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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
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ShadowSwordmaster
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Hahahaha.
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Sadly, I am not the UK electorate.
Greigor The Fellhand
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lol.
CLarke shows up
trump " clarke I got a position for you!"
Kelly: *shuts door on clarke proceeds to tell secret service to remove him from white house grounds*
"trump, there is no way in which clarke will ever have a position in this office or government. Am I clear."
Trump: "fine he'll work for my super pac"
Well that was quick
BoogieWoogie
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This is the kind of thing that makes me think the Republicans forced Kelly on Trump and said "He stays and makes the decisions or we impeach." Like why wouldn't Trump just go over Kelly's head on Clarke unless he was scared to?
Futurevoid
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Not sure if the DACA policy was posted here but this is what the Sessions will be announcing as per ABC:
bangbang i'm a timpani
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? He was homeland security advisor and completely fine with the muslim ban. He is a trump supporter period.
BoogieWoogie
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If this were true, Clarke would have been in no problem. I'm not saying that Kelly doesn't agree with Trump on some shit but I don't think the guy is supporting Trump as much as managing him.
Futurevoid
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Oh and Steve King being his usual evil piece of shit self.
balladofwindfishes
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Just kicking the can into the future.
VendettaRed07
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As much as people have a right to believe that the GOP hasn't done this given how they've handled this so far, I would not be surprised if they did say this to him behind the scenes
End of the day Clarke is black and I don't see Trump fighting that hard for him.
Futurevoid
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Kobach has would have ended up number 2 at DHS if that were true as well. Kelly blocked that appointment.
ShadowSwordmaster
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This is a hot potato plan.
Kelly seems more apolitical than strictly pro-Trump. Not that he doesn't have his own hardline immigration views, but his stance often seems to be "it's my job to enforce the law, if you don't like it then change the law."
Futurevoid
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"Please come campaign for me, Mr. President. Roy Moore is pushing my shit in right now."
RumbleHumble
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Gotta pass that buck.
So you are neither, which means you have very little in common with us or them.
To be frank it's more appalling that you are of the idea that things would be so much better if you yourself was the primary electorate. Go on, advocate for how the vote should be limited to people who share your ideology. I'm sure there are plenty of undemocratic states out there willing to house you.
BoogieWoogie
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"Please come campaign for me, Mr. President. Roy Moore is pushing my shit in right now."
Proceed idiot.
Dubbedinenglish
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Between deflecting to Congress and making Sessions do the announcements Trunp is such a fucking coward. He can't take responsibility for his own actions.
Mark Andrew
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Does this include a simple majority for impeachment? 🤔
RumbleHumble
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Men like Sheriff Joe are not the sort I expect to work this stuff out in advance.
nature boy
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"It's gonna be so easy folks"
balladofwindfishes
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He kicked the problem to Congress to handle right when midterms start ramping up lol
RumbleHumble
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Sessions gone full Brietbart with this announcement. Even blamed the immigrants fer takin yer jobs!
benicillin
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As expected. Trump is vile, his administration is vile, and a majority of the country has no problem with DACA, so this again is just Trump fellating his shrinking base of racists.
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I shall put a little sticker on my posts in future saying 'tongue in cheek', for the hard of humour among us.
Got the Shakes
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So the arguement Sessions made was DACA is unconstitutional because Congress was circumvented, but the Muslim Ban is fine and falls under presidential powers? 🤔
An executive order is executive overreach unless it's your favorite doing it. /s
The amount of Trumpers I've heard praising the muslim ban that were crying about Obama's EO's being unconstitutional is almost enough to have me quit following politics.
The Republicans advocating for the elimination of the Senate's filibuster make no sense to me. Do they honestly believe they'll control the Senate forever? Do they know how quickly and how hard their most hated liberal policies are going to be pushed the second the Senate has 51 Dems?
DACA and the Muslim ban are completely different though? Not that the Muslim ban isn't also unconstitutional, but the executive having the power to prevent certain people from entering the country is a different position than the executive having the power to unilaterally protect people from being forced out.
DACA and the Muslim ban are completely different though? Not that the Muslim ban isn't also unconstitutional, but the executive having the power to prevent certain people from entering the country is a different position than the executive having the power to unilaterally protect people from being forced out.
Trump's vileness spreads to the EPA...
Instead of saying "You're right, we need to get to those toxic sites", the EPA attacks AP journalists and links to Breitbart in official press release. You cannot make this shit up!
Instead of saying "You're right, we need to get to those toxic sites", the EPA attacks AP journalists and links to Breitbart in official press release. You cannot make this shit up!
Nomadic Sparks
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How worried about a government shutdown or a default?
I'm on SSI/medicaid/medicare/HUD
I'm on SSI/medicaid/medicare/HUD
Right, my family is going on about some shit. Again.
So, without further ado some of their points:
1. Well I get where they're (people pro daca) but we need a strongera border. We can't just let anybody in. This is the main point they trot out.
2. There are bad kids that get through.
(this comes off as just bullshit excuse making)
3. Paris attacks was from lax border control.
4. Every country is more strict about "illegals"
Hope you guys can clarify for them.
So, without further ado some of their points:
1. Well I get where they're (people pro daca) but we need a strongera border. We can't just let anybody in. This is the main point they trot out.
2. There are bad kids that get through.
(this comes off as just bullshit excuse making)
3. Paris attacks was from lax border control.
4. Every country is more strict about "illegals"
Hope you guys can clarify for them.
Might as well add Irma relief at this point.
RustyNails
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So is a packed legislative agenda common for Congress in September or is the current one so horrible they just punted everything down the road? I dont remember this being a problem for Obama years, not to this extent.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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MUST PLEASE CORPORATE MASTERS AND BIGOTS AT ANY COST
I'm hoping they'll be so overwhelmed that they won't put up much of a fight.
Probably not going to happen, but this Congress seems especially bad at doing anything.
BoogieWoogie
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Eliminating DACA will fuck over Corporations HARD. This is the only reason why I think Republicans will pass something.
Aaron Strife
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The focus on the filibuster is stupid, but typical Trump. His healthcare bill can't even muster up 50 votes - 60 isn't the problem here.
Big ticket reform items like immigration or infrastructure can get 60 votes if you're willing to sit down with the other party and come out with something everyone can live with. But the GOP would sooner pass a $15 minimum wage bill than entertain working with the Democrats on something.
That being said, we should drop down to 51 the next time Democrats assume power, if the GOP doesn't do it first. Less opportunity for grandstanding, more opportunity to actually get things done. From there we just need to maintain control of one branch (House, Senate or Presidency) to deny Republicans the ability to repeal all of our accomplishments willy-nilly until they become a rational party interested in moving the country forward.
Even with the potential setbacks, that's the main reason why I hoped Clinton would win, so she could preserve Obama's accomplishments to the point that in 2020 even with a GOP win there would be less appetite to repeal ACA.
Big ticket reform items like immigration or infrastructure can get 60 votes if you're willing to sit down with the other party and come out with something everyone can live with. But the GOP would sooner pass a $15 minimum wage bill than entertain working with the Democrats on something.
That being said, we should drop down to 51 the next time Democrats assume power, if the GOP doesn't do it first. Less opportunity for grandstanding, more opportunity to actually get things done. From there we just need to maintain control of one branch (House, Senate or Presidency) to deny Republicans the ability to repeal all of our accomplishments willy-nilly until they become a rational party interested in moving the country forward.
Even with the potential setbacks, that's the main reason why I hoped Clinton would win, so she could preserve Obama's accomplishments to the point that in 2020 even with a GOP win there would be less appetite to repeal ACA.
Mark Andrew
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Yup. Even CEOS who have avoided confronting the President in the past, (e.g. Tim Cook), have taken a strong position on this.
Box of Kittens
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Can't say I'm thrilled at the thought that the fate of DACA lies in the hands of a dysfunctional Congress. One might hope the humanitarian and economic impact along with the overall popularity of helping the dreamers would be enough, but it goes against Trump's base and the GOP is terrified of crossing them.
Aaron Strife
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Special election in New Hampshire to look out for tonight: Open GOP seat in Grafton-9 that went 55-40 for Trump, but 50-48 for Obama in 2012. We've seen some special elections run closer to Obama's numbers than Clinton's, but that's a tight margin all the same.
D candidate is the same as last year's, and he only lost then by a little over 4 points. There's also a Libertarian which could give us an assist.
D candidate is the same as last year's, and he only lost then by a little over 4 points. There's also a Libertarian which could give us an assist.
SatelliteOfLove
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#IMPOTUS
Shit this month, we don't need predictions or warnings you just KNOW it will be insane.
Kelly's been pondered by many along the lines of "is he a white hat, or a black hat?" but I dont think he has any hat really, he's pure order and orders.
Dubbedinenglish
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Don't think there are enough Republicans to get something DACA related don on their own. Also don't think Dems will bend on the wall funding. They'll probably need a veto proof majority to get a clean bill through. If something gets done it is at the last minute.
Sheriff David, Sheriff Joe is the other crooked-sheriff-come-sycophantic-trump-jobber
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