fifty and you're not accidentally saluting the pre-1959 United States of America.