Presidential Candidate Ron Paul's Official Thread

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Karma Kramer said:
Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa
June 19, 2007
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What in the f*ck. Tancredo, Thompson and Gilmore don't even show up in most of the polls and Ron Paul isn't even invited. Is it because he actually believes in evolutionary theory?

Something is deeply rotten in Iowa.
 
MassiveAttack said:
What in the f*ck. Tancredo, Thompson and Gilmore don't even show up in most of the polls and Ron Paul isn't even invited.

Something is deeply rotten in Iowa.
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Its called fear... special interest groups know that Ron Paul is a threat and they don't want him to win.

Check out the Ron Paul forums though... people have been calling and email this organization non-stop to get Ron Paul invited. Their mailbox is now full and their phone lines have been busy for the past 3 hours!

http://ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=3680
:lol :lol

liberty bitches
 
Ron Paul was not invited to the Iowa President's forum because the organization holding the event, Iowans for Tax Relief, does not consider Dr. Paul a "credible" candidate.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070621/NEWS09/706210389/-1/caucus

There was a confrontation between Kent Snyder, the chairman of Ron Paul's campaign and Ed Failor who is the director for Iowans for Tax Relief on WHO News Radio 1040 last night.

MP3 is here. Discussion starts at around 1:01 mark. Failor comes across a strangely defensive person who doesn't have a real reason for not inviting Ron Paul. The whole thing is rather bizarre... Definitely worth a listen.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/mickelson/mickelson-2007-06-20.mp3
 
Ron Paul is for real tax relief to the American people...the corporate big-wigs only invited the corporate assholes, so Ron and his revolutionary ideas wouldn't stand out in the crowd and give the people real hope.

My friends...there are two choices...Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Everyone else(besides Gravel) is a corporate asshat who doesn't give a shit about you. Spread the word.
 
maynerd said:
What is Ron's position on health care and more specifically Universal Health Care?
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He's my favoritest politician ever. What do you think?

Furthermore, you should already know that no Republican is going to win the nomination supporting UHC.
 
JayDubya said:
He's my favoritest politician ever. What do you think?

Furthermore, you should already know that no Republican is going to win the nomination supporting UHC.
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Too bad I was starting to like him.
 
maynerd said:
Too bad I was starting to like him.
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Don't worry. I initially didn't like him for not supporting that stance either...but I'm on his side now, as well as Kucinich's. There must be a balance of libertarianism and socialism in this country. I believe I have found it.

I'm running for Congress...and I'm going to make UHC an Amendment to the Constitution...thus Ron has to support it. Read all my other amendments too and join the group if you like.

I have some good ideas...a webpage with beat out complex and concrete Amendments and solutions is forthcoming.

http://mnsu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2454801428

Tell your friends!
 
ErasureAcer said:
Don't worry. I initially didn't like him for not supporting that stance either...but I'm on his side now, as well as Kucinich's. There must be a balance of libertarianism and socialism in this country. I believe I have found it.

I'm running for Congress...and I'm going to make UHC an Amendment to the Constitution...thus Ron has to support it. Read all my other amendments too and join the group if you like.

I have some good ideas...a webpage with beat out complex and concrete Amendments and solutions is forthcoming.

http://mnsu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2454801428

Tell your friends!
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I can't get there at work but I shall take a look at your site. Good luck!
 
JayDubya said:
Fixed that for you. The problem is far more endemic than that.
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I was pretty stunned to find out today that she never finished high school and her parents supported her decision to drop out.

This is someone we celebrate and devote countless hours to discussing in this country?

Another reason Ron Paul will never be president.
 
Holy shit- 1st time I see the new Youtube animations. Nice!
And in American politics, integrity and probability of being elected are inversely related. Ina perfect world, he would easily destroy all the other candidates. In reality, he has no ****ing chance. Which is beyond sad.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
here's the footage of Ron Paul on Neil Cavuto.

Fox sure loves trying to put words in Ron Pauls mouth.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ZnzGredcIs

once again, he owns everyone in his way.
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Cavuto always strikes me as the sort of guy who was beaten up mercilessly on the playground during 3rd grade recess and just never got over it. A little fat kid crying his eyes out in a grown man's body. Pathetic, just like the rest of FOX.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
here's the footage of Ron Paul on Neil Cavuto.

Fox sure loves trying to put words in Ron Pauls mouth.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ZnzGredcIs

once again, he owns everyone in his way.
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Wow. What a shitty, shitty, shitty interviewer. After every damn statement Ron makes he responds with 'so you're saying that... and spouts some generalizing, simplistic bullshit that isnt even close to what was said'. Then he doesnt even let him finish his damn sentence.
 
Slurpy said:
Wow. What a shitty, shitty, shitty interviewer. After every damn statement Ron makes he responds with 'so you're saying that... and spouts some generalizing, simplistic bullshit that isnt even close to what was said'. Then he doesnt even let him finish his damn sentence.
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It's rather amazing to watch Ron Paul being able to restrain himself from savagely attacking Cavuto. It's as if Cavuto is prodding a giant bear with a stick... no matter how hard he tries, the bear keeps his composure.

Ron Paul really is THE MAN.
 
it can't be stressed enough.

the best part about it, is that when he does get a chance to talk, he serves everyone proper with such beautiful knowledge.

it's sad that regardless of what he says, and how brilliant it is, he's ultra ignored by those interviewing him... well, atleast on Fox.
 
I think it's ironic that Cavuto would probably rank higher than Paul, were he to throw his hat into the ring. If I had that realization, I too might be slightly irritated at the concept of covering this non-candidate's silly gaffes.
 
APF said:
I think it's ironic that Cavuto would probably rank higher than Paul, were he to throw his hat into the ring. If I had that realization, I too might be slightly irritated at the concept of covering this non-candidate's silly gaffes.
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Sadly, I have to agree with you. Cavuto would rank higher in the polls were he to run. It's the same reason that Fred Thompson is pulling in big numbers... he's on TV.
 
MassiveAttack said:
Sadly, I have to agree with you. Cavuto would rank higher in the polls were he to run. It's the same reason that Fred Thompson is pulling in big numbers... he's on TV.
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Thompson is doing well because he has Paul's federalist libertarian domestic policy and a more traditionally hawkish Republican foreign policy. Also, on the whole, he's a better advocate for what he believes in (I like Ron Paul's earnestness, but I'm a political nerd who goes on ideas) For most, Thompson's commanding presence (I can't call it acting- he only plays himself) gives him another advantage over the rest of the Republican field with the exception of Romney.
 
WTF This dude is perfect. Hell I don't entirely agree with everything he says but **** it, If I was American I'd vote for him entirely on the belief that he's an honest guy and would always make the decision that he truthfully thought were right.

This European likes u Ron Paul.
 
DS-61-5 said:
Thompson is doing well because he has Paul's federalist libertarian domestic policy and a more traditionally hawkish Republican foreign policy. Also, on the whole, he's a better advocate for what he believes in (I like Ron Paul's earnestness, but I'm a political nerd who goes on ideas) For most, Thompson's commanding presence (I can't call it acting- he only plays himself) gives him another advantage over the rest of the Republican field with the exception of Romney.
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I had to flush my eyes with saline after reading your post. Thompson is a sham of the highest order and comparing him to Ron Paul is an insult. Is there any corporation on the planet that he didn't want to lobby for? He earned millions as a lobbyist in Washington for years and years but now casts himself as an "outsider" who likes to wear plaid shirts and ride tractors.
 
Even though I like what Paul says during debates, him getting the Republican nomination is really too much of a long shot. He wants to get rid of the department of education? what? He wants to introduce gold as legel tender, which will mean inflation will stop? what? His plans are just too out there, not realistic enough.
 
MassiveAttack said:
I had to flush my eyes with saline after reading your post. Thompson is a sham of the highest order and comparing him to Ron Paul is an insult. Is there any corporation on the planet that he didn't want to lobby for? He earned millions as a lobbyist in Washington for years and years but now casts himself as an "outsider" who likes to wear plaid shirts and ride tractors.
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You're right that Thompson's not an "outsider." He's a well connected non-professional legislator that got out due to disgust and since then has periodically involved himself for noteworthy causes like Justice Roberts' confirmation. (He lobbied for that. THE HORROR!) . But he's no political toady either. He got started in politics by working with Senator Howard Baker to bring down Richard Nixon (Thompson was in fact the lawyer who went after Nixon's people for the taping system). He then went home to Tennessee where he worked to bring down a corrupt governor. Whilst in the Senate, he was John McCain's most loyal lieutenant in fighting corruption.

Thompson earned a million dollars over some twenty years doing lobbying work on the side before entering the Senate. That's about 50k per year- peanuts for a lobbyist, most of whom make many more times that. His lobbying after leaving the Senate was more profitable, but EVERY former Congressman of both parties does that.

Please, carry on with the hyperbole and Paul fetishism. I like Paul; he's one of my favourite Congressmen, and I'm glad to see him bringing a small government message to people who generally aren't receptive of it. With that being said, I'm happy to see more electable candidates conveying much of his message, albeit tempered with a bit of pragmatism, to a broader audience.
 
Thompson's currently my second choice, actually, so I hear ya. Course, that's discounting whomever the L.P. decides to run, who may or may not be someone I'd like to vote for - we'll see.

I'll go after Gules for being wrong on so many major issues, I'll go after Romney for flip-flopping on those same issues, I'll go after McCain for his stupid McCain-Feingold B.S., but I see no reason to dislike Thompson.
 
Thompson is for the war in iraq. get that bullshit out of here. he's also against gay marriage, which just goes to show that he's willing to impose his religious beliefs on others.

RON PAUL FTW
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
Thompson is for the war in iraq. get that bullshit out of here. he's also against gay marriage, which just goes to show that he's willing to impose his religious beliefs on others.

RON PAUL FTW
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Thompson is against the gay marriage amendment and wants social issues dealt with at the state level- the libertarian position that is in line with the Constitution. Also, failing to offer a benefit is not imposing a belief on others, but I don't want to threadjack.

And JayDubya, you should know that Thompson was McCain's point man on ramming through McCain Feingold in accordance with his aforementioned anti corruption efforts. He soon regretted that vote and has praised the recent Court case against it, but it could be considered a bit of a flip flop. That's about the only notable one I can think of.
 
DS-61-5 said:
And JayDubya, you should know that Thompson was McCain's point man on ramming through McCain Feingold in accordance with his aforementioned anti corruption efforts. He soon regretted that vote and has praised the recent Court case against it, but it could be considered a bit of a flip flop. That's about the only notable one I can think of.
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Noted, though I already saw McCain as the least among evils before Paul jumped in. Thompson is better than McCain. Not my first choice, but I'd take him over Hillary / Obama / Edwards / Giuliani / Romney.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
i just re-registered. god, never in a million years did i ever think i would be a registered republican.
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So this gold standard thing, what exactly is Congressman Paul's position? I don't know anything about the gold standard other than William Jennings Bryan hated it.
 
Ron Paul Speaks to 1,000 in Iowa
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

June 30, 2007

DES MOINES, IOWA – Presidential candidate Ron Paul held a rally today celebrating life and liberty at the Hy-Vee Hall in Des Moines, Iowa. The event was held immediately after and next door to a Republican candidates forum sponsored by the Iowa Christian Alliance and Iowans for Tax Relief.

Dr. Paul was the only GOP candidate excluded from the forum, so his campaign organized an event of its own. Despite being planned in less than a week, Dr. Paul's event singlehandedly outdrew the other forum and its six participating candidates by several hundred attendees.

"Today, Ron Paul demonstrated how deeply his message of freedom and limited government is resonating across the nation," said campaign manager Lew Moore.

Dr. Paul, addressing a packed room, received thunderous applause many times and as well as several standing ovations. Observers believe that this event was the biggest rally for a Republican candidate in Iowa during this campaign cycle.

"Ron Paul has generated more grassroots excitement and support than any other candidate in the race," continued Moore. "The campaign is building on this momentum around the country as we drive toward the nomination."
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Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DHOGAIhprSs
 
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