The Lamonster
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ha, nice. Wonder if he'll bring up the KKK thing. That was probably a big moment for his career.
The article makes it sound like they actually support him, rather than voting for him to screw the GOP in the GE.
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ha, nice. Wonder if he'll bring up the KKK thing. That was probably a big moment for his career.
shinra-bansho
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Oh I see the 46K thing now. 46K people that probably already voted Romney in 2012 and are making it official.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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No, I'm saying that those are the floated options (by the GOPe) to challenge Cruz in 2020 and I'm going through and listing why none of them (other than Haley) have a shot to beat Cruz.
WayneMorse
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It's not just being about conservatism anymore, Trump's rise shows a fundamental shift in the nature of the GOP away from the white nationalism being used as a motivator for poorer voters to support neoliberal policies to being dominated by the white nationalism.
RastaMentality
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https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/708022887521734656
Poor Rubes.
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Also, shitty dem debate numbers because why have two debates in one week:
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I mean, I agree.
That's why people like Cotton and Sasse and Walker (unless Walker can get better at showing how much of a white nationalist he is instead of focusing on how much he hates workers) have no shot.
Yup. They're too powerful to die, but maybe voters will punish them soundly.
Fair. I guess we'll have to see how everything comes out in the end to see if that would've tipped the balance.
Edit: Of course, with momentum and people wanting to feel like they voted for a winner being a thing, maybe we'll never know for sure.
hipsterpants
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Haha, I suppose that is true. I was thinking more of a candidate impacting his or her chance to be nominated.
That's the thing though, we'll never know! And I have to imagine it hurt him among minority or AA voters in other states as well. I think it sends a really bad message about his caring for those voters, regardless of what he says.
Retromelon
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Macho Madness
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Ohio PPP
Obama approval at 45/48
Kasich approval at 54/36
US Senate
Strickland 41
Portman 40
General election match-ups
Clinton 44
Rubio 41
Clinton 45
Cruz 40
Clinton 45
Baby Hand Man 40
Kasich 52
Clinton 37
Sanders 42
Rubio 38
Sanders 44
Baby Hand Man 40
Sanders 44
Cruz 38
Kasich 54
Sanders 34
Sherrod Brown Approve/Disapprove is at 43/33
Obamacare approval is at 41/41
69% support minimum wage over $10/hour
83% support background checks on gun purchases
66% support EPA's clean power plan
24% say they'd like to leave the country if Baby Hand Man is elected
16% say the same about Hillary
Skyline Chili Approve/Disapprove 32/22
Cedar Point 47
Kings Island 22
Obama approval at 45/48
Kasich approval at 54/36
US Senate
Strickland 41
Portman 40
General election match-ups
Clinton 44
Rubio 41
Clinton 45
Cruz 40
Clinton 45
Baby Hand Man 40
Kasich 52
Clinton 37
Sanders 42
Rubio 38
Sanders 44
Baby Hand Man 40
Sanders 44
Cruz 38
Kasich 54
Sanders 34
Sherrod Brown Approve/Disapprove is at 43/33
Obamacare approval is at 41/41
69% support minimum wage over $10/hour
83% support background checks on gun purchases
66% support EPA's clean power plan
24% say they'd like to leave the country if Baby Hand Man is elected
16% say the same about Hillary
Skyline Chili Approve/Disapprove 32/22
Cedar Point 47
Kings Island 22
Holy shiiiiiiit. They are SUCH a centrist state. Also, hnnnnnnnnnnngh at those Strickland numbers. BELIEVE.
OH MY GOD
The Lamonster
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Surprising numbers from Ohio.
SlimySnake
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Diablos.exe
Basileus777
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His ceiling in the primary was always too low for him to win this, Rubio made better sense for a good reason.
I'm really hoping that if Trump takes the nom (and loses), and Ted runs again in 20 he finds himself the new Santorum. Guy who no one really saw as a contender early, randomly takes off and makes a decent showing, but is immediately a joke again in the next cycle among the fresh faces.
I've had my Cruz fill for this lifetime, thanks.
I've had my Cruz fill for this lifetime, thanks.
QuiteWhittle
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Strickland is totally going to lose. I hope Predictit puts up a market for the race eventually.
Macho Madness
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They did and it released a few days ago.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah, I think you win. I was looking for a word that would work with desperate. But had no luck.
Hell is Truth seen too late.
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Kasich could've given the GOP's voters the vast majority of what they wanted. But they wanted a purist, an anti-establishment outsider. Going "too moderate" - even though that "moderate" would've voted their way >90% of the time - was apparently a bridge too far for them. And it will, in all likelihood, cost them dearly.
Hmm.
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Kasich could've given the GOP's voters the vast majority of what they wanted. But they wanted a purist, an anti-establishment outsider. Going "too moderate" - even though that "moderate" would've voted their way >90% of the time - was apparently a bridge too far for them. And it will, in all likelihood, cost them dearly.
Hmm.
You are the wind beneath my wings.
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Coriolanus
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that subliminal message is perfect.
Y'know pidg, one of the things that kinda saddens me, even though it is pretty nice, is how with some of the reg'lars here we can pretty much finish each others sentences and there's often so very little reason to respond to one another, what with we all having a pretty good idea of where the parties are coming from.
even with metsfan becoming hitchens-lite and all.
Black Republican
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To think back in 2012 Kasich had below 30% approval rating
BELIEVE
Basileus777
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Apparently what they wanted was tariffs and a wall. It's tough to argue that they wanted purity when Trump is the front runner, especially as polls show that the Republican electorate sees him as a moderate.
Atomic Playboy
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What they wanted has zero to do with policy. They wanted someone who would say "yup, you're right to be angry, let's focus it." That's the link between Bernie and Trump. You're angry; Wall Street. You're angry; Mexicans. The targets are different but it comes back to justifying the feeling of dissatisfaction that so many people have.
Ohio HATED him over SB5. The fact he can get this popular after that is why his continued career is a serious threat. Don't ever, EVER assume that motherfucker would be even close to moderate. Also butthole lips.
Sherrod Brown for VP? Ohio has more electoral votes than Virginia.
Although I'd rather not pick a popular Senator from a seat we need to hold later if there's alternatives just as good. But it there's no one as good for the ticket as a Senator from Virginia or Ohio I would sacrifice the seat for the Presidency.
Although I'd rather not pick a popular Senator from a seat we need to hold later if there's alternatives just as good. But it there's no one as good for the ticket as a Senator from Virginia or Ohio I would sacrifice the seat for the Presidency.
Basileus777
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No one needs to sacrifice a crucial Senate seat to stop Trump or Cruz.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Your avatar was a nice touch, lmao.
And_Gignac
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Does his model take into account the 40% of the black vote that Sanders got in Michigan?
the arguments trump supporters both on and offline are using to defend him are the same double-edged insults i would use to condemn them
"his campaign manager only attacked that breitbart reporter because he thought she was part of the liberal media!!"
"protesters should know that trump rallies are dangerous places full of hateful people!! therefore its their fault for being assaulted"
"it's not racist to discriminate against muslims because islam isn't a race!!"
its absolutely absurd the lack of self-awareness they have
"his campaign manager only attacked that breitbart reporter because he thought she was part of the liberal media!!"
"protesters should know that trump rallies are dangerous places full of hateful people!! therefore its their fault for being assaulted"
"it's not racist to discriminate against muslims because islam isn't a race!!"
its absolutely absurd the lack of self-awareness they have
Shit, if Trump chooses Kasich for VP, Hilldawg can just choose Castro. Kasich is not an attack dog whatsoever and Castro could definitely hold his own against him. At that point, Hillary just needs to run up the numbers for Hispanics.
Who gives a shit about Ohio if the Dems take VA, NV, CO, and FL?
Roland_Gunner
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Seriously, when was the last time the VP actually changed the race in their home state? Arguably Gore in '92?
Macho Madness
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shinra-bansho
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Has Sherrod Brown actually done anything notable. Also he's a bit older than Kaine.
Cosmo is right. 40 is the new 30.
Wow was it that much?
It was 30%.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
This a a great point. There are a lot of long term positives for picking him too.
Macho Madness
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He's quite popular in a swing state. Who cares about the rest?
shinra-bansho
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Well Hillary could die?
And he'll be 72 @ the 2024 election.
I mean, he could die too.
Hello, President Ryan.
Macho Madness
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CNN sucks
The Lamonster
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How is there still no MO polling...
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