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[FiggyCal]

Those washington numbers are looking sick.

F2P. Perfect. From each according to his ability. To each according to his needs.

That's a pretty big stretch, considering you can just buy your way to victory.

 

[sc0la]

For us people living in Washington DC. Yes. Real people live here. It's annoying to be reduced to "inside the beltway" or "the establishment".

Typical establishment response tbh.

 

[Paskil]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ive-results-alaska-hawaii-washington-caucuses

Some pretty piss poor turnout? I know caucuses and all that jazz, plus rural areas being the south, but 100% counted and 5 votes in Garfield county?

 

[excelsiorlef]

Some pretty piss poor turnout? I know caucuses and all that jazz, plus rural areas being the south, but 100% counted and 5 votes in Garfield county?

Cacauses are such a joke.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Seattle is desperate to be Portland, actually.

Yup.

 

[User 85168]

Some pretty piss poor turnout? I know caucuses and all that jazz, plus rural areas being the south, but 100% counted and 5 votes in Garfield county?

eastern washington + democratic + caucus = nobody shows up

outside of Seattle, especially across the Cascades, is extremely conservative.

 

[User 463088]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ive-results-alaska-hawaii-washington-caucuses

So, still at 7%. Count faster with your establishment math!

Hillary is losing by 1,000%.

FUCK.

Some pretty piss poor turnout? I know caucuses and all that jazz, plus rural areas being the south, but 100% counted and 5 votes in Garfield county?

Those are state Delegates not votes. It's a caucus, so raw votes aren't always reported.

 

[Macho Madness]

Some pretty piss poor turnout? I know caucuses and all that jazz, plus rural areas being the south, but 100% counted and 5 votes in Garfield county?

Those counties might as well be in Idaho.

I don't mean to be dismissive but that's essentially what it is. Outside of the urban areas, Washington is not what you think it is. Same with Oregon.

 

[Paskil]

So, still at 7%. Count faster with your establishment math!



FUCK.



Those are state Delegates not votes. It's a caucus, so raw votes aren't always reported.

So then basically, had Hillary gotten the three votes instead of Bernie, she would get that counties delegates? I assume that's how these things work.

 

[CCS]

3% more reporting, Queen gains 3%. At this rate she's going to win 118% of the vote. Checkmate Sanders.

 

[Suikoguy]

3% more reporting, Queen gains 3%. At this rate she's going to win 118% of the vote. Checkmate Sanders.

I'm with Adam, it's just more Establishment math.

 

[User 463088]

So then basically, had Hillary gotten the three votes instead of Bernie, she would get that counties delegates? I assume that's how these things work.

No, if those are state level Delegates, they're awarded proportionally. If a presinct caucus is worth 10 Delegates, and they each get 50% of the vote, they would split the Delegates. They might color it in like Bernie or Hillary won, but it's still proportional.

 

[FiggyCal]

I love this panel on CNN. They're really fun.

 

[royalan]

I love this panel on CNN. They're really fun.

I always love when they have Donna Brazile on.

 

[And_Gignac]

Alaska better pull for that extra 3,6%.

 

[NeoXChaos]

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 1h1 hour ago
Ronald Brownstein Retweeted Mark Murray
In cumulative analysis of 20 exit polls by POS, @HillaryClinton has won 65.6% of Democrats, just 36.9% of indies

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 1h1 hour ago
Great stats from @DavidChalian capture the @SenSanders challenge: on D side all big delegate prizes are diverse states, where he's struggled

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 2h2 hours ago
In remaining states whites in 08 D primary = 70% NY, 64% DE, 53% MD, 52% CA, 59% NJ, 57% NM: top @HillaryClinton targets #WesternSaturday

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 2h2 hours ago
In remaining states whites in 08 D primary: RI 85%, WV 96, KY 89, OR 85, MT 91, SD 89: top @SenSanders targets. Bubble: CT 82, PA 80, IN 78%

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 2h2 hours ago
Wins 4 @SenSanders on #WesternSaturday would extend his streak of taking smaller, mostly white states;but the biggest D prizes r all diverse

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 5h5 hours ago
Given pattern of white support @SenSanders should b strong in RI, WV, KY, OR, MT, NEB, SD + WA. But diverse states r big ones: CA, NY NJ etc

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 5h5 hours ago
Given demographic patterns thru early races @HillaryClinton should be favored in NY, MD, DEL, CA, NJ, NM. Tossups: PA/IN. CT a lean Bern?

Ronald Brownstein ‏@RonBrownstein 5h5 hours ago
Pattern worth noting as D calendar turns: @HillaryClinton has won whites 9/10 Southern states; @SenSanders won whites 8/10 non-south states

Ivysaur do you agree with him on CT?

 

[CCS]

Apart from demographics, one other key variable is registration. Both PA and NY have early registration deadlines, how much of a difference that will make is a tricky question.

 

[Holmes]

She gets 65.6% of Dems and a closed primary in which a large chunk of the state is in the NYC media market is lean Sanders?

 

[Macho Madness]

They essentially tied the white vote in MA, fwiw.

 

[Voysa Reezun]

Seattle is desperate to be Portland, actually.

I love Portland and don't buy into much of the friendly rivalry between the cities, but is this what Oregonians really believe?

Caucusing is fascinating in the sense that you are exposed to some interesting political viewpoints, but I would rather have a primary and mail in my vote.

 

[User 463088]

The problem with listing PA as a tossup is that it ignores where the Democratic votes actually come from. We're talking more diverse areas. The state also has an older population. Looking at any race through only a racial lens makes it hard to get a good picture of who should be stronger.

 

[Officerrob]

Counting raised hands as votes in 2016, shameful

 

[Suikoguy]

Counting raised hands as votes in 2016, shameful

Hillary Voters Double Voting? Find out more tonight on TYT.

 

[RustyNails]

Ivysaur do you agree with him on CT?

All the people that work in Manhattan live in NJ because the nearby areas are too crowded/expensive for families. Not sure about CT though.

 

[Macho Madness]

Snohomish County, the home of the Boeing factory, has one precinct reporting with a 71/28 Bernie margin. Exim Bank doesn't matter much I guess.

 

[Makai]

All the people that work in Manhattan live in NJ because the nearby areas are too crowded/expensive for families. Not sure about CT though.

Other boruoughs are cheap

 

[And_Gignac]

Hillary was dying for Alaska, her endorsement.

But she said NO

Drop out Hillary, game is over.

 

[User 463088]

Hillary was dying for Alaska, her endorsement.

But she said NO

Drop out Hillary, game is over.

You do not get to drag (see what I did there) Alaska's good name through the mud.

 

[VendettaRed07]

CT has the highest black population % of any state in New England at around 11%, so that is a factor that should help Hillary..But, we are also doing horribly economically. Bottom five in terms of population growth; people leaving all the time. I think Bernie's radical economic message resonates more with people here. I feel like it'll be a Michigan like situation. I see him winning here.

 

[CCS]

Hillary looking like she'll be viable with around 20% in Alaska.

Yassss queen, get those 3 delegates :lol

 

[Officerrob]

I dare any of you to take a shot anytime these people on CNN say momentum

 

[Macho Madness]

Aren't viability thresholds different for caucuses? Isn't it 15% for each precinct, and not overall?

 

[Brinbe]

Def hitting those margins he needs. We'll see if she can close things up in Washington.

Gonna be a slog till the 19th.

 

[Holmes]

Aren't viability thresholds different for caucuses? Isn't it 15% for each precinct, and not overall?

Yeah, whether a candidate is viable or not (in a precinct) is already taken into account in the overall result.

 

[User 463088]

Aren't viability thresholds different for caucuses? Isn't it 15% for each precinct, and not overall?

I believe so, yes. If you don't get 15% in that individual caucus, you get no Delegates from it.

 

[CCS]

So far in Washington, there are 4 delegates for other. Any guesses who?

 

[Macho Madness]

So far in Washington, there are 4 delegates for other. Any guesses who?

Those are uncommitted. Means they will go to the state convention and likely be allocated there.

 

[And_Gignac]

But aren't the overall convention-delegates allocated once all the precincts-delegates are reported and "transformed" into percentages?

 

[CCS]

Those are uncommitted. Means they will go to the state convention and likely be allocated there.

Ahh, shame. My money was on the ghost of Joe Biden's run that never was

 

[User 463088]

But aren't the overall convention-delegates allocated once all the precincts-delegates are reported and "transformed" into percentages?

No. The Delegates chosen today will go to to the Legislative District Caucus. Then the county convention. Then some will be selected at the state conventions.

 

[superdeluxe]

Thank goodness for diverse states, if they all had the white pop that Washington does it would be game over.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Reince's answers on "how fucked are you really?" are somehow more pathetic than Trump talking about any policy issue except how big his wall is going to be or how big his penis is.

Q.You've got people in your own party drawing nightmare scenarios of Trump dragging the rest of the party down.

A: Yeah, and how well have all these smart people done for us over the last several presidential elections? How smart are they? All these smart people running around telling everyone what's going to work and what's not going to work — I really don't know where these experts are at. Because we didn't really win in '08, we didn't win in 2012, we barely got through '04 with a popular — still at the time — incumbent president. We know what happened in 2000, '96 wasn't very fun, '92 was no better. So the last time we won with relative ease was 1988. It's not like this suddenly happened. So we have to be really good. All I'm saying is all of the armchair quarterbacking going on is done by a lot of people who haven't really delivered. So I sort of just reject it.

http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepol...is-going-to-happen-b99694734z1-373626071.html

 

[Suikoguy]

No. The Delegates chosen today will go to to the Legislative District Caucus. Then the county convention. Then some will be selected at the state conventions.

Is that different then how primaries' delegates are selected?

 

[RastaMentality]

Thank goodness for diverse states, if they all had the white pop that Washington does it would be game over.

I don't think anyone here would want that many white states.

 

[Officerrob]

Thank goodness for diverse states, if they all had the white pop that Washington does it would be game over.

Washington is the Bernie trifecta, very liberal, very white, and a caucus

 

[Mike M]

Snohomish County, the home of the Boeing factory, has one precinct reporting with a 71/28 Bernie margin. Exim Bank doesn't matter much I guess.

SnoCo isn't exactly a small and unpopulated county ruled by Boeing employees.

 

[Macho Madness]

Alaska called for Bernie by AP. I guess they're waiting for King county to call Washington?

 

[User 463088]

Is that different then how primaries' delegates are selected?

Not that I'm aware of. I believe they're just awarded proportionally by district, with some going at large based on the overall result. It essentially boils down to the same thing, though

 

[RustyNails]

Reince's answers on "how fucked are you really?" are somehow more pathetic than Trump talking about any policy issue except how big his wall is going to be or how big his penis is.



http://m.jsonline.com/news/statepol...is-going-to-happen-b99694734z1-373626071.html

Priebus throwing the RNC under the bus? I guess he's gone full Trump. Ride to valhalla.

 

[Butts-a-plenty]

Washington DC > Washington state.