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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
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CrimzonSamurai
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Lol this guy forgetting he was fighting the Spanish and shouting "we've got the damn Yankees on the run!" in Cuba is one of my top 10 most hilarious historical moments. I mean screw the guy but that's freakin hysterical.
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Deleted member 231381
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It's time to d-d-d-d-defect.
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It's a media site intending to report from a Clintonite perspective. Clinton endorsed it. The website crashed, possibly as a result of deliberate attack, but more likely because the owners are incompetent.
BoogieWoogie
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I wonder when Sessions just makes it illegal to be black?
TumblingHippo
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I'm reflecting on when posters say things like "I have a friend who supports Trump", and it's like, why? Why are they still your friend? Why would you want to be associated with people who choose to follow and believe in pure scum?
Family, I could get to some degree, you can't choose them nor coworkers. But why would you tolerate friends who support bigotry?
Family, I could get to some degree, you can't choose them nor coworkers. But why would you tolerate friends who support bigotry?
Futurevoid
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This should be fun...
The freedom caucus will no doubt enjoy reading this.
The freedom caucus will no doubt enjoy reading this.
BoogieWoogie
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I cut off my relationship with my folks over this shit, it was just too much. Nothing could get through to them so I basically had to say "You know what, I can't abide by your feelings on this."
Mark Andrew
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Uh...doesnt this guarantee some Republican no votes and give Democrats incredible leverage?
benicillin
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Why would they do this? Why?
I'm not exactly sure what a 'Clitonite perspective' would be. It's a news site for blue dogs/center left?
Amibguous Cad
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Because as a privileged person it's my responsibility to keep the lines of persuasion open where others can't.
So that they can get Republican votes for the debt ceiling increase.
CrimzonSamurai
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But the Freedom Caucus specifically said they wouldn't vote for it tied to Harvey aid so I don't get it.
Your privilege would be better used showing people that there are social consequences for moral abdication, rather than normalizing that abdication.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Yup, which Pelosi is a master at. Just this May she completely ate the GOP's lunch over something the party would have voted for anyway.
But we should replace her with Tim Ryan for those sweet, sweet corporate tax cuts.
TumblingHippo
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This sucks for me to say and think but when I see a furry avatar in a discussion about morality all I can reflect on is how the furry fandom is struggling to not have goddamn nazis take over its image.
Shaming is a form of persuasion as well. Kick them out. Kick them all out. There is no room for civility towards Trump supporters, and no room at all for Nazis.
The problem Ryan is trying to solve here is not the Freedom Caucus. He's already accepted they will vote no because they suck.
The problem Ryan is trying to solve is getting all the other Republicans to support a debt ceiling increase which they know they have to pass but don't want to be responsible for.
Boehner's strategy for passing must-pass legislation was always either to tie it into stuff Republicans will actually vote for, or to pass it with mostly Democratic votes. This looks like the former. But honestly it could end up being the latter.
The Freedom Caucus is not going to vote for a debt ceiling lift at all unless it's tied to draconian spending cuts that will never happen. So trying to court their vote at all on this issue is kind of pointless from Ryan's perspective.
Amibguous Cad
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PoliGAF probably isn't the place to have this debate again, so i'll just note that gamers in glass houses can hardly afford to throw stones at furries wrt sharing a fandom with fascists.
CrimzonSamurai
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I'm thinking the latter with Ryan ignoring the FC and allowing the dems to tack on some version of the dream act in exchange for their votes. Then the senate just passes it straight through.
That could be wishful thinking.
But you're also a gamer!
Aaron Strife
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Their president is a known sexual abuser.
Yeah, but this one abused boys, I think they draw a line on that one.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Yes. Of course they will.
CrimzonSamurai
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Yeah it's live boy/dead girl. Trump at least isn't a sexual frenzy murderer.
Amibguous Cad
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Finale Fireworker
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These are weirdly inspiring.
Basically he wants to avoid looking like he's caving to the Democrats constantly to get anything done, otherwise he just ends up facing a vote of no confidence much like Boehner did.
Box of Kittens
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I don't want him to go out like Boehner, I want him to go out like Foley.
Iron Stache. Believe.
whyamihere
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why is there furry shit in my poligaf
Box of Kittens
Banned
I'll take it over Relitiigating the Primary Round 7648761 though.
The antifascist circle is kind of a neat historical touch, but on the other hand the Iron Front was a massive failure.
Unlike Iron Stache, who will be a massive success. Believe.
Finale Fireworker
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We must stand united.
Dubbedinenglish
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In our hour of need, we turn to people we don't fully understand.
RustyNails
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The Resistance must stand united against fascism.
DrForester
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Things might get a little hairy.
Finale Fireworker
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Acting shocked by anything in 2017...
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/905080722758578178
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/905082711999528962
Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz)
Something something, the American dream...
Also your fursona doesn't have a political opinion, you do.
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/905082711999528962
Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz)
Something something, the American dream...
Also your fursona doesn't have a political opinion, you do.
SpaceCadetKeon
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I don't even understand how Nazi Furries even came to be. That's right up there with Republican Bronies. A bunch of walking, talking paradoxes as far as I'm concerned.
Aaron Strife
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whyamihere
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i still have my fucking morals.
Box of Kittens
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If it didn't have real world consequences, it would be kind of funny how everything the Republicans did during the Obama administration didn't account for the contingency that they would regain the presidency some day.
In my case? Because my friend who most supports Trump is also one of the four people who were there for me during the absolute lowest period of my life, and to whom I probably literally owe my continued existence. I accept that realistically they would likely have to literally stab me in the back for me to reconsider our relationship.
The other three are all either leftists or politically apathetic.
He's well aware that I find his political views abhorrent, I'm well aware that the feelings mutual.
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