Outdoor Miner
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4 years of being Speaker of the Shitfest will destroy him. Not a 2020 contender.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT8| No, Donald. You don't.
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4 years of being Speaker of the Shitfest will destroy him. Not a 2020 contender.
Good thing he decided to be speaker. If by some insane miracle the dems took the house his career would be over
People were saying this about Ryan before Biden stole his soul.
I think she could have been. She's smart, pretty strong on all types of equality and good looking. I mean, some people in this thread would probably vote for her if she ran for something. But her daddy ruined even that.
I haven't seen the reporting, but I assume it's because they think women are weak minded and easily swayed.
As soon as he agrees to a budget with Hillary, she'll praise him for working hard with her, and his rep will be ruined. Bonus points if she ever gets a photo with him warmly shaking hands or hugging.
This is that left wing echo chamber coming to the front again. Biden didn't destroy his soul. Most of the polls showed a narrow win for Biden in the debate at best, and indeed there was a lot of negative feedback on his performance and how mocking he was. Biden was great at rallying the base in the debate, but it was by no means a massive win nor did he 'steal his soul' - far from it. It picked the party back up after Obama's disasterous first debate, but it in absolutely no way harmed Ryan's long term political chances.
whyamihere
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For the record: Kaine is pretty run of the mill ideologically. He's not Manchin, or even Bayh.
cartoon_soldier
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It is exactly what was needed though. Rally your current coalition, forget about appealing to others. Whys is exactly why Kaine is not a good pick.
The republicans brought theirs forward as a response to what happened to Romney in 2012. You can only start spending your GE raised funds after you formally and legally become the nominee at the convention. Because he ran out of primary funds and because the convention was later in the year it meant that there were several months where Romney had hardly any cash to counter Obama's massive, constant pummelling of him in the battleground states. So they brought it forward so the nominee could unlock their general election funding earlier on in the year.
In terms of order, the party that currently controls the White House goes second - it's a tradition.
Oh yes, absolutely - everyone was so distraught and freaked out after Obama's first debate, we needed someone to go out there and be seen to really *fights* and take on the republicans. After Romney lied and dance around the truth in his debate, we needed someone who would counter that.
My point was just that the 2012 VP debate is often seen in left wing circles as an utter demolition and humiliation of Paul Ryan, and it wasn't. It was fantastic entertainment for us on the left, but it hasn't harmed him at all and wasn't some killer, knock out blow.
B-b-but Kaine will lead to the TPP and wall street takeover!!!11!!! 20 minute video on heres why
CNN just had video from last night of balloons dropping so I highly doubt it.
whyamihere
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Why is the only thing that defines someone as progressive now a commitment to being against TPP?
Roland_Gunner
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Biden's to the right of Kaine by any reasonable measure. Do you just want Clinton to nominate a really loud person? Ed Schultz doesn't seem very busy at the moment.
It's not, you're just being crotchety
gutter_trash
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Clinton needs to lie about TPP now.
She needs to pretend to be against it for the campaign
Who cares at this point
Winning is more important
She needs to pretend to be against it for the campaign
Who cares at this point
Winning is more important
nature boy
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She's smart and diplomatic, but in what way is she inspirational to woman?
Does her fashion brand even register a pulse?
Not to mention how she essentially made up policies that the GOP will never come to.
Yeah, she's only there to soften his image.
"He said and did sexist things, but look at his daughter!"
She's going to, and it will be passed during the lame duck period so she doesn't have to deal with it
The Technomancer
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Its gonna be Kaine
But man I'm really hoping they were playing the long con and they really did just want to punk everyone with a Warren announcement
But man I'm really hoping they were playing the long con and they really did just want to punk everyone with a Warren announcement
Guys, the RNC is all about unity... for the Dems via being terrified of the insane RNC speeches.
Yea I mean realistically what could we expect, she was going to give a glowing speech about her dad
But it made me sad
She could give a speech about her dad without pulling democratic policies out of her ass and claiming he supported them when he's never mentioned them once.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
You know what was not a story?
The protestors outside the RNC.
They were mentioned, but they did not do anything stupid!
Even that went well
You sorta get the sense that she does not really follow Republican politics after reading bits of that speech.
The protestors outside the RNC.
They were mentioned, but they did not do anything stupid!
Even that went well
You sorta get the sense that she does not really follow Republican politics after reading bits of that speech.
Trump alone has probably knocked a few years off his political lifespan. I can't imagine retaining the same enthusiasm for politics after having to not only endorse a man you loathe for president, but also become forced to defend half of his insane rhetoric.
The Technomancer
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As a child of Wisconsin's first congressional district I apologize again for somehow giving the world both Paul Ryan and Reince Priebus
Any time I see Reince Priebus I think of that Onion article. I wish I had a link handy. It's one of the best things they've ever done.
Joe Shlabotnik
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The convention has been over for 12 hours and one assumes that officially being nominated marginally helps one's chances
cartoon_soldier
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Clinton is not Obama.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Just search Reince Priebus Puzzle Box
http://www.theonion.com/article/reince-priebus-forced-back-into-ancient-puzzle-box-29803
Atomic Playboy
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Also, there were tighter polls last week. We'll have to see what kinds of polls come out this week and after the D convention.
I got up this morning and got pretty angry in the shower. It doesn't come up much that I am a second-generation immigrant because nobody has ever before made me feel like I and my daughter would be under threat because of that.
But under Trump we would be personally in danger.
If you're willing to allow a white nationalist to take over America because you are worried about investor-state dispute settlement then you can kick rocks as far as I'm concerned. I will remove you from my professional network on LinkedIn.
I can not wrap my head around why Warren would have agreed to that Colbert bit if she knew she was not the pick.
It does not make any sense to lead people on that way. For either Warren or Clinton's camp. It wasn't something unexpected that Colbert asked her in an interview, it was a planned, rehearsed and staged bit.
I'm sure it's Kaine but that was really really weird.
It does not make any sense to lead people on that way. For either Warren or Clinton's camp. It wasn't something unexpected that Colbert asked her in an interview, it was a planned, rehearsed and staged bit.
I'm sure it's Kaine but that was really really weird.
Bruce Springsteen
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Trump got his swagga back, truth
Just search Reince Priebus Puzzle Box
http://www.theonion.com/article/reince-priebus-forced-back-into-ancient-puzzle-box-29803
Thanks, it's still amazing.
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