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PoliGAF 2016 |OT3| You know what they say about big Michigans - big Florida
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Basileus777
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Trump consolidating that Rubio vote. (See why narratives about what would happen if you add candidate X's vote to Cruz's don't work)
JetBlackPanda
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I'm all for supporting your candidate but when Hillary blows him out of the water it's all silent.
Tonight it's #feelthebern!! We gonna win the rest! Etc.
I hate it.
Tonight it's #feelthebern!! We gonna win the rest! Etc.
I hate it.
Not here. We were giddy af last Super Tuesday, which was the nail in the coffin for Sanders's campaign.
Macho Madness
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I saw it as fundamentally over in Nevada.
User 463088
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http://DemRace.com/?share=WicryFSy
I posted this in the OT.
If Bernie wins every remaining state he's favored in by a 75/25 margin, and Hillary manages a 51/49 split in the states she's favored in....
She wins with a 67 pledged delegate majority.
I posted this in the OT.
If Bernie wins every remaining state he's favored in by a 75/25 margin, and Hillary manages a 51/49 split in the states she's favored in....
She wins with a 67 pledged delegate majority.
Basileus777
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South Carolina was the dagger for Bernie. Before that there was some vague hope of keeping margins down in the South.
Yeah, this is more accurate. I think I realized she's be the nominee post SC.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Most people are really ill-informed in general. I had to spend a chunk of yesterday explaining to people why Hillary is a better option for president than Trump. I was the only one in a group of six who didn't consider them equally bad options. And I'm pretty sure everyone in this group would identify as democrats. Or at the very least, they wouldn't consider themselves republicans. The level of cynicism about our political process among the general population is really disheartening.
JetBlackPanda
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Well yeah the right has controlled most of the process for a few years. Shutting down the govt and reading books on the senate floor. It's been a fucking joke.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump doing extremely well in counties near California. Headed for that June 7th dagger.
Macho Madness
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AP calls Idaho for Bernie.
Goodnight.
Goodnight.
JetBlackPanda
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Can someone help me understand the Bernie support for the liberals in super republican states? Or is it really a white thing. Im really interested.
excelsiorlef
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Jesus christ the level of delusion
OrangeGrayBlue
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None of the CA counties that border other states contain San Diego, Los Angeles or San Francisco. In fact, they're mostly empty desert.
JetBlackPanda
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I'm scared trump won't win another state.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Why? His best states are ahead of him.
Tesseract
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they're poor and sick and dying
they're super cool and rad people who believe healthcare and education are human rights
shinra-bansho
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She's down about 13 or so delegates then for the night?
The Arizona win bodes well for California.
The Arizona win bodes well for California.
JetBlackPanda
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Do you think these voters will swing for the queen when the time comes?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I mean, the south is pretty solidly red and they were not fond of Bernie at all. Utah's Dems are super liberal and white though. I mean, we just elected a lesbian mayor in SLC.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Okay, fine, bring facts to the discussion
To your credit, I don't see Cruz or Kasich winning California. Kasich is a lightweight and Cruz only seems to do well in states with low people:cattle ratios.
One can still support Bernie knowing full well the improbability of his math playing out. He still draws massive crowds and seemingly excites the youth vote. Hopefully there are some mini-Berns out there willing to take up the cause at lower levels when he drops since there is obviously a demand for it.
Personally, I like having the data on areas ripe for social democrats to run for the house or senate. Gotta get the Coffee Party in full swing for 2020.
Personally, I like having the data on areas ripe for social democrats to run for the house or senate. Gotta get the Coffee Party in full swing for 2020.
SolicitorPirate
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Honestly, I think cynicism is fine. The problem is the rise of ignorant cynicism, misidentifying itself as a revolution.
It's not predictive of how he'll do in bordering counties, but rather South California in general. I think we can say SoCal will go for Trump at this point, and as for NorCal, well... I mean, their other option is Ted Cruz or a loser, so it might also go to Trump, albeit closer. This state nominated Fiorina and Whitman in the same year a while back, and Trump fits that businessman archetype, with some added racism against the immigrants that California Republicans don't seem to like.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I got an interesting email from Democracy for America yesterday asking me to donate to Donna Edwards' campaign for senate. What was noteworthy was their wording, though: they talked about it in terms of "bringing the political revolution" to Maryland and contributing to "true progressives". It seems like there's definitely an effort to brand some politicians as Bernie Democrats or something to that effect.
excelsiorlef
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Youth vote still ain't showing up to the polls. He's utterly failed on that front.
I mean, Edwards endorsed Clinton so that's some funny terminology but I'm all about electing her and more people like her.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I'm not so sure that it's predictive of Socal. I do think Trump will win CA because who else would it be, but coastal California is like a different state from inland California.
It's definitely predictive in terms of the Latino vote in CA. Bernie can't win the Dem primary without substantially closing those margins.
EDIT: oh we're talking GOP. STILL DELIRIOUS.
titiklabingapat
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Yeah.They didn't even spend any money in ID and UT and the appearances were sparse. I'm confident that they are going trying to close the gap in WA. She won't win but she doesn't need to. Just lower Bernie's margins. More than anything,this tells me her operations are pretty efficient and well functioning which bodes well for November. In Mook we trust.
Sure, but are coastal Republicans all that different from SoCal Republicans, aside from intensity of hate for immigrants and income? I would scan past primary results but I'm on my phone.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Hillary needs more organization in Utah to win there in November though.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I mean, those are pretty huge differences. You might as well ask if WV coal miner republicans are all that different from Orange County, old money republicans.
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While we're on that topic, I'm not so sure it's predictive. Inyo county, which borders Nevada, has a total population of 18,000 people (so ~9,000 democrats), goes reliably republican in presidential elections, and is 74% white.
Fun fact: it also has a population density of 2 people per square mile. Wyoming is 3x more densely populated.
titiklabingapat
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SoCal Republicans can be pretty extreme considering the state. Hunter (CA-50) is from SD and of the anti-immigrant variety. There is a small city in his district called Santee. It's nickname is Klan-tee. NorCal Republicans (they exist??) tend to not be as crazy.
Officerrob
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Despite what any polling might say right now, seems like a waste of time and money to me
OrangeGrayBlue
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Yeah, dems don't need Utah like, at all. That money is much better spent locking down Virginia. It's a relatively easy swing state for dems and almost guarantees a republican loss.
So in Halo tonight, we had a serious Trump supporter in our party. I've never been able to stand him, but man tonight, he was just the worst.
Fully supports the wall, totally convinced mexico will pay for it, any illegal immigrant is an 'enemy invader', went back to the war of 1812 and Revolutionary War to cite the United States being 'invaded'?? Fully convinced we can't pay for ourselves, yet we can't raise taxes.
Shit was too much. Had about 5 people arguing him down, deflected absolutely everything, and if he didn't deflect he just had bluster and anger.
Never joining a party with him again, fuck.
Fully supports the wall, totally convinced mexico will pay for it, any illegal immigrant is an 'enemy invader', went back to the war of 1812 and Revolutionary War to cite the United States being 'invaded'?? Fully convinced we can't pay for ourselves, yet we can't raise taxes.
Shit was too much. Had about 5 people arguing him down, deflected absolutely everything, and if he didn't deflect he just had bluster and anger.
Never joining a party with him again, fuck.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I want my state to vote Democrat for once in my life, okay.
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What is Trump's position on water rights?
User 85168
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no water for mexicans
OrangeGrayBlue
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It was also McCain and Romney country, but there just aren't enough people there to overturn the mass of democrats out of San Diego, San Francisco and Los Angeles. Trump trying to win a state that isn't even majority white will be a colossal waste of resources on his part.
edit- I just realized we're talking about the primaries and not the general. Whoops!
https://mobile.twitter.com/IanSams/status/712504047346036736
As for NorCal Republicans, I know some. Just some. I know maaaany Democrats though, and some non-citizens that would otherwise be Democrats.
White farmers who employ undocumented immigrants for cheap labor voting for a candidate who wants to deport said workers.
As for NorCal Republicans, I know some. Just some. I know maaaany Democrats though, and some non-citizens that would otherwise be Democrats.
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