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PoliGAF 2016 |OT3| You know what they say about big Michigans - big Florida

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gcubed

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your telling me his anti-wallstreet message will hurt him in NY and NJ?

maybe 3 months ago, but with retroactive momentum, he will carry it


"wall street is full of crooks" "wall street should vote for me"
"superdelegates are an atrocity to the democratic process" "superdelegates should vote for me"

its the kind of delusion you need when you already lost but need some kind of excuse to stay
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
NJ/NY aren't white or rural enough for Bernie to have a chance anyway. NYC accounts for such a large percentage of the NY primary vote that he was always dead there.

NYC and the suburbs basically controls the all statewide contests, we're like 60% of the state's population.
 
Ted Cruz = nx controller

LOL, the NX Controller is probably the thing that will make me return to a Nintendo console

NJ/NY aren't white or rural enough for Bernie to have a chance anyway. NYC accounts for such a large percentage of the NY primary vote that he was always dead there.

NYC and the suburbs basically controls the all statewide contests, we're like 60% of the state's population.


Bernie will take the Lake Champlain area, Lake Placid that borders Vermont, Syracuse blablala

Hillary will take from Albany south and all of of NYC (minus Williamsburg, Brooklyn LOL)

NY is Hillary's
 
Typed on a goddamn PS3 controller. It breaks my mind every time I imagine having to do that and include links and pictures. This is coming from a PS3 browser vet from back in the day when it was my primary porn machine.
Maybe he has a PS3 keyboard? That would make it allright.

To this day, I do normally type my replies using DS3 and / or BD remote, and do use video screenshots from PS3 browser (bookmarklet allows me to use remote to pause YT videos at "just the right moment", as can also jump back 2s), but, I have to upload (to Imgur) / edit pictures using my ThinkPad, as Imgur is a no-go in PS3 browser...

However, on occasion, including today, I just post from my ThinkPad, as I was also completing a Harris Poll survey (proving to be a nice earner for some Amazon vouchers :) ).

One of these days, I might also invest in a Logitech Unifying Receiver (~$10), as I bought a Logitech Revue (Google TV), which comes with a rather nice wireless keyboard, that "in theory", should work with my PS3. I hardly use my Revue these days, although I just about managed to get it working to show the last democratic debate at our volunteer office, in combination with an excellent "pot luck" event (first half hour plus didn't go well, as YT stream I found only worked for the National Anthem, but luckily, I found another official private YT stream - can't use video players other than YT, such as on CNN, as Chrome browser can't be updated to latest version...).

P.S. Yeah, I've also heard the Wii U browser is excellent, although, being able to navigate a web site just using a D-Pad (jumps to HTML element (link, input box etc), in direction pressed) is an awesome "couch potato" friendly feature, when it works.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Bernie will take the Lake Champlain area, Lake Placid that borders Vermont, Syracuse blablala

Hillary will take from Albany south and all of of NYC (minus Williamsburg, Brooklyn LOL)

NY is Hillary's

Pretty much. Unless he could find a way to split NYC's vote he was always dead here.
 
Ted Cruz's kids like Melania Trump better than their own dad

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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
That was with Obama taking a big bite out of her minority support too.


I don't understand why some people think that Wall Street is an actual voting constituency. They're probably less than 1% of the population.
Of likely voters? I don't think that's accurate. The Wall Street firms collectively employ upwards of 150k people in the metro area. I'm sure financial services in general is quite well employed. These are older, wealthier, more informed voters, i.e. Not Bernie sanders voters. However they are almost all white!

Personally I know I can't wait to end bernies campaign with a crushing defeat here.
 

Crocodile

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That was with Obama taking a big bite out of her minority support too.


I don't understand why some people think that Wall Street is an actual voting constituency. They're probably less than 1% of the population.

I mean he's not winning the state for all the reasons already mentioned: because NYC et al make up most of the state and is filled with minorities + she was a popular two term senator + the mayor of NYC (popular) and the governor (not popular but not HATED either) have/will endorsed her + she beat Obama there + he has little ground game in NY and its expensive as hell to get started at this point + he hasn't spent years building relationships in the state like Clinton has, etc.

I'm just saying attacking Wall Street while on Wall Street is likely to not be super effective. Also I think you are way lowballing it with 1% (not just Wall Street but all those associated with it in many major way)
 

Brinbe

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Solid speech by Hillary. Her critics will obviously hate it, but whatever. That speech is exactly why she's the best candidate to be POTUS.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy

Eh, this will be meaningless tbh. Most of the machinists won't be able to caucus - and honestly, even a lot of folks at Boeing think the Ex-Im is at best a necessary evil (and are probably more receptive to the pro-union rhetoric of Bernie than Ex-Im). Boeing itself is pretty conservative compared to Seattle (Military-Industrial Complex for the win). I also think Trump may clean up in Washington in the GOP areas as well.

Clinton will be kept afloat in Washington by the non Puget Sound (IE, republican / conservative) parts of the state. Bernie will win decently big (he filled a 20k+ arena last week, where the Sonics used to play); but it is still all more or less meaningless in the long run for the primary.
 
Of likely voters? I don't think that's accurate. The Wall Street firms collectively employ upwards of 150k people in the metro area. I'm sure financial services in general is quite well employed. These are older, wealthier, more informed voters, i.e. Not Bernie sanders voters. However they are almost all white!

Personally I know I can't wait to end bernies campaign with a crushing defeat here.

The other thing is that Wall Street $$$ funds entire cottage industries in NYC. There are all kinds of marketers, caterers, decorators, etc that depend on the big banks to stay in business.
 

gcubed

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The other thing is that Wall Street $$$ funds entire cottage industries in NYC. There are all kinds of marketers, caterers, decorators, etc that depend on the big banks to stay in business.

yup, its not just financial employees, its everyone that benefits from their big business center as well.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
I mean he's not winning the state for all the reasons already mentioned: because NYC et al make up most of the state and is filled with minorities + she was a popular two term senator + the mayor of NYC (popular) and the governor (not popular but not HATED either) have/will endorsed her + she beat Obama there + he has little ground game in NY and its expensive as hell to get started at this point + he hasn't spent years building relationships in the state like Clinton has, etc.

I'm just saying attacking Wall Street while on Wall Street is likely to not be super effective. Also I think you are way lowballing it with 1% (not just Wall Street but all those associated with it in many major way)

Pretty much. If deBlasio was in his corner maybe he could swing it, but our mayor is an even bigger Hillary fanboy than Adam so that was never in the cards.
 

stupei

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Was this already posted?

Sanders: Arizonans waiting 5 hours to vote is 'a disgrace'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/arizona-voting-suppression/index.html

"I take full responsibility for what happened yesterday," said Maricopa County Recorder Helen Purcell Wednesday at a Maricopa County Board of Supervisors meeting.

Purcell, a Republican, initially defended the closings on Tuesday night, telling Fox 10 Phoenix voters could have voted via early ballots rather than risking waiting in line.

There were at least 200 polling stations in 2012 and 400 in 2008, but just 60 open Tuesday, in Maricopa County, the most populated county in Arizona.

The board noted that Pima County, Arizona had 130 sites, more than twice as many as Maricopa County, for one-quarter as many voters.

"That led to ease of voting in the southern part of our state, and disaster in urban Phoenix," they wrote.

Purcell said she's willing to reevaluate the decision.

"We will certainly look at this and see if we need to do something different," she said Tuesday.

So, yeah. Sounds a lot like one kind of voter suppression.

Just not engineered by Democrats like half my facebook feed seems to think.
 
Yep. I've been trying to tell people this is what the Democratic Party has been fighting for years but I guess it's just easier to blame it on Hillary because she won.

Which ignores that Hispanic voters are often the ones hit the hardest by this suppression.
 
What if all of these voter disenfranchisement laws were a long con by Hillary to disenfranchise Bernie?????
What they don't realize is that is what you'd have to believe to think this was orchestrated by her. And to help HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON. Laws enacted by GOP controlled governments.
 
It's like the stupidity you'd have to believe to think she doesn't want to overturn Citizens United. It's a complete lack of historical knowledge on the issue.
 

BanGy.nz

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What if all of these voter disenfranchisement laws were a long con by Hillary to disenfranchise Bernie?????
What if the establishment are purposely disenfranchising her main supporter base to keep the race close, everyone is ignoring Hillary's emails because they're too busy watching the horserace. #Hillary4Prison.
/s

Blaming the DNC for disenfranchising the heart of their own party is... a stretch.
 

PBY

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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 3m3 minutes ago
I think having Jeb's endorsement hurts Lyin' Ted. Jeb spent more than $150,000,000 and got nothing. I spent a fraction of that and am first!
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Some people are so eager to blame THE ESTABLISHMENT for everything that they don't notice the other guys actually trying to destroy them.
 
What if the establishment are purposely disenfranchising her main supporter base to keep the race close, everyone is ignoring Hillary's emails because they're too busy watching the horserace. #Hillary4Prison.
/s

Blaming the DNC for disenfranchising the heart of their own party is... a stretch.

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