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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher

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Randolph Freelander

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Dubbedinenglish said:
A little worried Trump will try to move Sessions to the DEA to try and fire Mueller indirectly.
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It's been a few months, but the last I had read was that Trump was fully capable of directly firing Mueller right now if he so chose. He doesn't need anyone at DOJ to do it. There's a rule that disallows it, but thing about that rule is he can actually unilaterally decide to modify it without any input from Congress, or at the very least he could do it and then see if he gets slapped down by the courts.
 
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Fenderputty

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Dubbedinenglish said:
Was too busy in LA
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At the very least, the Pope should have recommended this as a good faith gesture.

Dubbedinenglish said:
A little worried Trump will try to move Sessions to the DEA to try and fire Mueller indirectly.
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This would also require anyone replacing Sessions pass congressional muster. It would create a political shit storm and wouldn't prevent congress or any of the states from picking Mueller up themselves. It would be another mark against him in the obstruction case though ...
 
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Kevinroc

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Plinko said:
Or they could actually let Alexander, Murray, et al., try to come up with something bipartisan.

Here's my main concern: GOP doesn't want this to happen because they don't want to ever give the ACA credit for doing anything right. A bipartisan group almost assuredly repairs the ACA's issues. GOP desperately wants this to fail, which is why they'll keep pulling the rug out from under these bipartisan efforts.
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They really seem to think voters will blame Democrats for anything that goes wrong with the ACA moving forward.
 
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AntraxSuicide

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Trump can always have Mueller fired. He just has to fire AGs until someone caves (and interim AGs don't need Congressional confirmation but have all the same authority anyway). He doesn't do that because it's textbook obstruction and would see him in handcuffs within the month.
 
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Valhelm

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Anyone else see Jonathan Chait trying real hard to explain why the GOP, Trump included, aren't technically white supremacists?

He gets bonus points for comparing Ta-Nehisi Coates to the people who think all Muslims are terrorists
 
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Randolph Freelander said:
The worst has been progressively happening since 2010, though. First, they took the house. Then the Senate. Then the Presidency, which then allowed them to steal a Supreme Court seat.

They'll maintain power in 2018, extend it in the Senate in all likelihood, and who knows how Trump and the DOJ will try to stifle voting in 2020.

The worst is a given until the next time young people care enough to vote. When that happens, I can afford myself the luxury of being optimistic less pessimistic.
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This is honestly something you can only say if you've really only been a sentient adult long enough to see 2 presidential election cycles. A brief examination of US political history will show that Republicans gaining ground while a Democrat is president is the least unusual thing one could possibly conceive of.
 
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Vimes

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Pigeon and my dream of a car-free future is coming

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ollowing-china-with-combustion-engine-car-ban
The internal combustion engine's days may be numbered in California, where officials are mulling whether a ban on sales of polluting autos is needed to achieve long-term targets for cleaner air.

Governor Jerry Brown has expressed an interest in barring the sale of vehicles powered by internal-combustion engines, Mary Nichols, chairman of the California Air Resources Board, said in an interview Friday at Bloomberg headquarters in New York. The earliest such a ban is at least a decade away, she said.
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Y2Kev

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Also Lisa m never even had to say shit. I get the strategy now unless McConnell starts leaking.
 
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excelsiorlef

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Valhelm said:
Anyone else see Jonathan Chait trying real hard to explain why the GOP, Trump included, aren't technically white supremacists?

He gets bonus points for comparing Ta-Nehisi Coates to the people who think all Muslims are terrorists
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What a shocker... there's an entire cottage industry for guys like Chait to make money off being the "Sensible" "Liberal"
 
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sphagnum

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Valhelm said:
Anyone else see Jonathan Chait trying real hard to explain why the GOP, Trump included, aren't technically white supremacists?

He gets bonus points for comparing Ta-Nehisi Coates to the people who think all Muslims are terrorists
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"You are either with the people beating up the racist-fascists, or you are with the racist-fascists themselves."

Yeah pretty much
 
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Aaron Strife

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Randolph - to your point about needing to win the House vote by 15 points (or whatever) to flip enough seats. Go back four years, give every House D six extra points and they're in the majority. There's never a unanimous margin shift so trying to figure out that math is futile.
 
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Teggy

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Ah, I see what’s on the docket next

Kevin McCarthy @GOPLeader
Next week, I’m bringing legislation to the House floor that will respect the sanctity of life and stop needless suffering. #PainCapable
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Also, Politico is out for Price’s blood

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/26/tom-price-private-jets-243176

Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price took a government-funded private jet in August to get to St. Simons Island, an exclusive Georgia resort where he and his wife own land, a day and a half before he addressed a group of local doctors at a medical conference that he and his wife have long attended.

The St. Simons Island trip was one of two taxpayer-funded flights on private jets in which Price traveled to places where he owns property, and paired official visits with meetings with longtime colleagues and family members. On June 6, HHS chartered a jet to fly Price to Nashville, Tennessee, where he owns a condominium and where his son resides. Price toured a medicine dispensary and spoke to a local health summit organized by a longtime friend. He also had lunch with his son, an HHS official confirmed.
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whyamihere

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@mcimaps
Early vote drops and Taddeo now down only 700! 50-47% Diaz lead. This is better for Taddeo.. makes Eday a savior IF its Dem (dont know)
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@mcimaps
3 scenarios
1) Taddeo wins eday enough to win
2) Taddeo wins eday but raw # too small
3) Taddeo loses eday because dems didnt show
#flapol
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here we go
 
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Kusagari

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Taddeo is like an eternal loser.

She lost to Garcia in a primary. She was Crist's running mate in the governor race he lost to Voldemort. Won't be surprised if she loses a third time.
 
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whyamihere

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Pretty clear that Perez has won HD-116, keeping it R despite being a Hillary district.

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Oh and if anyone cared... HD116 staying solidly in GOP hands.. no shock there
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Hell GOP won the early vote there.. dem campaign was ghost.. wasn't really in play... very Cuban, little dem strength down-ballot
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Randolph Freelander

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Emerson said:
This is honestly something you can only say if you've really only been a sentient adult long enough to see 2 presidential election cycles. A brief examination of US political history will show that Republicans gaining ground while a Democrat is president is the least unusual thing one could possibly conceive of.
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Aaron Strife said:
Randolph - to your point about needing to win the House vote by 15 points (or whatever) to flip enough seats. Go back four years, give every House D six extra points and they're in the majority. There's never a unanimous margin shift so trying to figure out that math is futile.
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And yet, do y'all remember how optimistic everyone was in 2013 (hint: GOP was doing very bad things) about 2014? Good times. ;)
 
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Aaron Strife

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whyamihere said:
Pretty clear that Perez has won HD-116, keeping it R despite being a Hillary district.
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Iirc Dems flubbed hard on the candidate here so not too surprising. FL Dems suck.

Randolph Freelander said:
And yet, do y'all remember how optimistic everyone was in 2013 (hint: GOP was doing very bad things) about 2014? Good times.
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That has nothing to do with what I said?

Once again, 2014 was bad for Democrats because it was a Dem midterm. You still haven't factored in bad GOP midterms like 2006 in or articulated why they shouldn't count.
 
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