That's basically within moe though, looks ok
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!
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That's basically within moe though, looks ok
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Demo breakdowns? I need to see if working class lions are breaking for Harambe by the same margins as YouGov and Marist. K. Thnx.
She is the only one who has money to.
Depends on how hard the Mormons abandon Trump. I'm trying to see how many Mormon voters there are in the US, but I can't find it
I actually am not surprised by any except the bolded. He might actually end up in jail for that
Y'all talked about this?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/index.html
Kasich is straight up confirming the VP offer rumors, lol
Trump is a mess
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/index.html
Kasich is straight up confirming the VP offer rumors, lol
Trump is a mess
I'm pretty sure the bold is blackmail...
I filled in the Electoral prediction map, went pretty ambitious. Georgia going blue!
Yup, this is likely a map of the reality this year too. Johnson might have a shockingly high performance because of Trump being a once-in-a-lifetime bad candidate, but they are polling way above what people will actually vote
Yeah it's just a matter of getting good evidence to convict
Yup, this is likely a map of the reality this year too. Johnson might have a shockingly high performance because of Trump being a once-in-a-lifetime bad candidate, but they are polling way above what people will actually vote
Yeah it's just a matter of getting good evidence to convict
Box of Kittens
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One of the things I miss about living in Wisconsin is being able to go to a farmers market every weekend and get some absolutely incredible cheese. Whenever we find ourselves up there we make sure to stock up on our favorites, like 7 year aged cheddar.
Trump does not want to do any work
If he were president, he'd want to be:
And have some nerds do all the policy stuff
There was a post a couple of pages back comparing NV polling with election results for Obama.
It seems like NV polling is tricky exactly because of the high Hispanic population.
And all that fraud
Agreed.
Also, Mook was Clinton's Nevada primary chair in 08 and organized the shit out of it. He pulled off a crucial win against Bernie again this year. It is probably the most important personal win for him and I strongly doubt Trump will be able to top him organizational prowess there.
I literally just posted about this two pages ago!
Romney's voters in Colorado were white-collar whites. Trump is losing those, so he's no longer competitive in Colorado.
Romney's voters in Nevada were blue-collar whites. Trump has kept all of those, so Nevada looks the same as 2012.
I don't think it's IN DANGER, as the RCP link showed, it looks like 2012 and Obama won that by 6. But it isn't moving towards Hillary as quickly as states with higher percentages of white-collar whites.
Hahahaha. Oh wow...that's amazing.
I'm going to keep my hype in check. You never know when Hillary is going to screw up and allow Trump to swoop in. Or Trump drops out and then they replace it with someone competent and everyone falls back behind that individual again.
She's still a warhawk and doesn't understand technology.
She's still a warhawk and doesn't understand technology.
augh. This election has gone on for WAY TOO FUCKING LONG. Just end it already!
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Right, but if we're talking small-scale local elections, like to your local municipal government, there's not really any room for ideology to come into the solutions. The amount of money you get is usually pre-determined, large parts of your spending are usually pre-determined, and the role is largely administrative. Local elections are also often extremely noncompetitive because the districts are very small and therefore very likely to be homogenous. If you're the sort of committed ideologue who felt they had to exit the two-party system, you're not going to sign up to the sort of position that then gives you absolutely no ability or likelihood to exercise your ideology.
Honestly, I don't think the Libertarians are any better at this than the Greens, despite the claims in this thread. Most libertarians are, to normal people, weird as fuck. The Libertarians are lucky in that they have a mainstream candidate who was de facto forced out of his own party but wanted to continue in politics - sort of the equivalent of Bernie Sanders actually have dropped out of the Democrats to join the Greens as a protest against how the Democratic Party treated him/after being thrown out of the Democrats in an alternate timeline. Then you end up with someone who has to have faced at least some of the political drudgery before ending up in the party that almost by definition drives people who could do it well away. Without Johnson, the Libertarians would sink (even further) into mediocrity.
Shorter pigeon:
nature boy
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WTF, people are diablosing over NV and CO? FFS, GA or NC has more electoral votes.
I agree totally about the libertarians, without Johnson they'd get stuck with someone like Vermin Supreme. He's the only reason that party is getting the look it is this cycle.
I wouldn't discount local issues at the federal level either though. Ideology has it's place, but you still need to tailor your message to the community you're running in. A House candidate in Queens is going to run on a different platform than one in Staten Island, even if they're in the same party. People want someone who, to paraphrase Bill Clinton, feels their pain. It's about letting the voters know you care about what's going on with them, that's how you win elections.
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I agree; but this is one of the reasons why small parties will never do well. Most people are willing to suck it in and vote for the two big parties regardless, because of the strategic consequences of not doing so. If I was in Florida, I would be fighting so damn hard for Clinton right now, and y'all know that generally I'm pretty apathetic about her. To end up in a small party, you therefore have to be really, really into whatever concerns you have that this big party doesn't have, and if they don't have it, it is probably a pretty small concern in whatever area you're running. What does a Green have to say about, I don't know, Staten Island's rubbish collection that is materially different to that of a Democrat?
Like, the Greens aren't terrible just because of misfortune giving them bad candidates. They're terrible because the US electoral system is designed in such a way that any third party is highly likely to be terrible (in fact such a way that all parties are likely to be pretty terrible, but that's another issue).
Mind you, if I was in a non-swing state I'd 100% vote Libertarian (presidential only, not local). Not because I like them, but because if they reached 5% and got federal funding, that would make it even harder for the Republicans to ever recover. By contrast voting Democrat in Texas or whatever is pointless.
We need immediate polls of MA & IL
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pigeon gonna get that paper
u might have no teeth
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just like ur punchlines
Cesare Borgia
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Anyone want to bet that Trump will announce his own news network sometime in 2017, with Roger Alies and Sean Hannity on board?
lol, this will happen in November.
They will even spin it as "needing a serious news source to look into the rigging of the election".
RastaMentality
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Hopefully that'll keep his crazies on board in the party for whichever nut he endorses in the 2020 primary.
A) Harambe memes stopped being funny like 0.5 seconds after they started
B) Who the fuck is Vermin Supreme? That legitimately sounds like the name of a Marvel supervillian.
C) Is there anyway we can get some legislation to make our election season not like 16+ months? It's fucking stupid the way they are. I dunno if my body can take (God willing) 12+ more of these election cycles.
B) Who the fuck is Vermin Supreme? That legitimately sounds like the name of a Marvel supervillian.
C) Is there anyway we can get some legislation to make our election season not like 16+ months? It's fucking stupid the way they are. I dunno if my body can take (God willing) 12+ more of these election cycles.
If Murdoch's kids really do want to move FOX more toward the center like the rumors suggest then there would certainly be room for Trump to get such a thing off the ground.
1. Harambe jokes, as done in PoliGAF, are always going to be funny, because they make fun of the people who actually care about it.
2. This is Vermin Supreme:
(I'm not kidding)
3. I'm right there with you. There's no reason for this shit to go on this long. A year should be more than enough.
People been saying that. That this whole mess was just a lead in to the Trump channel. Question is who would back it?
DrForester
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You know, after the world not blowing up, I think the #2 reason I want to see Trump lose if for the epic meltdowns.
nature boy
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BAHAHAHA.
Trump's speech after the election will be, "THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE HOW THE FUCK DID I LOSE?"
If Social media counted all that much, Bernie would be God Emperor for life.
So these people are idiots who have no idea how polling samples work, good to know.
Obviously this person completely made the whole thing up, I just found it hilarious what their concept of a good poll is
IIRC there was an exit clause tied to Ailes.
BlastProcessing
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Russia.
It's fake, I know, but what could they possibly be grad students in?
Tarkus
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The bitter tears at freerepublic will be delicious
It's tough to live in an America where the people wanted the black guy to be president twice, and liked him enough to vote in the she-devil afterwards. Insane fantasy world must seem like a much better option.
Its just SO OBVIOUS that they're both terrible.
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