Hahaha once he found out the ratings were bad. What a loser
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Megyn Kelly is spamming her Twitter with what looks like pro Hilldawg tweeting. Love it
Roland_Gunner
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Kelly's contract with Fox is nearly up. She could have been there to draw attention to the negotiation. If not, as the most visible woman at a company whose boss was forced out for serial sexual harassment she's pretty much bullet proof at this point.
Felix Lighter
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I've been wondering what Trump would need to do or say for the likes of Paul Ryan and other reluctant Trump endorsers to pull their support. At this point, I can't imagine anything short of a Michael Richard style racist tirade would push those spineless turds over the edge. The recent NATO, Russian espionage encouragement and remarks about Crimea are dangerous things for high profile elected officials to indirectly support. I guess they can just keep endorsing him while condemning all of the proposed policies he vomits out of his mouth.
Convention seemed to go pretty well. Both of the Obamas had the two best speeches by far. Cory Booker was probably third, then a drop off to Clinton and Biden, then the rest. I don't really have any strong feelings about Tim Kaine, but the dude was not a good speaker. At times he was just being, others he seemed really awkward and cringe. He got better by the end though.
I'm optimistic about the Senate, still pessimistic about the House. I'm also hoping the left heeds the words of Obama and Bernie, and stays engaged after the election to force democrats to actually try to enact the platform.
I'm optimistic about the Senate, still pessimistic about the House. I'm also hoping the left heeds the words of Obama and Bernie, and stays engaged after the election to force democrats to actually try to enact the platform.
Joe Shlabotnik
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The only thing that's going to get major endorsers to jump ship now is for Trump to start losing badly.
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My Rank of DNC Speeches That I Can Remember
1. Michelle Obama: the salve that healed the burn. Michelle Obama is a national treasure. The speech was strong and direct in its support of unity and Hillary Clinton, and the message about leaving behind something better for our children resonates as not uniquely American but uniquely human. Her delivery was impeccable. Simply divine.
2. Barack Obama: not much to say that hasnt been said. A generational politician. How he manages to continue to appeal to our better natures despite constantly being subjected to the worst of our country is what makes him truly great.
3. Joe Biden: this was a barnburner if there ever was one. I dont think Ive ever wanted to shout YEAH! AMERICA! more than I did listening to this speech. Its amazing how Biden has helped the Democratic party retake patriotism.
4. Hillary Clinton: undoubtedly the best speech of Hillary Clintons career. Still uncomfortable talking about herself, but incredibly in command of policy and really effective at tearing down Trump. There can be no question now that Hillary is the most progressive presidential nominee running on the most progressive platform in history.
5. Reverend William Barber: uplifting. Just incredibly memorable. This was a religious speech in the true sense of the term religion in the sense that he sought to find the commonality that connects us and binds us all together. The authenticity of this guy was simply infectious. I am a moral defibrillator. I love that this can only happen on the DNC stage.
6. Khizr Khan: this was really unexpected, but unbelievably powerful. You have sacrificed nothing and Have you even read the constitution? are top 10 burns of the convention. Watching his wife stand there silently and solemnly was one of the more difficult things to endure.
7. Bill Clinton: humanized Hillary in all the right ways. The end of his speech contrasting the real Hillary with the cartoon Hillary was classic Bill Clinton. His relatively low rank on the rank here says nothing of what I thought of the speech it was just an incredible week. The best parts of Bills speech, again, were off the cuff. Bill Clinton is a storyteller unlike any other.
8. Cory Booker: what a crescendo! Really built as the turd children quieted down, but he was basically screaming for the first half of the speech. The message was excellent and I think he launched himself into the national conversation. We will rise is great and sounds like Yes we can 2.0.
9. Bernie Sanders: absolutely did what he needed to do. If you dont vote Hillary following his endorsement, youre not a Bernie supporter. Im subconsciously docking him because of how crap his campaign was in selecting delegates at the end but Im also subconsciously boosting him because of how he handled the nomination.
10. Tim Kaine: Tim was hampered by his extremely slow start, but after having heard all the other VP speakers speak, I give him some credit. This didnt connect as well as his Miami speech; obviously Tim has never presented to 10,000+ people. I do think he connects with suburbanites and Twitter absolutely loves the guy. Hard to complain about something that successful.
11. Elizabeth Warren: I still believe she is not really a great public speaker. Her message remains great but she comes across as breathless. I dont think her speeches have a strong natural cadence or rhythm to them. Shes super effective at attacking Trump though so she can continue to do that.
12. Jennifer Granholm: gets a mention just because I think this woman is hilarious.
1. Michelle Obama: the salve that healed the burn. Michelle Obama is a national treasure. The speech was strong and direct in its support of unity and Hillary Clinton, and the message about leaving behind something better for our children resonates as not uniquely American but uniquely human. Her delivery was impeccable. Simply divine.
2. Barack Obama: not much to say that hasnt been said. A generational politician. How he manages to continue to appeal to our better natures despite constantly being subjected to the worst of our country is what makes him truly great.
3. Joe Biden: this was a barnburner if there ever was one. I dont think Ive ever wanted to shout YEAH! AMERICA! more than I did listening to this speech. Its amazing how Biden has helped the Democratic party retake patriotism.
4. Hillary Clinton: undoubtedly the best speech of Hillary Clintons career. Still uncomfortable talking about herself, but incredibly in command of policy and really effective at tearing down Trump. There can be no question now that Hillary is the most progressive presidential nominee running on the most progressive platform in history.
5. Reverend William Barber: uplifting. Just incredibly memorable. This was a religious speech in the true sense of the term religion in the sense that he sought to find the commonality that connects us and binds us all together. The authenticity of this guy was simply infectious. I am a moral defibrillator. I love that this can only happen on the DNC stage.
6. Khizr Khan: this was really unexpected, but unbelievably powerful. You have sacrificed nothing and Have you even read the constitution? are top 10 burns of the convention. Watching his wife stand there silently and solemnly was one of the more difficult things to endure.
7. Bill Clinton: humanized Hillary in all the right ways. The end of his speech contrasting the real Hillary with the cartoon Hillary was classic Bill Clinton. His relatively low rank on the rank here says nothing of what I thought of the speech it was just an incredible week. The best parts of Bills speech, again, were off the cuff. Bill Clinton is a storyteller unlike any other.
8. Cory Booker: what a crescendo! Really built as the turd children quieted down, but he was basically screaming for the first half of the speech. The message was excellent and I think he launched himself into the national conversation. We will rise is great and sounds like Yes we can 2.0.
9. Bernie Sanders: absolutely did what he needed to do. If you dont vote Hillary following his endorsement, youre not a Bernie supporter. Im subconsciously docking him because of how crap his campaign was in selecting delegates at the end but Im also subconsciously boosting him because of how he handled the nomination.
10. Tim Kaine: Tim was hampered by his extremely slow start, but after having heard all the other VP speakers speak, I give him some credit. This didnt connect as well as his Miami speech; obviously Tim has never presented to 10,000+ people. I do think he connects with suburbanites and Twitter absolutely loves the guy. Hard to complain about something that successful.
11. Elizabeth Warren: I still believe she is not really a great public speaker. Her message remains great but she comes across as breathless. I dont think her speeches have a strong natural cadence or rhythm to them. Shes super effective at attacking Trump though so she can continue to do that.
12. Jennifer Granholm: gets a mention just because I think this woman is hilarious.
Word on the street is Kelly is looking to jump to CNN
Another cop was shot last night, so that was Fox's main story while I was listening. It was Obama's fault, didn't focus on cops at the DNC, cops leave behind wives and children, vote Hillary for more cop killing, etc.
Judge Jeannie is such a string of bad words I can't use in polite company.
Judge Jeannie is such a string of bad words I can't use in polite company.
shinra-bansho
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The ridiculous flags, giant letters, weird imperial setting of the Trump Convention. Completely with the shadowy secret servicemen at either side.
Contrast with the bright and cheerful DNC.
Maybe commented on before, but the relationship between Clinton and Kaine, and the genuine affinity is also a major contrast.
Trump's toxicity is real, especially on grads and postgraduate.
Anecdotal, but I can tell you my lifelong Republican father and stepmother are voting for Hillary. They don't like it but they also 100% know it is the right thing to do. Two of my friends are lifelong apathetics registering to vote against Trump, and will be proud if this is the only election they ever vote in.
The cross the spectrum intellectual hatred of Trump is a huge opportunity. And Democrats managed to appeal to own their base and to the people abandoned by Republicans in the best possible way. Obviously this group isn't a majority of the GOP. But it also knows the right thing to do this election, even if they don't like it. Hope we see this tip after that convention. Because, seriously.
What a fucking convention.
TestOfTide
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No love for "We Will Rise" from Booker?
balladofwindfishes
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I hope the ratings blew Trump out of the water
I want to feel the sodium flowing through my veins
I want to feel the sodium flowing through my veins
nature boy
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Glorious.
Trump, Clinton in virtual tie in Missouri
MO WH'16 poll (Mason-Dixon): Clinton 41, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 1
Trump, Clinton in virtual tie in Missouri
MO WH'16 poll (Mason-Dixon): Clinton 41, Trump 40, Johnson 9, Stein 1
What can you expect? $6 million budget shortfall means they couldn't even afford China-made props for the stage or the audience lol
Kos put up a fun short piece about the audience signage
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...ratic-stagecraft-kicks-Republicans-in-the-ass
bangbang i'm a timpani
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is this good or bad for clinton
Missouri is supposed to be a safe state for Trump.
Veritigo_X
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Missouri is supposed to be a safe red state. It went blue for Bill, but other than that it is solid red.
A bit surprising. There was another recent poll showing him up comfortably, so I'd guess the truth is somewhere in-between. It'd be nice if Team Hillary had another state where Trump is forced to spread himself even thinner.
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And that "I just showed-up, it's not my fault" line from Trump seems perfect for what we'll hear out of him on November 9th.
I loved the ending. He's really leaning into the dad meme.
Got the Shakes
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Well the Trump campaign released their official statement on Hillary's speech last night.
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157391345450725
TRUMP CAMPAIGN STATEMENT ON CLINTON'S ACCEPTANCE SPEECH
Hillary Clintons speech was an insulting collection of clichés and recycled rhetoric. She spent the evening talking down to the American people shes looked down on her whole life.
Hillary Clinton talks about unity, about E Pluribus Unum, but her globalist agenda denies American citizens the protections to which they are all entitled tearing us apart. Her radical amnesty plan will take jobs, resources and benefits from the most vulnerable citizens of the United States and give them to the citizens of other countries. Her refusal to even say the words Radical Islam, or to mention her disaster in Libya, or her corrupt email scheme, all show how little she cares about the safety of the American people.
Its a speech delivered from a fantasy universe, not the reality we live in today.
Hillary Clinton says America is stronger together. But in Hillary Clintons America, millions of people are left out in the cold. She only stands together with the donors and special interests whove bankrolled her entire life. Excluded from Hillary Clintons America are the suffering people living in our inner cities, or the victims of open borders and drug cartels, or the people whove lost their jobs because of the Clintons trade deals, or any hardworking person who doesnt have enough money to get a seat at Hillary Clintons table.
Edit: if someone already posted this I apologize
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157391345450725
TRUMP CAMPAIGN STATEMENT ON CLINTON'S ACCEPTANCE SPEECH
Hillary Clintons speech was an insulting collection of clichés and recycled rhetoric. She spent the evening talking down to the American people shes looked down on her whole life.
Hillary Clinton talks about unity, about E Pluribus Unum, but her globalist agenda denies American citizens the protections to which they are all entitled tearing us apart. Her radical amnesty plan will take jobs, resources and benefits from the most vulnerable citizens of the United States and give them to the citizens of other countries. Her refusal to even say the words Radical Islam, or to mention her disaster in Libya, or her corrupt email scheme, all show how little she cares about the safety of the American people.
Its a speech delivered from a fantasy universe, not the reality we live in today.
Hillary Clinton says America is stronger together. But in Hillary Clintons America, millions of people are left out in the cold. She only stands together with the donors and special interests whove bankrolled her entire life. Excluded from Hillary Clintons America are the suffering people living in our inner cities, or the victims of open borders and drug cartels, or the people whove lost their jobs because of the Clintons trade deals, or any hardworking person who doesnt have enough money to get a seat at Hillary Clintons table.
Edit: if someone already posted this I apologize
MORE BLOOD I DEMAND MORE BLOOD
Vestal
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If this tendency holds and Republicans need to play defense in FUCKING MISSOURI and UTAH of all places, its over.
I know it sounds overly dramatic, but when you look at the electoral college and how the paths to 270 are set, losing either state for the Rs is the kiss of death.
Interesting article on why the Reuters poll changed drastically recently (it was not because of the RNC) and what they expect to happen.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
They are also probably scrambling for cash
Got the Shakes
Member
19.9 overnight rating for night 4 of the DNC and HRC's acceptance speech. -4% lower than the 20.8 for night 4 of the RNC.
The four nights of the DNC averaged an 18.6 in the major markets, +11% better than the 16.7 for the four nights of the RNC
Top markets for Hillary's acceptance:
West Palm
Richmond
New York
Hartford
Philadelphia
Ft. Myers
Washington
Nashville
Albuquerque
Vegas
Source
https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/759014736373493760
https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/759015129992179713
https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/759015778876219397
The four nights of the DNC averaged an 18.6 in the major markets, +11% better than the 16.7 for the four nights of the RNC
Top markets for Hillary's acceptance:
West Palm
Richmond
New York
Hartford
Philadelphia
Ft. Myers
Washington
Nashville
Albuquerque
Vegas
Source
https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/759014736373493760
https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/759015129992179713
https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/759015778876219397
shinra-bansho
Member
Trump is going to crow about this.
FUCK.
FUCK.
Too bad about the ratings. Still a good show overall.
We're healing. Sandy Hook School Opens To Public, 4 Years After Massacre Of 26 [TPM].
We're healing. Sandy Hook School Opens To Public, 4 Years After Massacre Of 26 [TPM].
DrForester
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Trump goes on a Twitter tirade about Hillary's nomination...
Remember what McCain did after Obama was nominated?
Remember what McCain did after Obama was nominated?
Obama did come within a few thousand votes of winning in 2008.
I think Clinton/Kaine will do a little better in MO than 2012 Obama.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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shinra-bansho
Member
Hillary cancelled. Trump renewed.
I remember that of McCain, and thought that was closer to his true character. Too bad he has to court an insane base.
He's referring to the slightly better final day ratings.
He'll make up for it with New York, duhhhh
I'm still dreaming we can make Georgia blue. I'm so hopeful that decency will overwhelming defeat hate
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
God-King Obama changed everyone's minds already
Well, of course. McCain, for all his faults, was ultimately an honorable person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrnRU3ocIH4
He shut down that idiotic element within his own party. While Trump has done nothing but encourage it. It's how far down that hole the GOP has gone in the past eight years.
Basileus777
Member
It was close in 2000 and Obama lost it by the thinnest of margins in 2008. It's the Romney state most likely to flip other than North Carolina or Arizona.
NYCmetsfan
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Lol this Trump surrogate is doubling down on Russia hacking.
"He's not saying he wants people to hack he's saying people already hacked and we want them release them"
"He's not saying he wants people to hack he's saying people already hacked and we want them release them"
Guess the whole "it's a joke" spin want working.
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