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[balladofwindfishes]

It's passing. Has anyone seen McConnell today? How smiling was he? Oh god, it's passing. It's already passed.

Funny how they gave Kentucky more federal funding (on paper, anyway) to try and rope Paul into supporting this when I'm pretty sure that's the exact opposite of what he'd want lol

Anyway, it's interesting that Graham-Cassidy already has majority disapproval because my sense is that the media isn't taking this effort nearly as seriously as they were for AHCA, where the average schmuck had a clearer image of what the bill would do if enacted. It has much higher undecideds than what we usually saw for that bill, probably owing to that, but I think there's a pretty hard majority against any repeal and replace plan now. 9 months of GOP antics has made it clear they don't have an actual functional plan ready to go, so the general consensus has moved firmly into "let's fix Obamacare."

I think we're getting to a point where the public no longer trusts the GOP to properly handle healthcare reform

Anything proposed by them is immediately viewed as bad and they need to be convinced is good

 

[AndyD]

How many reworks are they going to try to slip in before the Friday deadline I wonder?

All of them.

It was interesting on weekend interviews the standard response to criticism seems to be equitable distribution of funds to all states. But the obvious follow-up question of why put limitations on how funds are used just wasn't asked.

 

[Beer Monkey]

Anthony Weiner sentenced to 21 months.

EDIT: Late!

 

[Barzul]

Weiner got 21 months. That guy definitely one of the worst things to happen to the Democratic Party.

 

[Mortimer Brewster]

It'll be Bill Clinton 2.0: Pissgate boogaloo

Always warned people that this woukd likely be Clinton 2.0 and not Nixon 2.0. The era of partisanship politics which began with Clinton has only gotten worse since then.

 

[Aaron Strife]

I think we're getting to a point where the public no longer trusts the GOP to properly handle healthcare reform

Anything proposed by them is immediately viewed as bad and they need to be convinced is good

I understand many people at the beginning of Trump's term being like "oh, let's give him a chance," and every GOP bill that's come out has just been worse than the last one. Trump and the GOP had very little good will to start with, and whatever benefit of the doubt voters were willing to give them has already been burned through.

 

[Plinko]

Can he be charged with state crimes as President?

Legal experts I have read on Twitter say yes.

Funny how they gave Kentucky more federal funding (on paper, anyway) to try and rope Paul into supporting this when I'm pretty sure that's the exact opposite of what he'd want lol

I laughed at that, too. Made no sense to me.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

Legal experts I have read on Twitter say yes.

So no one nailed Nixon because he hadn't really committed state crimes or the investigator just wasn't as much of a hard ass as Mueller?

 

[Spoiled Milk]

EDIT: I DIDN'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS

 

[Mark Andrew]

Anyone else been hearing the word “uppity” a lot today? Jesus Christ.

 

[Plinko]

So no one nailed Nixon because he hadn't really committed state crimes or the investigator just wasn't as much of a hard ass as Mueller?

No clue. Almost unviersally, though, I have seen legal analysts say a president can be charged with state crimes.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Anyone else been hearing the word ”uppity" a lot today? Jesus Christ.

Yup. How dare black people have opinions!

No clue. Almost unviersally, though, I have seen legal analysts say a president can be charged with state crimes.

If I were to guess, it'd be because trying to get Nixon at the time would've been a federalism nightmare, particularly back when he was asserting executive privilege protected him from investigation generally.

 

[Blader]

So no one nailed Nixon because he hadn't really committed state crimes or the investigator just wasn't as much of a hard ass as Mueller?

Nixon's obstruction of justice in the Watergate case wouldn't have been a state crime.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

Anyone else been hearing the word “uppity” a lot today? Jesus Christ.

My dog was going crazy this morning....hmmmm

 

[royalan]

Anyone else been hearing the word “uppity” a lot today? Jesus Christ.

There was a whole lot of black people with opinions this weekend.

 

[FyreWulff]

So no one nailed Nixon because he hadn't really committed state crimes or the investigator just wasn't as much of a hard ass as Mueller?

Nixon was pretty much let go for reasons(tm). They got most everyone around him, though.

Not that I agree with it.. but yeah, he was pretty much allowed to walk. The political capital/momentum was that it was supposedly enough shame to resign as president.

 

[Kusagari]

Trump still hasn't said one word about the TN church shooting, but continues to tweet about the anthem.

 

[RumbleHumble]

Trump still hasn't said one word about the TN church shooting, but continues to tweet about the anthem.

Wouldn't that appeal to his base too? Or was the church's congregation also black? Fox News was eating it for breakfast out of glee yesterday.

 

[Plinko]

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/912322179165032448

Ok #ByrdRule twitter lets cut to the chase: in my opinion Graham-Cassidy 2.0 is more likely to have Byrd problems than before (🐦🛁thread)

 

[Wilsongt]

Trump still hasn't said one word about the TN church shooting, but continues to tweet about the anthem.

Surprising, given the shooter was from Sudan.

 

[Mark Andrew]

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/912322179165032448

 

[BoogieWoogie]

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/912322179165032448

Did Skinny Repeal satisfy the Byrd rule last time?

 

[GrapeApes]

Surprising, given the shooter was from Sudan.

He just took Sudan off the travel ban lust though. Would make him look bad.

 

[Surfinn]

Sorry if old: WaPo just popped up a notification that Rand Paul is a no

 

[RumbleHumble]

Sorry if old: WaPo just popped up a notification that Rand Paul is a no

It's dead, Jim, take its stuff.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

For pity's sake, just put the bill out of misery. This is just getting sad to watch.

 

[Surfinn]

So

Will the GOP just try to pass heathcare indefinitely for the next (at least) 3 years?

 

[Hubbl3]

So I just got an alert for this story. We'll see what comes from it...

North Korea's foreign minister said Monday that President Donald Trump has "declared war" on his country and that the regime would consider shooting down American bombers even if they were outside its airspace.

"Since the U.S. declared war on our country, we will have every right to make countermeasures, including the right to shoot down the U.S. bombers even when they are not yet inside the airspace border of our country," Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho told reporters in New York.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-...-minister-says-trump-has-declared-war-n804501

 

[RumbleHumble]

So

Will the GOP just try to pass heathcare indefinitely for the next (at least) 3 years?

Given the current course of actions, Hell, why not? It's not like they got anything better to do.

 

[tmarg]

So

Will the GOP just try to pass heathcare indefinitely for the next (at least) 3 years?

Probably not during the run up to the midterms, but if we don't take enough seats back then definitely in 2019.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

21 MONTHS for flashing his ding dong to a kid over the internet?! This country makes me sick.

Are you ironically defending a pedophile or...?

Because you're defending a pedophile

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Healthcare repeal returns every 27 days to feed on Republican congressmen for a week before it sleeps again.

 

[Aaron Strife]

tbh I could see them trying to pass something out of spite in the lame duck session should Democrats win the House.

Also unfortunately if McCain dies or resigns. They might figure "oh sweet, we have the votes for skinny repeal now." In which case hopefully Graham would step up to the plate for his dead friend, it's not like he wanted skinny repeal to be law either.

 

[Plinko]

Probably not during the run up to the midterms, but if we don't take enough seats back then definitely in 2019.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see it again this year.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

After next week it needs to go through the house again, right?

They have to start from scratch?

 

[Amibguous Cad]

Are you ironically defending a pedophile or...?

Because you're defending a pedophile

I think he's saying the sentence is too lenient, not too harsh.

EDIT: apparently not, judging by the other thread.

So, like, are we all going to die? North Korea sure sounds like they're trying to start a war, and Trump isn't going to de-escalate.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

After next week it needs to go through the house again, right?

They have to start from scratch?

After this week it needs 60 votes until a new budget resolution and reconciliation rules are set next year (or nuke the filibuster).

 

[tmarg]

I wouldn’t be shocked to see it again this year.

Apparently there's an actual deadline for reconciliation this time. So if they don't do it by the end of the month, it's not happening this year.

 

[Ernest]

George Clooney's recent quote on Trump is hot fire!

 

[RumbleHumble]

I think he's saying the sentence is too lenient, not too harsh.

So, like, are we all going to die? North Korea sure sounds like they're trying to start a war, and Trump isn't going to de-escalate.

Probably not. The threats are pretty much the same. Media just likes reporting on NK shit because it gets clicks.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

So

Will the GOP just try to pass heathcare indefinitely for the next (at least) 3 years?

That Koch money tho

 

[LostMyNarbles]

I think he's saying the sentence is too lenient, not too harsh.

So, like, are we all going to die? North Korea sure sounds like they're trying to start a war, and Trump isn't going to de-escalate.

Nah he's been defending it in the OT that it is too harsh.

 

[Mark Andrew]

George Clooney's recent quote on Trump is hot fire!

Clooney is going to kick ass at the 50-podium 2020 primary debate.

 

[Surfinn]

George Clooney's recent quote on Trump is hot fire!

That last line, lol. Damn really puts things into perspective on the whole "Hollywood Elite" thing

 

[PBY]

George Clooney's recent quote on Trump is hot fire!

I mean.

Its kind of stupid to argue that he isn't the elite and that will always be a losing argument.

He's dead on re Trump though.

 

[daedalius]

George Clooney's recent quote on Trump is hot fire!

Clooney could be president one day I think. If he wanted to, that is.

 

[Ernest]

Clooney could be president one day I think. If he wanted to, that is.

Not to mention his wife, and the causes she's championed as a lawyer, would make for an amazing First Lady.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

The people of Puerto Rico are really getting the short of the end of the stick here. Where's the coverage? Or the many public condemnations of this administrations non-response?

 

[Tamanon]

I'm more surprised that Clooney doesn't have a star on Hollywood Boulevard yet.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I'm more surprised that Clooney doesn't have a star on Hollywood Boulevard yet.

You lobby for that. Clooney doesn't care.