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giga said:what exactly is it with these guys screaming about socialism?
i can understsand it from ron paul nuts maybe, but I had no idea it was so common among the gop too.
I don't think they know what it means.
giga said:what exactly is it with these guys screaming about socialism?
i can understsand it from ron paul nuts maybe, but I had no idea it was so common among the gop too.
giga said:what exactly is it with these guys screaming about socialism?
i can understsand it from ron paul nuts maybe, but I had no idea it was so common among the gop too.
lawblob said:What about David Brooks? I think he still does a good job of flying the flag of intellectual conservatism. Unfortunately for him, I don't think Republicans actually read him, because he writes for the NY terrist' Times
DenogginizerOS said:
electricpirate said:I'm curious, do you think brooks and Kristof communicate? I mean one represents smart conservatism, and the other is probably the smartest of "Dumb" conservatism. When Brooks calls Palin the "cancer of the republican party" he's indirectly talking about Kristof.
saelz8 said:
electricpirate said:I'm curious, do you think brooks and Kristof communicate? I mean one represents smart conservatism, and the other is probably the smartest of "Dumb" conservatism. When Brooks calls Palin the "cancer of the republican party" he's indirectly talking about Kristof.
What is this about Kristof?electricpirate said:I'm curious, do you think brooks and Kristof communicate? I mean one represents smart conservatism, and the other is probably the smartest of "Dumb" conservatism. When Brooks calls Palin the "cancer of the republican party" he's indirectly talking about Kristof.
Incognito said:It's pretty simple, actually. Anything that isn't Republican is automatically socialistic. I have a lot of friends that like to throw around that socialism nonsense and I've reach the point where I just straight up call them idiots to their faces. There really is no debating with people like that.
BotoxAgent said:It seems like to them that govt spending on anything outside of the military is considered socialism.
pxleyes said:Cindy McCain is looking especially evil today.
Both times, McCains campaign has issued statements disavowing the use of the Democrats full name. A McCain aide said they tell individuals speaking before every event not to do so. Sometimes people just do what they want, explained the aide.
Cheebs said:David Brooks and I disagree on a lot but he is right about the GOP. The Republican party needs to wipe itself clean of its Reagan-era christian "joe six pack" persona it has built the last 20 years. It has gotten far out of the mainstream and like he said is purely anti-intellectual now, not just anti-liberal intellectual. The party needs a purging and will I suspect come back as a more secular more pragmatic style party but it may take a while.
But it is obviously clear the pillars of the GOP that Reagan built are coming to a end sooner rather than later.
greepoman said:Gotta love the plausible deniability.
And about the socialism thing...it's ironic that the greatest steps towards socialism just happened under a Republican president.
I can't laugh at this. McCain and Palin (Palin in particular) are rapidly approaching the line between vanilla negative campaigning and honest-to-God incitement to violence.The Lamonster said:God you guys, everything is looking so much better for Obama than I ever imagined it could be.
John McCain is in between a rock and a hard place. Does he disavow the crazed anger in his supporters and concede that Obama is an American and a good person? Or does he continue the personal attacks and risk turning off even more swing voters?
Basically: lolololololololol
Y2Kev said:This FORUM was its own source of nuttiness. How many dummos here said, "If Hillary wins I am voting for McCain!!!!"
you do bring an interesting point though. If Hillary had won do you think Mccain would go so negative?Y2Kev said:This FORUM was its own source of nuttiness. How many dummos here said, "If Hillary wins I am voting for McCain!!!!"
Not very many...? I don't remember too many people like that.Y2Kev said:This FORUM was its own source of nuttiness. How many dummos here said, "If Hillary wins I am voting for McCain!!!!"
ronito said:you do bring an interesting point though. If Hillary had won do you think Mccain would go so negative?
lawblob said:To me this is especially clear when you look at Romney. Mittens should be the nominee of the party right now, he is a Harvard lawyer & MBA, was governor of a large state, has impressive business experience, etc., but the party completely rejected him, and he was forced to run a 100% phony campaign.
There is too much tail wagging the dog in the GOP these days. Its like the rabble has taken over the kingdom, and the leadership doesn't know how to deal with them. Instead of having someone like Romney actually be able to speak from his background and experience, he instead has to position himself as an angry Joe six pack... it is very bizarre. Hopefully after they get killed at the polls in a few weeks, the GOP purging can begin, and all of these angry evangelicals and anti-government wingnuts can get kicked to the curb.
Its not going to matter. The only person who would talk about it is Olbermann. The Ayers isssue stays around because fox news keeps it around.saelz8 said:Troopergate Report
Today!
I imagine a few more hours before it's unleashed, it's still pretty early in Alaska.
When you think back to where we were just around 4 months back, its pretty amazing how the rift between Obama & Hillary supporters has totall been non-issue
lawblob said:To me this is especially clear when you look at Romney. Mittens should be the nominee of the party right now, he is a Harvard lawyer & MBA, was governor of a large state, has impressive business experience, etc., but the party completely rejected him, and he was forced to run a 100% phony campaign.
pxleyes said:McCain is pushing the planetarium line again. :lol :lol :lol Does this man even have advisors anymore?
Dax01 said:Not very many...? I don't remember too many people like that.
Nameless said:When you think back to where we were just around 4 months back, its pretty amazing how the rift between Obama & Hillary supporters has totall been non-issue. The news cycle was dominated by this, experts claimed that winning over women and blue collar dems, as well as trying to reconcile with Clintonites as a whole would be one of Obama's most important and most difficult battles in the GE. You had crowds of dems booing the mere mention of Obama's name and shout crap like "Yes she can".
Yet when focus shifted to the general elections, and people actually began paying attention to the drivel coming out of McCain's mouth, all of that pretty much disappeared. McCain is so inept that he effectively reunited the democratic party with his idiocy--and now the party is looking stronger than ever. And when you look at some of these swing states & traditionally red states where Obama is now showing strong in the polls, he actually lost many of them in the primaries. If you're the GOP how do you let this happen!? I'm not complaining mind you, but its still all pretty incredible how much things have shifted in a such a short period of time.
MrHicks said:the mormon thing probably would have never made him electable
its sad that religion is such a deciding factor in the year 2008!! but thats how it is
kinda sad when you look at europe who mostly don't give a fuck about a candidate's personal life
RumpledForeskin said:You can't get more honest, or american than John McCain people.
You just can't.
He's seriously killing it for himself.Saint Gregory said:There was a time when I couldn't stomach these McCain rallies and now I watch them with glee. All he wants to talk about is stuff that no one cares about but himself and his hardcore followers. Every time he mentions that planetarium projector I LOL.
Stoney Mason said:You have to consider there are far more hardcore Obama supporters on the board and in this thread now. Many of the independents or conservatives have been chased off...
There was a ton of posts earlier in the cycle that Mccain was an honorable man you could vote for. And Hillary was pretty much satan incarnate.
Stoney Mason said:Rudy really disappointed me although you could easily say I was just naive. I thought he had a real chance to pull that party away from some of it's insular outlook but he thought it was a smart idea to turn his back on every position he ever had. Ron Paul at least picked up the torch on the foreign policy front but Republicans consider him a kook now.