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[SatelliteOfLove]

Reminder from June. (Since this has been making the rounds on Twitter again today.)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...licans-healthcare-tax-reform?CMP=share_btn_tw

Koch network 'piggy banks' closed until Republicans pass health and tax reform

Eeyup.

Desperate men do desperate things that non-desperate men would not.

 

[Kevinroc]

Kimmel loaded the monologue to tonight's show early (about Jimmy Kimmel Test, Graham-Cassidy bill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlibbx5sx0

"And this guy, Bill Cassidy, just lied right to my face."

This is good.

(It's a shame Jimmy may have recorded this before he could have heard the GOP officially shot down the bipartisan bill.)

 

[Ogodei]

Eeyup.

Desperate men do desperate things that non-desperate men would not.

I feel like the people beholden to this are the people who would vote for anything leadership puts in front of them anyway.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

Trump complaining about the Emmys on Twitter now.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Keith Schiller is officially gone from the white house and apparently Donald Trump is spending the night at Trump tower. Tweet storm here we go.

 

[Ithil]

Sen. Chris Coons:

via https://twitter.com/ToddRuger/status/910269195044184064

Graham introduces this solid legislation, but also that wretched healthcare bill. Can he make up his mind as to whether he's trying to do harm or help?

 

[Plinko]

Graham is openly stating that he has the support of Steve Bannon on the healthcare bill now?

If that isn't a clue these guys are scared of being primaried by Trump's base, I don't know what is.

 

[SatelliteOfLove]

Graham is openly stating that he has the support of Steve Bannon on the healthcare bill now?

If that isn't a clue these guys are scared of being primaried by Trump's base, I don't know what is.

Franken: "I'd vote for you"

Graham: "And that's what worries me"

And there goes the Mercer Money too!

 

[skullmuffins]

While Republicans are busy trying to destroy Medicaid, Tom Price is using tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to charter private jets for his government travel. Obama's HHS secretaries flew economy class. These guys are the worst.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/tom-price-chartered-planes-flights-242908

 

[MetalGearZed]

While Republicans are busy trying to destroy Medicaid, Tom Price is using tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to charter private jets for his government travel. Obama's HHS secretaries flew economy class. These guys are the worst.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/tom-price-chartered-planes-flights-242908

Everything fucking sucks.

 

[Teggy]

Graham is openly stating that he has the support of Steve Bannon on the healthcare bill now?

If that isn't a clue these guys are scared of being primaried by Trump's base, I don't know what is.

They name dropped Jeb Bush as well, believe it or not.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I was saddened to see how bad the ratings were on the Emmys last night - the worst ever. Smartest people of them all are the "DEPLORABLES."
10:41 PM · Sep 19, 2017

What...what do those two sentences have to do with one another?

 

[sc0la]

While Republicans are busy trying to destroy Medicaid, Tom Price is using tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to charter private jets for his government travel. Obama's HHS secretaries flew economy class. These guys are the worst.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/tom-price-chartered-planes-flights-242908

They are everything they tell you the other guy is.

 

[pigeon]

I don't think most Democrats want an open borders policy.

Hell, in fact - you'd be going against what most actual immigrants want

http://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx

Older data when broken out by race, but fairly consistent.

Not my fault most Democrats are stupid and don't want America to succeed!

 

[BoboBrazil]

The emmys weren't even last night. They were Sunday night, so I feel like he had that one as a saved draft ready to tweet the second John Kelly wasn't around lol.

 

[Plumbob]

They name dropped Jeb Bush as well, believe it or not.




What...what do those two sentences have to do with one another?

If you were smarter you would know

 

[Teggy]

If you were smarter you would know

I...hm.


lol nothing matters

 

[Blader]

Kimmel loaded the monologue to tonight's show early (about Jimmy Kimmel Test, Graham-Cassidy bill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlibbx5sx0

"And this guy, Bill Cassidy, just lied right to my face."

This is goddamn powerful.

 

[shinra-bansho]

As Warren and Sanders Jockey for Support, One Takes a Road More Traveled https://nyti.ms/2yaO585

Neoliberal shillizabeth met with Jamie Dimon.

 

[pigeon]

As Warren and Sanders Jockey for Support, One Takes a Road More Traveled https://nyti.ms/2yaO585

Neoliberal shillizabeth met with Jamie Dimon.

I assume she told him to cut it out, though.

 

[Host Samurai]

While Republicans are busy trying to destroy Medicaid, Tom Price is using tens of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to charter private jets for his government travel. Obama's HHS secretaries flew economy class. These guys are the worst.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/19/tom-price-chartered-planes-flights-242908

What a fucking government leech.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Neolizabethral had been trying to learn about foreign policy. Silly woman, learning is for chumps.

Trump doesn't want to learn anything. And he's President.

Shillizabeth should stick to her knitting.

 

[kirblar]

As Warren and Sanders Jockey for Support, One Takes a Road More Traveled https://nyti.ms/2yaO585

Neoliberal shillizabeth met with Jamie Dimon.

She really wanted that VP slot.

 

[Fenderputty]

I know open borders is generally good for an economey, but does that analysis make any assumptions about the immigration of surrounding countries? Like if the US is the only country allowing everyone in, would tbe effects be worse than if there were other option for these immigrants? What about the state of an economey when open policy is enacted?

 

[shinra-bansho]

Free flow of labour between countries would basically double gross world product and amount to the largest reduction in global poverty ever.

Studies on the impact of immigration on wages and employment have typically found it is minimal from memory.

 

[Ecotic]

I know open borders is generally good for an economey, but does that analysis make any assumptions about the immigration of surrounding countries? Like if the US is the only country allowing everyone in, would tbe effects be worse than if there were other option for these immigrants? What about the state of an economey when open policy is enacted?

In theory a nation is never worse off from opening itself up to the resources of other nations, even if the rest of the world is in autarky. However, that doesn't account for hidden negative externalities (some real and some perceived), such as some people perceiving a loss of cultural homogeneity, or the adjustment costs as businesses and people shift employment patterns to accommodate new workers and capital.

 

[Fenderputty]

Free flow of labour between countries would basically double gross world product and amount to the largest reduction in global poverty ever.

Studies on the impact of immigration on wages and employment have typically found it is minimal from memory.

This assumes WW participation though. I'm wondering if the effects are different if the sharing is more one sided.

In theory a nation is never worse off from opening itself up to the resources of other nations, even if the rest of the world is in autarky. However, that doesn't account for hidden negative externalities (some real and some perceived), such as some people perceiving a loss of cultural homogeneity, or the adjustment costs as businesses and people shift employment patterns to accommodate new workers and capital.

This is kind of what I was assuming. Would some level of control just shy of "open", or possibly a transition period over time reduced some of the actual hidden negative externalities. The perceived ones would always exist, at least until racism dies

I believe there is some merit to: "we can't even take care of who we got" as well. In theory the economic boom comes, but in practice, could that boom be filtered away and off to the rich?

 

[VendettaRed07]

She really wanted that VP slot.

She wanted the presidency

 

[thepotatoman]

I wonder what republican senators who are voting for Cassidy-Graham think politics and healthcare will be in the next 5 or 10 years if they passed it. Do they think their propaganda networks and anti-democracy tactics would hold back any voter blowback indefinitely? Do they think voters will like this new system, and give up on looking for alternatives after they salted the earth on the best chance for a long lasting private-based system?

Or maybe they just don't care what happens in the future as long as they can always say they denied obama the achievement.

 

[pigeon]

This assumes WW participation though. I'm wondering if the effects are different if the sharing is more one sided.



This is kind of what I was assuming. Would some level of control just shy of "open", or possibly a transition period over time reduced some of the actual hidden negative externalities. The perceived ones would always exist, at least until racism dies

I believe there is some merit to: "we can't even take care of who we got" as well. In theory the economic boom comes, but in practice, could that boom be filtered away and off to the rich?

I don't think fear of racists should affect our policy choices, except maybe for policies that involve restricting racism.

The second point is literally the economic anxiety argument. You get that, right? It's logically extensible to banning all immigration.

 

[CoolOff]

Just found out an old classmate of mine from uni has spent the last two years undercover with the alt-right.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/opinion/alt-right-white-supremacy-undercover.html?

Shit is messing with my head. I never got the impression that he was the type of guy to pull something like that off, it's pretty impressive for a 23 y/o.

 

[Zolo]

Or maybe they just don't care what happens in the future as long as they can always say they denied obama the achievement.

Most (if not all) members in congress are safe enough from the backlash of stuff they pass. Worst thing happens is that they get voted out of office which people like Heller expect to happen to them anyway.

I never got the impression that he was the type of guy to pull something like that off

Guess that means he's good at undercover work.

 

[Plinko]

Looking over the details of this health care bill and seeing things written about how newborns born with birth defects could hit their lifetime cap before they leave the hospital for the first time, I think I'm comfortable saying that, if this passes, this would be worst piece of legislation to be enacted in several decades.

And all because the Koch brothers threatened their funding.

 

[Crocodile]

Is the Senate in session the rest of this week?

 

[Officerrob]

Is the Senate in session the rest of this week?

They left town for the "weekend"

 

[nature boy]

Enjoy!

 

[Ithil]

Cancel Fox and Friends, see what happens to his opinions. They just float out the window.

 

[gaugebozo]

Enjoy!

Glad he put that C there, I never would have known who "Bill" was.

 

[Oblivion]

Check out this hot take:

I want to live in a world where ppl wearing swastikas or rainbows or Black Power shirts can coexist without physically attacking each other.

https://twitter.com/chadfelixg/status/910287864088420352

 

[PBY]

This assumes WW participation though. I'm wondering if the effects are different if the sharing is more one sided.



This is kind of what I was assuming. Would some level of control just shy of "open", or possibly a transition period over time reduced some of the actual hidden negative externalities. The perceived ones would always exist, at least until racism dies

I believe there is some merit to: "we can't even take care of who we got" as well. In theory the economic boom comes, but in practice, could that boom be filtered away and off to the rich?

We gotta stop making the rights arguments

 

[dramatis]

How Rick Santorum Got A Haircut And Revived The GOP's Obamacare Repeal Effort

There's a chance Republicans wouldn't be so close to repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act if former GOP Sen. Rick Santorum, of Pennsylvania, hadn't dropped into the Capitol barbershop this spring.

"I was up on the Hill, I happened to just go by the barbershop to see if I could get a haircut, and Lindsey was in the chair," Santorum said. "And Lindsey asked me what I was doing, and I thought to myself, 'Well, let me just bounce it off Lindsey.' "

Who let this guy back in DC?

 

[Diablos]

Of course it would be Rick who would do something like that. Of course.

 

[Blader]

I wonder what republican senators who are voting for Cassidy-Graham think politics and healthcare will be in the next 5 or 10 years if they passed it. Do they think their propaganda networks and anti-democracy tactics would hold back any voter blowback indefinitely? Do they think voters will like this new system, and give up on looking for alternatives after they salted the earth on the best chance for a long lasting private-based system?

Or maybe they just don't care what happens in the future as long as they can always say they denied obama the achievement.

I don't think there's much thought put into it. For most Republicans, Obamacare = bad and anything that repeals Obamacare = good. That's all. Many of them will never even read what they're voting for.

 

[whyamihere]

The spacing in that Fox and Friends tweet is so bad.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

They left town for the "weekend"

yep, calling my senator to make sure he stays in town. Democrats can't take a break they gotta sit in the senate 24/7

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I wonder what republican senators who are voting for Cassidy-Graham think politics and healthcare will be in the next 5 or 10 years if they passed it. Do they think their propaganda networks and anti-democracy tactics would hold back any voter blowback indefinitely? Do they think voters will like this new system, and give up on looking for alternatives after they salted the earth on the best chance for a long lasting private-based system?

Or maybe they just don't care what happens in the future as long as they can always say they denied obama the achievement.

They're only thinking about not being primaried.

They also have to erase a successful black man's legacy. That's been their only mission since 2008.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

Anyone mention this bombshell yet?

U.S. government officials picked up conversations between former Trump campaign head Paul Manafort and Russian individuals about the 2016 campaign, CBS News reported Tuesday.

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...d-conversations-between-manafort-and-russians

 

[Blader]

yep, calling my senator to make sure he stays in town. Democrats can't take a break they gotta sit in the senate 24/7

Why? I think I'd rather have Dem senators go home and organize/mobilize voters and activists.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

Anyone mention this bombshell yet?




http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...d-conversations-between-manafort-and-russians

LAHWDY

 

[Mark Andrew]

New talking point from the Trumpsters in my orbit: Trump is going to pardon everyone anyways, so the investigation should just end. It’s a waste of taxpayer money!

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

New talking point from the Trumpsters in my orbit: Trump is going to pardon everyone anyways, so the investigation should just end. It’s a waste of taxpayer money!

😂