Nazgul_Hunter
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I think this is a case of someone who knows how to get the pageviews by getting upvoted to the top of Reddit
eBay Huckster
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i mean, that and a bachelor's degree would become "bottom basic knowledge every person should get to function in culture" alongside all the other things becoming intrinsic to master's programs
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Oh. YES.
As for Cruz, like 538 said yesterday, the remaining states in the primary aren't his prime voters. I don't see any way he ends up with more delegates than Trump.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Cruz is pretty much out of states near Texas and out of states full of Mormons so it's going to be a lot more difficult for him moving forward, definitely.
Anyway, I'm glad the GOPe is uniting behind a man as truly dangerous and unhinged and hateful as Ted Cruz. That won't backfire later on by showing Cruz to be someone "respectable" that establishment voters could support in 2020.
Anyway, I'm glad the GOPe is uniting behind a man as truly dangerous and unhinged and hateful as Ted Cruz. That won't backfire later on by showing Cruz to be someone "respectable" that establishment voters could support in 2020.
TheLostBigBoss
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bu bu bu but the independents and all the people switching to republicans!!!!
There has been so much Reddit fodder articles and sure enough they all get upvoted to the top of Reddit.
Even stuff like the Russia National news and Brietbart
JetBlackPanda
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Talk radio in Utah this morning was filled with "I'm not sure I made the right choice last night, yeah I voted against Trump, but I wish I would have known about the Muslim Patrols comment before I voted for Cruz" lol the people here are fucking idiots.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Kasich doing so poorly is weird, honestly. I expected the biggest anti-abortion warrior in America to do better in Utah.
Tesseract
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weeeeeeeeeed
Cruz a massive piece of shit, news @ 11.
Ted Cruz is the worst, Jeb Bush is constantly reminding us of the mess he is by endorsing this guy. People are rallying against Trump and this "never Trump" garbage is trying to frame it like Cruz is the acceptable responsible candidate.
Caucuses are bullshit for a number of reasons, and the social pressure aspect is definitely a big one. Gotta let people have their privacy when they vote.
Basileus777
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It's pretty much impossible for Cruz to win more of the remaining delegates than Trump let alone catch up from being down 300 of them.
Agree
College students overreacting to stuff didn't cause the rise of the Tea Party lol. College students barely even vote!
BoboBrazil
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His brother went to work for him a few weeks ago. It was obvious at that point Jeb would endorse him.
Hillary has done to TYT what Obama did to Republicans.
Basileus777
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Sharron Angle is still an awful person.
Please fuck off Angle, you carbuncle upon humanity.
Oh my god. Please let her win the GOP nomination. That would be insane in a year where Trump could be at the top of the ticket. Just run these quotes with some choice quotes from Trump and you'd clean up.
Tesseract
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masterful pans, and that tight zoom after the little marco pitch shift
It's almost impressive you know. Going that far to prove your status as human garbage.
Atomic Playboy
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Early March: Hillary's wins in the South shouldn't count; those are all RED STATES that vote Republican in November!
Today: Bernie should be the nominee; look at the numbers he did in IDAHO and UTAH!
Today: Bernie should be the nominee; look at the numbers he did in IDAHO and UTAH!
User 463088
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Cruz makes me fucking gag. He's just gross, and I can't put my finger on why.
Atomic Playboy
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Because he's a primordial slime mold who killed a drifter and is wearing his corpse like an ill-fitting skin suit?
RustyNails
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Its because he reminds you of Ted Cruz.
I would agree that she hasn't been too in-depth on the topic. I think this is just her political realism telling her that we can't start arguing that Obamacare sucks and needs to be replaced after spending 8 years fighting to protect it from people saying that it sucks and needs to be replaced.
I honestly think that, post-Obamacare, it makes more sense to pursue a multiple-payer universal health care system. The more I learned about the Swiss system the more clear it became to me that Obamacare was designed to flow directly into that kind of structure. But I'm not sure it happens with a huge "health care revamp" bill again. I think we can get there incrementally off of Obamacare.
I don't think this is crazy, but, like, high school didn't use to be "basic functional knowledge." High school used to be the thing that defined your income outcomes, etc. and set you up for your job. College used to be a thing you went to if you specifically wanted a high-education job, the way that a Masters is now.
eBay Huckster outlined the basic foundation of my thought here -- if we make college free, does that lead to a degradation of college education? Does it just become the new high school? Does everybody need a Masters to succeed?
I think there's a good counterargument here that there were actually fundamental changes in our society that necessitate more education. But I worry a little that this strategy is still neglecting our responsibility to make education useful throughout the process. Could we be more effective by just focusing on making high school better at preparing you for life? (My opinion here is probably colored since I'm a college dropout with a professional job who got that at least partially because I went to a very fancy private high school.)
I like how so many establishment Republicans are/were quick to bash Trump for his Muslim ban (though it was done pretty weakly) yet are fine endorsing a guy who JUST called for something akin to the Gestapo-lite to run through Muslim neighborhoods. The current Republican party is so morally bankrupt on a national level I'm just left incredulous.
"but but why don't minorities like us?"
IF this is true than what a goddamn mess. But no, its never the Sanders campaign that is at fault, clearly it must have been rigged against him *roll eyes*
"Caucuses were a mistake. They are nothing but trash" - Hayao Miyazaki
No but seriously, everything I hear about caucuses make them sound like abominations. Down ballot races are one thing because info is so limited its often hard to inform yourself. For bigger offices, like POTUS, you should be well versed enough and done enough research in the candidates to know exactly who you are voting for and why. Why the fuck do I want to have a "debate" (more likely a screaming match with several people at once who are likely to be more ignorant on the subject than myself) to cast my vote?
"but but why don't minorities like us?"
IF this is true than what a goddamn mess. But no, its never the Sanders campaign that is at fault, clearly it must have been rigged against him *roll eyes*
"Caucuses were a mistake. They are nothing but trash" - Hayao Miyazaki
No but seriously, everything I hear about caucuses make them sound like abominations. Down ballot races are one thing because info is so limited its often hard to inform yourself. For bigger offices, like POTUS, you should be well versed enough and done enough research in the candidates to know exactly who you are voting for and why. Why the fuck do I want to have a "debate" (more likely a screaming match with several people at once who are likely to be more ignorant on the subject than myself) to cast my vote?
You know I'm all about the great Wang.
User 463088
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Why did I go on Reddit? A summation:
The South doesn't count. Period.
AA voters don't count.
Latino voters don't count.
Early voting is FRAUD and shouldn't count
Red States that aren't Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah and Idaho don't count.
Bernie is winning 100% of the Delegates that are pledged to him, ergo he wins.
Hillary is basically Hitler, Satan and the Burger King all rolled into one.
The South doesn't count. Period.
AA voters don't count.
Latino voters don't count.
Early voting is FRAUD and shouldn't count
Red States that aren't Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah and Idaho don't count.
Bernie is winning 100% of the Delegates that are pledged to him, ergo he wins.
Hillary is basically Hitler, Satan and the Burger King all rolled into one.
Fenderputty
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Hillary is the burger QUEEN
He's just a turd in general. If he were born 20 years later he'd be one of those little shitheads doing fake prank videos on Youtube.
My favorite story about The Canadian is an older one: When asked what kind of music he likes, he said:
"Music is interesting.I grew up listening to classic rock, and I'll tell you sort of an odd story: My music taste changed on 9/11. And it's very strange. I actually intellectually find this very curious. But on 9/11, I didn't like how rock music responded. And country music collectively, the way they responded, it resonated with me.And I have to say, it just is a gut-level. I had an emotional reaction that says, these are my people. So ever since 2001, I listen to country music. But I'm an odd country music fan, because I didn't listen to it prior to 2001."
That's right folks, he didn't like how classic rock responded to 9/11. I asked classic rock for a comment but they told me they don't have a comment about 9/11 because they live 40 years ago.
Box of Kittens
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Are you kidding? I clicked on that link looking for world class entertainment, and I got it in spades.
The way the author actually argues that an early vote advantage is a sign of weakness is priceless, especially given that the argument is pure conjecture as to the meaning of the results. I enjoyed the way the author implied that early votes were somehow less legitimate than votes on election day itself. I also had fun imagining the article the author would write if Sanders was winning the early vote and Clinton was winning on election day ("These results are confirmation that Bernie has the more enthusiastic and energized voters... Superdelegates need to ask themselves if they can afford to pass over the campaign with the organizational know-how to get voters to commit early."). I had a nice chuckle at the idea that the results from Arizona should have been reported in such a way that the election would be regarded as a "genuine nail-biter" when Clinton won by a large margin (at this point NYT has 99% reporting and her margin is over 70K votes). Indeed, the implication that results should be reported by the state with the media narrative in mind is good for a laugh on its own.
Then there's the parts where the author goes past conjecture into outright falsehoods. How could you not laugh when he claims that "Clintons margins of victory were originally believed to be 25 points in Missouri, 30 points in Illinois, and 30 points in Ohio" when no media source was reporting any such thing? Or when he claims that Clinton's lead is 5 points nationally without disclaiming that this is based on taking the poll that shows the smallest margin among those in the field in March (aggregates have the lead around 10)? The best part is actually writing the sentence that said 5 point margin is "just a hair from being a statistical tie, given the margin of error." That right there is one of the funniest things written about polling since the days of unskewing.
And who can resist the entertainment value of the author's assertion that the job of the superdelegates is "supporting whichever candidate has the best chance of winning in November" when just a month ago we were hearing how terrible it would be if they ignored the will of the people and supported Clinton even if Sanders won the primaries? The use of general election polling as though it has any predictive value this far out is a classic that still brings a smile to my face.
That link was everything I could have hoped it would be.
This is similar to how I read it, only with the option to also transfer to single payer if we so wished (a public option being the base for that). Really, there's a few ways the ACA can naturally evolve from where it is right now. That's why it never made much sense to just tear it down and start over, it's a framework we can build on that could potentially support any kind of universal healthcare.
Pretty much what I was thinking when I read it. How the hell do you not know the registration deadlines for the primary you are running in?
Particle Physicist
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Has this been posted? It's pretty amazing
Bad Lip Reading - Ted Cruz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY
Bad Lip Reading - Ted Cruz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY
You have to understand the basic tautology. Bernie Sander's voters are good and well informed. Clinton voters are low information voters. There is literally no reason other than ignorance to vote Clinton.
As a result, election day votes are more informed than early votes. Voters in states where Bernie uses more ads are better informed. Caucus goers are better informed. White people are better informed. Southerners are poorly informed that's why they vote Republican in the general. Retroactive momentum is real because Hillary voters in Iowa regret their decisions. All instances of logical inconsistency are just better information winning the day.
Also there's fraud.
Anyway, this is all a lot easier than challenging your own world view.
On some level I feel bad for Bernie fans. I can understand the kind of passionate desperation which comes from feeling/wanting something so much and having to accept that your bubble isn't the world. I felt it myself in 2004. I definitely remember dabbling in conspiracy theories in the immediate aftermath, at least for a couple days.
But then, it's the inability for Bernie voters to accept the fact that, hey, shit, everything you believe as self evident might actually be unpopular or even wrong, that makes them so horrible.
Basileus777
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Yeah, the conventional wisdom that open primaries help Trump/Bernie isn't always true. A lot of it is regional, places with a lot of dixiecrats or conservatives registered as Democrats are favorable to Bernie when it is closed. And Trump's two biggest victories have come in closed contests.
RustyNails
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Anyone know if SLC results are fully in? AP still has Utah at 81%
User 463088
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I mean, I was there in a way in 2008, although I didn't not want Obama, if that makes sense. I do not want Sanders. I've gone from liking the guy well enough to pretty much passive loathing. I get wanting your horse to win, but perhaps I lack the idealism to separate hopes and rainbows from reality.
Ignatz Mouse
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The Daily Courier (trusted local news leader for Prescott, Arizona and surrounding counties since 1882) reported yesterday their exit poll results, for Prescott, Prescott Valley (population ~40k, in Yavapai county), which showed Trump leading 50 / 33 / 8 (against Cruz and Kasich).
And here are the actual results (from CNN), which closely match the exit poll:
Now, on the Democratic side, the Courier reported "Democrats in both locations were trending much more strongly for Sen. Bernie Sanders", with a 62 / 37 vote split.
Any yet, somehow Bernie lost by some margin:
I smell a decomposing rat here, and it's making me feel very uneasy...
Debbie (the Sane Progressive) has been doing a great job highlighting this issue, including in her latest video, and perhaps now Bernie's campaign team might actually start defending our votes: Bernie Sanders Must Contest Arizona & Stop Allowing the Theft Of Democratic Primary
And here are the actual results (from CNN), which closely match the exit poll:
Now, on the Democratic side, the Courier reported "Democrats in both locations were trending much more strongly for Sen. Bernie Sanders", with a 62 / 37 vote split.
Any yet, somehow Bernie lost by some margin:
I smell a decomposing rat here, and it's making me feel very uneasy...
Debbie (the Sane Progressive) has been doing a great job highlighting this issue, including in her latest video, and perhaps now Bernie's campaign team might actually start defending our votes: Bernie Sanders Must Contest Arizona & Stop Allowing the Theft Of Democratic Primary
you forgot your home of CT, Biden's home in DE. MD is another southern like state with a huge minority population
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