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PoliGAF 2016 |OT8| No, Donald. You don't.
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I do basically think this is somewhat true. Trump can be offensive. He can be sociopathic. He can be dishonest. None of this stuff hurts his particular appeal.
But it is actually kind of deflating to his base for him to be a national joke. Winners don't get mocked.
Yes, I agree completely.
They doubled down on nearly everything terrible today, but -- it was just a double down.
This is new, sexy, and kills the one humanizing moment of the whole day that was not dominated by fear mongering.
Importantly, it's not just about Trump being all of those terrible things. It's about the Trump camp being incompetent regarding the people they are demonizing.
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So today.....
We had a floor fight over the rules.
Two state delegations walked out.
They called for the Democratic nominee to be in prison.
A woman literally accused Hillary of murder.
They had to literally pick up Bob Dole.
They spent 29 minutes doing a play by play of Benghazi.
No one mentioned the Vice President candidate who was sitting right fucking there.
Trump entered like a fucking tool.
And to top it off, she stole her speech from Michelle "Whitey Tape" Obama.
And it's day one.
We had a floor fight over the rules.
Two state delegations walked out.
They called for the Democratic nominee to be in prison.
A woman literally accused Hillary of murder.
They had to literally pick up Bob Dole.
They spent 29 minutes doing a play by play of Benghazi.
No one mentioned the Vice President candidate who was sitting right fucking there.
Trump entered like a fucking tool.
And to top it off, she stole her speech from Michelle "Whitey Tape" Obama.
And it's day one.
excelsiorlef
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Slaaaaaaaayed
Black Mamba
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Do did the speechwriter actually plagiarize or is it actually a DNC troll?
Are we sure trump isn't being conned?
Are we sure trump isn't being conned?
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As of a few minutes ago, she claimed she wrote it herself. The campaign confirmed that earlier. It's going to be on the Today Show.lol
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Officerrob
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Is this a fucking joke?
Wait wait she's still claiming she wrote it? As in, this is a new statement that came out after all this happened?
edit: O-oh... uh... ????
This makes zero sense.
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Uh.... That's not an answer.
They literally have to be the stupidest people alive to think this will help.
Dubbedinenglish
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Wait, what?
I can't even identify the statement here. This says she didn't write it herself, right? Her writing team took fragments of her life.
Trump's dependence on ghost writers is really going to be a problem for him at this rate.
RustyNails
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Her life's inspirations = Michelle Obama
Fragments that reflected her own thinking = plagiarized stuff
Its a bad attempt at explaining the plagiarism but an attempt nonetheless
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I mean those are definitely words. They form thoughts. Those thoughts make no fucking sense...but ya. Okay
Officerrob
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Why is this so difficult? Jump on the fucking grenade, fire somebody, and put it behind you
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Because that requires a trait Trump lacks. He cannot let anything go.
Whoever approved that release is fucking stupid, because you've managed to make the whole thing even more confusing.
Also the statement seems to just quote somebody else speaking in its entirety.
DataStream
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Man, I wish Real Time was starting tonight.
This is going to be a wild week. Even more of a mess than I imagined.
This is going to be a wild week. Even more of a mess than I imagined.
And remember to always say "you're welcome" so someone says " thank you"
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Woah what I miss? Plagiarism? How bad was it, we talking wholesale copying or just so similar it can't be coincidental?
Haha. Same reaction.
It's pretty fucking blatant.
It both starts and ends abruptly, as if they lifted a fragment from a different, complete statement.
Dubbedinenglish
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I just want to remind everyone, Paul Ryan put his full support behind this campaign. May we never forget it.
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Ha ha, yeah I just read the side-by-side, yikes. The lead in is a little different in each but after that it's nearly identical.
Barro on Twitter also pointing out that once again this speaks to character and competence.
Trump can't even hire a speechwriter that doesn't deliberately rickroll him, plagiarize a big chunk and ruin his wife's big speech. But hiring good people is literally the thing he says he will do in order to fix America.
Also it is basically worse to lie about dumb irrelevant stuff than it is to lie about serious things. Anybody can be pressured by the exigency of circumstances into claiming that they didn't kill Vince Foster. Most people wouldn't bother lying about whether they wrote their speech in order to steal credit from their own employees. That reflects a more fundamental dishonesty.
Trump can't even hire a speechwriter that doesn't deliberately rickroll him, plagiarize a big chunk and ruin his wife's big speech. But hiring good people is literally the thing he says he will do in order to fix America.
Also it is basically worse to lie about dumb irrelevant stuff than it is to lie about serious things. Anybody can be pressured by the exigency of circumstances into claiming that they didn't kill Vince Foster. Most people wouldn't bother lying about whether they wrote their speech in order to steal credit from their own employees. That reflects a more fundamental dishonesty.
neurosisxeno
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22 of 26 consecutive words are the same. It would be blatant in any academic setting, and is pretty obvious to anyone that sees them side-by-side.
Preview of Donald Trump's speech: "I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation."
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What's bizarre to me is that it's such a universal idea that should take no effort to write, "My parents taught me to work hard, respect others, and do what's right", and yet they still felt the need to copy passages without any editing/rewording. How lazy can you get?
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CNN saying the Trump campaign is going to just ignore it and pretend it's nothing.
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Mess *airhorn*
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