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PoliGAF 2016 |OT8| No, Donald. You don't.

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Non-white voters (CNN):

Clinton fave: 61/32
Trump fave: 9/88 !
2-way: HRC 83%, Trump 12%
4-way: HRC 72%, Johnson 8%, Stein 8%, Trump 7% !

His favorable rating is single digits.

Let that sink in. Single. Fucking. Digits.

He's going to be Barry Goldwater but in stead of just AAs, it will be all minorities.

The Dems are going to get 90% of Asian-American, 95% African American, 80%+ Hispanic, 80%+ Jewish, 90%+ Muslim,and shit, probably 30%+ Mormon (yes, they're white but they're a specific religious minority politically and rarely vote Democrat).

This is pretty amazing stuff.
 
Not good enough. Trump must not only lose but be destroyed so hard that his father retroactively disowns him. This loss needs to transcend spacetime.

This isn't 1988 or 1992. The biggest thing to a blowout you're going to get is short of Obama's 2008 rout.
 

Kusagari

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Hillary isn't going to win Indiana but she has both Utah and Georgia as possible flips right now that Obama didn't get in 08.

Arizona is looking less and less likely to me. No poll backs it up.
 
Hillary isn't going to win Indiana but she has both Utah and Georgia as possible flips right now that Obama didn't get in 08.

Arizona is looking less and less likely to me. No poll backs it up.

Is it possible that Hispanic Americans are under-sampled in the polls? I don't expect it to flip either, but hopefully the results are a lot closer than what's indicated in the polls.
 

TheFatOne

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Man it just seems like bizarro world to me that the Democrats have become the party of patriotism. Still can't wrap my brain around it.
 

Goodstyle

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I wish Hillary would come up with a better response to the e-mail question that isn't just straight up lying. Thank God for Trump being a fucking idiot, this could have been a disaster.
 
zomg this sexual harassment quote from Trump.

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ampere

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Non-white voters (CNN):

Clinton fave: 61/32
Trump fave: 9/88 !
2-way: HRC 83%, Trump 12%
4-way: HRC 72%, Johnson 8%, Stein 8%, Trump 7% !

His favorable rating is single digits.

Let that sink in. Single. Fucking. Digits.

Somebody has to be fourth. He'll be the best fourth you ever saw, the greatest fourth. The first fourth.
 

TopDreg

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I'm thinking about what would have happened if Bernie won the nomination. It would have been harder, arguably impossible, to make Democrats the party of patriotism. The attack by Khzir Khan wouldn't work so well. We wouldn't be able to effectively link Trump with Putin. We, instead, would be the party of 'communism'. Bloomberg wouldn't come on-stage to speak. We dodged a bullet, and instead harnessed a kryptonite suit.

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Teggy

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I need to be talked off the ledge with this one.

Michael Tracey ‏@mtracey 28m28 minutes ago
USC/LA Times poll consistently shows Trump with an outlier-ish lead https://election.usc.edu/ For what it's worth, they nailed 2012 pop vote

@teggygah 10m10 minutes ago
@mtracey This is the same methodology used in 2012?

Michael Tracey
‏@mtracey
@teggygah Maybe with some tweaks but yeah it's the same people
 
Buffet also talked about his site http://www.drive2vote.org/

Pledges to take 10 people who couldn't get to the polls to get there and setup this site to help people connect and assist people get out to vote. Goal of splitting the state's EV and getting the highest participation rate of any US district.
 

Crayons

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Whenever someone says something about how they aren't going to vote for Hillary because "They're both the same" I just want to fucking slap the shit out of them, oh my god.

It makes me so angry. Yes, we get it, you are going to stay home and let America turn into white nationalism: the country. And if Trump won you'd whine about it anyway despite NOT VOTING

I had another friend tell me today she wasn't going to vote because Bernie should've won and how Clinton is only winning because she's a woman and I''m like DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF?
 

Oceanwind

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Non-white voters (CNN):

Clinton fave: 61/32
Trump fave: 9/88 !
2-way: HRC 83%, Trump 12%
4-way: HRC 72%, Johnson 8%, Stein 8%, Trump 7% !

His favorable rating is single digits.

Let that sink in. Single. Fucking. Digits.
Wow, that's incredible. I wonder what his favorables are among non-white women. Maybe less than 5%?
 

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The Autumn Wind
Listening to Warren Buffett talking about driving people to the polls gave me an idea. Would it be allowed for the Clinton campaign to team up with Uber/Lyft and distribute free ride promo codes if you're going to a polling station?
 
I need to be talked off the ledge with this one.

The so-called lead is there because it's mostly still part of the RNC bump. Their polling lags fully by 7 days.

We won't know til the weekend where their poll stands post DNC.

Also, these guys did RAND last time but RAND hasn't gone anywhere, they're still doing polling. These are some of the guys and the tweaks they did might have made it worse?
 
I need to be talked off the ledge with this one.

gonna call bullshit on that phrasing, given that the only usc/la times poll i can find from 2012 was in mid-august and it was 2 points off

what they mean is they did RAND, but even then it's not the same methodology
 

mo60

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Hillary isn't going to win Indiana but she has both Utah and Georgia as possible flips right now that Obama didn't get in 08.

Arizona is looking less and less likely to me. No poll backs it up.

I wouldn't count out Indiana just yet because if it looks like trump is going to do really awful in the midwest on election day and Pence has issues appealing to people in that state because people really hate him I can see hilary winning that state by 1%-3%.
 
Now-cast always felt like something to catch red flags in their model when now-cast and polls-plus failed to start converging in October. Everything was fine until someone at Buzzfeed saw it on a monitor while eating pizza with Nate and went "you should probably share that with people", unleashing horrors to social media unknown to myth or legend.
 
Now-cast always felt like something to catch red flags in their model when now-cast and polls-plus failed to start converging in October. Everything was fine until someone at Buzzfeed saw it on a monitor while eating pizza with Nate and went "you should probably share that with people", unleashing horrors to social media unknown to myth or legend.

Agree it's a mistake.

It's also worth saying that the polls-plus model has been pretty consistent throughout but is now widening, that's the one to watch on 538.

Don't really get the 538 hate, I think their coverage has been excellent. Have especially enjoyed the podcasts.

But of course it's better to visit lots of sites and not just one.
 


David Rothschild ‏@DavMicRot 15m15 minutes ago
David Rothschild Retweeted Nate Silver
Welcome @FiveThirtyEight's (secondary?) forecast back to world of reasonable forecasts! You have been on wild ride!

https://twitter.com/DavMicRot/status/760235713509986304

Sam Wang Retweeted
(((Will Cubbison))) ‏@wccubbison 39m39 minutes ago
@williamjordann @sleavitt1 the now cast is like if huffpo's average got drunk and started swinging wildly at people. exists for clicks
 

Gruco

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We're basically back to where we were a month ago.
Mostly, but email blowback already factored in, Trump missed the last chance to pivot, and the Khan wars will probably continue to push this down into next week.

This isn't 1988 or 1992. The biggest thing to a blowout you're going to get is short of Obama's 2008 rout.
I am not sure this is 100% true. I still think there is a chance that Trump could completely fall apart and be abandoned by the party. If polling gets any worse, and he keeps creating horror shows for the party, Senate candidates are going to have a hard time dancing around denouncing him. He is already getting dangerously close to this scenario. The possibility of a recovery in his numbers has been the main thing holding the flood back.

Even then I think his floor is like 38% or something.
 
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