BoogieWoogie
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I just cannot wrap my head around what McConnell's end goal is. Throw out every possible healthcare idea and hope one sticks? That'll just shine a big spotlight on how fucked up the GOP is right now.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house
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I think at this point, he wants to get to a point where they can vote, and then vote it down, if need be. Just to say he tried.
Box of Kittens
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I'm not about to play the "Candidate X can't win" game, but Delphi Analytica is a pollster with no track record with a website that's barely a month old. And by website, I mean amateurish blog riddled with grammatical errors. They don't even give enough information on their methodology to know if this is a real poll, and 44% undecided is not the sign of a quality poll.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Need an explanation?
Right there. Trust me: this is a winnable race for Kid Rock. The primary is crowded, so the Trump effect could take place again. Rural voters will show up out of the woodwork for him. He's still huge everywhere north of Grand Rapids. It's bizarre.
Edit: I'd be saying this whether or not we had a poll at this point. Michigan is crazy.
So I'm assuming most here saw the most recent Trump tweet?
I always thought of a tweet like that to be the ace in his sleeve... i.e. try to rally his supporters to put pressure on the party. Can't imagine he will have any leverage with Republicans at all if his pleas are mostly ignored.
I always thought of a tweet like that to be the ace in his sleeve... i.e. try to rally his supporters to put pressure on the party. Can't imagine he will have any leverage with Republicans at all if his pleas are mostly ignored.
benicillin
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No link to actual poll.
No link to methodology.
No homepage, just Donald Trump picture.
Claims to do "Public policy polling" - actually has two polls, both with negative Dem results.
Appears to have been in business for a couple months.
Ya'll are going crazy in here.
RustyNails
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Yup, junk pollster or not, democrats should not be popping any champagne over him.
Poodlestrike
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If 2016 has any real, permanent lessons for us, it's that Republican primary voters everywhere but Virginia (where boringness is a virtue) will pick the worst candidate they can, and that the rest of the party will show up to vote for them in November, no matter how reluctantly that may be. So I'd expect Kid Rock to win that primary, and I'd expect basically on-par turnout with the rest of the country for him amongst Republicans.
Now, I don't think he'll WIN, but still.
Now, I don't think he'll WIN, but still.
If that were the case, he would have brought it to a vote already.
Mitch wants this to come to a vote, and he wants this to pass, because he's a bitter and bullish old man aware that his reputation is now attached to the passage of this bill.
He will make his fellow Republicans walk the plank, vote on a bill that most of them want nothing to do with, and rob the people of his own state of their healthcare, all because of his fragile and pathetic ego.
IggyChooChoo
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The obvious solution is to convince Violent J or Shaggy 2 Dope to enter the race and split the moron vote.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This is exactly what I'm thinking:
But then again I've expected this every week since the election so ... any day now!
Also:
|OT 5| Give me one treason to stay here, and I'll turn right back around
But then again I've expected this every week since the election so ... any day now!
Also:
|OT 5| Give me one treason to stay here, and I'll turn right back around
Box of Kittens
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There is no evidence of a physical address for this company. No one's real name is attached to these blog posts, just "Delphi Analytica Team." Their blog, which is practically impossible to navigate, is one of the few pieces of evidence they even exist. No physical address, name, or phone number is provided for contact, only an email address. There's also a Twitter account that supposedly belongs to someone named Ben who works there. "Ben" gives no last name, but as least there is a location of Lubbock, TX. But searching for a Delphi Analytica in Lubbock (or just in Texas) doesn't seem to lead anywhere, and why haven't they done any polling of Texas (although their blog is so hard to navigate that it would be hard to find any such poll)? The Twitter account is also a month old and appears to consist entirely of retweets of the Drudge Report. Then there's a few Medium pieces attributed to them that are basically just copies of what's available on their blog.
But their website does have this insightful article on Partisanship and the Russia-Trump Investigation.
Let me save you the click, that's the entirety of the article. There's also a link to a post titled "Majority of voters don't trust Special Counsel to be fair to President Trump" but it's broken.
Yeah, unless I see some solid evidence this firm even exists, I'm going to assume this poll is fabricated and Delphi Analytica is literal fake news.
EDIT: I missed the part where the blog post for the poll can't decide if the firm is "Delphi Analytica" or "Delta Analytica."
But their website does have this insightful article on Partisanship and the Russia-Trump Investigation.
Let me save you the click, that's the entirety of the article. There's also a link to a post titled "Majority of voters don't trust Special Counsel to be fair to President Trump" but it's broken.
Yeah, unless I see some solid evidence this firm even exists, I'm going to assume this poll is fabricated and Delphi Analytica is literal fake news.
EDIT: I missed the part where the blog post for the poll can't decide if the firm is "Delphi Analytica" or "Delta Analytica."
Yeah.
I live in Michigan, and I haaaaaate this, but right now it's less worry and more "oh my god when will this stop this is so embarrassing."
I'm not saying people shouldn't treat it seriously, they should. But....Trump won the state by the smallest margin of any state in the entire election, and 2018 will be in all likelihood a backlash against Trumpism (and if it isn't, as I've posted before, then it's truly over).
whyamihere
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I don't think the question is if Kid Rock should be treated seriously, but the poll posts no methodology and has 44 undecided and a sitting US Senator getting 26% of the vote. Cmon.
My in-laws (ex-military and weekly church goers) live in Michigan, and probably voted for Trump, but I just can't see them voting for Kid Rock. Maybe 3rd party or not voting at all, but Kid Rock?
Nah, Mitch just doesn't have any alternatives. The healthcare plan is Phase 1 of their tax plan. If they don't pass it, they're screwed on not only a healthcare 'achievement', but also on taxes.
whyamihere
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Also there's little to no way Stabenow loses even if she should take Kid Rock seriously. She's a brand, and a good one, and any Republican is up against serious headwinds.
Box of Kittens
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I know I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but there's also an official company Twitter account. It has 27 followers and has already both tweeted a link to InfoWars and retweeted Nigel Farange.
But at least unlike "Ben" they actually link to the correct website.
But at least unlike "Ben" they actually link to the correct website.
whyamihere
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Bad news for Debbie Stabenow.
Kid Rock with give Debbie Spend It Now a run for her money.
(Oh my god, Trump will probably call her that)
Do you mean the "support" one? It's my understanding that they goofed and lost that one by mistake.
whyamihere
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It's also crazy how many swing states there might be in 2020 when you add Maine, Minnesota, Arizona, and Georgia to the traditional pile. Just a lot of ways to get to 270.
And hopefully not 270 for Trump!
BoogieWoogie
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Honestly, I'm just terrified of the thought of what happens when/if Trump loses. He may not accept the results, shit he might just fortify himself in the White House or some crap.
whyamihere
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Who's to say!!
I'm pretty sure the Oval Office comes equipped with an ejector seat.
Box of Kittens
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I'm referring to this account, which promotes their "polls" so I doubt they lost it. I think they're just a fake polling outfit pushing disinformation to help Trump.
Not really worried about that. He'll be properly taken away if needed. I'm more worried about voter suppression efforts.
I'm going to agree that everywhere north of Grand Rapids is crazy. I have in-laws in Kalkaska, which recently had a Muslim protest. (No, not the good kind).
I wonder if Young has any skeletons in his closet. I went to high school with his son, who kept asking girls if they wanted to make a movie with him. It turned out it was going to be a porno staring himself as Bat Man.
RumbleHumble
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This. Also, guys, Kid Rock is absolutely winning the primary. Maybe even the whole damn thing.
whyamihere
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If Trump loses and it's not a close loss (like Obama 12), I don't worry about him having no choice but to leave.
He'll probably win the primary but I don't see a world in which he beats Stabenow in 2018.
Considering they have been working on that since November 9th... You can expect voting to be very difficult for some people next year and in 2020.
nature boy
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No malicious intent, just related to recent event, how the nyt reporter was trolling about the 8th person.
Wish he would come back, hope all is well with him
skullmuffins
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AntraxSuicide
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I hope he does, but in Trump Tower instead. I've had some great dreams about him getting dragged out by the NYPD at the order of the NY AG. Bonus if they taze him or his idiot sons (not Barron of course).
whyamihere
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Trump won it by 10,000 votes when his favorables were much higher.
BoogieWoogie
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I think it's maximum capacity for ejection is Taft level and I legit think Trump has surpassed him as fattest pres.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
I can't tell if it's good or bad that he seems to be going after Republicans more. Maybe it will help them develop a spine?
Oh f*** he's going to call Thannos, isn't he.
SatelliteOfLove
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I wonder where his numbers are going up to keep the overal US numbers from sliding, cuz if he's consistantly bleeding out in places like AR and TX, than it has to be.
This is the Summer of Chaos, it's not if but how much Something Big is going down in a week, and if it's good for us.
At this rate he'll be going after the Agriculture Department for KFC not tasting as good as it did before.
whyamihere
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You move on and do everything without him. Roberts swears in Kamala.
Well, Mr. President, why have you failed to educate them on the repercussions during all of those dinners and meetings?
He's going for the Johnson method but he doesn't realize that no Republican lawmakers actually fear or respect him
|OT5| Less Spice, More Smoke
And a little anecdote out of New Zealand, we just hired a Senior Programmer out of Russia and one out of the US. We are just going through the visa stuff for them now. Seems like the US programmer will take a lot longer to get in than the Russian because the vetting process takes more time through US channels.
And a little anecdote out of New Zealand, we just hired a Senior Programmer out of Russia and one out of the US. We are just going through the visa stuff for them now. Seems like the US programmer will take a lot longer to get in than the Russian because the vetting process takes more time through US channels.
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