Presidential Candidate Ron Paul's Official Thread

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i just made this...


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now it's time to go stand at a busy intersection.
 
As a person finally able to vote, I never thought I'd be registering republican either. Although, to be fair, I'd have voted for Paul when he ran as a Libertarian so I guess it is ok.

Its sad that its so much of a long shot, but he is doing everything he is doing solely based on ideas. Plus, ladyjade3 is for him. She has probably generated something along the lines of 1000 votes. A hot libertarian mmm mmm mmm.
 
funny that you say that cause the first one i went to was pretty terrible. it was me, and 4 other senior citizens watching Ron Paul stuff on youtube for 40 minutes. they handed out some flyers, and that was that.

i'll make sure to check out the RSVP list next time.
 
MSNBC has him listed at number 9 among other republicans running. Its actually an improvement considering 2 weeks ago he was 11th and 2 weeks before that he was dead last at 12th. He has a long way to go, but at least hes getting more credibility from MSNBC
 
ABC News' George Stephanopoulos Reports: Though often regarded as a longshot candidate for president, Republican Ron Paul tells ABC News that he has an impressive $2.4 million in cash on hand after raising an equal amount during the second quarter, putting him ahead of one-time Republican frontrunner John McCain, who reported this week he has only $2 million in the bank.

In an exclusive interview taped Friday and airing Sunday on "This Week," Paul said his campaign is on a better trajectory than McCain's.

"I think some of the candidates are on the down-slope, and we're on the up-slope," said Paul.

Paul's cash on hand puts him in third place in the Republican field in that important metric, although he is well behind leader Rudy Giuliani, who has $18 million in the bank, and Mitt Romney, with $12 million.

Paul, who polls show with support in the low single digits, said his surprisingly strong fundraising is the best measure of his support.

"I think people have underestimated the number of people in this country who are interested in a freedom message," says the Republican congressman from Texas, who has strong libertarian leanings.

To watch Paul's full interview, tune in to "This Week" on Sunday (check local listings).
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/ron-paul-tops-m.html
 
Press Release: Ron Paul Wins Big

Ron Paul Wins Big in First New Hampshire Straw Poll

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 7, 2007

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Presidential candidate Ron Paul today won the Coalition for New Hampshire Taxpayers (CNHT) straw poll at their annual picnic in Hopkinton, New Hampshire. Dr. Paul received 182 of 294 votes cast, or 65 percent. In second place was Rudy Giuliani with 24 votes, or 8 percent.

"Today's strong victory is further proof that Dr. Paul's message is resonating throughout New Hampshire," said campaign manager Lew Moore. "Dr. Paul is the only candidate in this race truly dedicated to smaller government and lower taxes for all Americans."

CNHT is a statewide, grassroots organization dedicated to reducing the size of government at all levels, stopping judicial activism, providing students and parents with a choice of educational opportunities, expanding job markets, and protecting property rights.
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
Press Release: Ron Paul Wins Big

Ron Paul Wins Big in First New Hampshire Straw Poll

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 7, 2007

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Presidential candidate Ron Paul today won the Coalition for New Hampshire Taxpayers (CNHT) straw poll at their annual picnic in Hopkinton, New Hampshire. Dr. Paul received 182 of 294 votes cast, or 65 percent. In second place was Rudy Giuliani with 24 votes, or 8 percent.

"Today's strong victory is further proof that Dr. Paul's message is resonating throughout New Hampshire," said campaign manager Lew Moore. "Dr. Paul is the only candidate in this race truly dedicated to smaller government and lower taxes for all Americans."

CNHT is a statewide, grassroots organization dedicated to reducing the size of government at all levels, stopping judicial activism, providing students and parents with a choice of educational opportunities, expanding job markets, and protecting property rights.
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Wow... he might actually have a chance!
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
Press Release: Ron Paul Wins Big

Ron Paul Wins Big in First New Hampshire Straw Poll

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 7, 2007

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Presidential candidate Ron Paul today won the Coalition for New Hampshire Taxpayers (CNHT) straw poll at their annual picnic in Hopkinton, New Hampshire. Dr. Paul received 182 of 294 votes cast, or 65 percent. In second place was Rudy Giuliani with 24 votes, or 8 percent.

"Today's strong victory is further proof that Dr. Paul's message is resonating throughout New Hampshire," said campaign manager Lew Moore. "Dr. Paul is the only candidate in this race truly dedicated to smaller government and lower taxes for all Americans."

CNHT is a statewide, grassroots organization dedicated to reducing the size of government at all levels, stopping judicial activism, providing students and parents with a choice of educational opportunities, expanding job markets, and protecting property rights.
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!!
 
I <3 Ron Paul and will be voting for him, but really the group that did the straw poll really couldn't pick any other candidate when you look at what the group represents:P
 
Humphrey Bogart said:
Press Release: Ron Paul Wins Big

Ron Paul Wins Big in First New Hampshire Straw Poll

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 7, 2007

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Presidential candidate Ron Paul today won the Coalition for New Hampshire Taxpayers (CNHT) straw poll at their annual picnic in Hopkinton, New Hampshire. Dr. Paul received 182 of 294 votes cast, or 65 percent. In second place was Rudy Giuliani with 24 votes, or 8 percent.

"Today's strong victory is further proof that Dr. Paul's message is resonating throughout New Hampshire," said campaign manager Lew Moore. "Dr. Paul is the only candidate in this race truly dedicated to smaller government and lower taxes for all Americans."

CNHT is a statewide, grassroots organization dedicated to reducing the size of government at all levels, stopping judicial activism, providing students and parents with a choice of educational opportunities, expanding job markets, and protecting property rights.
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WOW... the RPR gaining strength and numbers.

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tomorrow there's gonna be atleast 20 of us campaigning in front of CBS studios. im sure many more will show up, but im basing this on the current RSVP list.

so what are you guys doing to spread the word?
 
None of this stuff means anything truly imo but I like to bring the Paul fans hope. :D

Year after year, the Fourth of July gathering by the Cobb County GOP is one of the largest in the state. On Thursday, 247 cast votes in a presidential straw poll.

To no one’s surprise, Fred Thompson — who has a fund-raiser in Atlanta on Friday — was the leader. But the fact that Ron Paul and Mitt Romney finished second and third may be significant. Possibly. It was just a straw poll.

Jason Shepherd, the Cobb coordinator of the Georgia Draft Fred Thompson Committee, sent us the break-down:

Fred Thompson: 30 percent;

Ron Paul: 17 percent

Mitt Romney: 15 percent

Mike Huckabee: 13 percent

Newt Gingrich: 12 percent

Rudy Giuliani: 10 percent

John McCain, Tom Tancredo, Jim Gilmore: 1 percent
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http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/sh..._poll_fo.html?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider
 
As long as he doesn't get over excited and enthusiastically yells at a crowd of supporters, he's got a shot. :lol
 
Snaku said:
As long as he doesn't get over excited and enthusiastically yells at a crowd of supporters, he's got a shot. :lol
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erm... I love the guy but he doesn't have a shot. He is like 1% in the polls.

90% of his supporters can't even vote for him in many states since they aren't registered republicans sadly. :lol
 
Cheebs said:
erm... I love the guy but he doesn't have a shot. He is like 1% in the polls.
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How are those "official" poll numbers arrived at, eh?

I don't have a landline and I'm a RP supporter. I'm invisible to the gallup polls.

It's a documented fact that the 18-24 year old demographic is underepresented in official polling by as much as 50%. And when you compared that to the percentage that 18-24 year olds represent in the general election... RP's overall #s could be as high as about 6% at this point, and no one would even know it.
 
GDJustin said:
How are those "official" poll numbers arrived at, eh?

I don't have a landline and I'm a RP supporter. I'm invisible to the gallup polls.

It's a documented fact that the 18-24 year old demographic is underepresented in official polling by as much as 50%. And when you compared that to the percentage that 18-24 year olds represent in the general election... RP's overall #s could be as high as about 6% at this point, and no one would even know it.
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but this is the primaries, not the general. And the primaries are dominated by older voters by a MUUUUUUCH larger percentage than even the general. Go to the Iowa Caucus's in '08. It will be dominated by the elderly.
 
Cheebs said:
but this is the primaries, not the general. And the primaries are dominated by older voters by a MUUUUUUCH larger percentage than even the general. Go to the Iowa Caucus's in '08. It will be dominated by the elderly.
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I spent my entire life in Iowa until this week (just moved to SF), so I don't need a lesson on the Iowa caucus, thanks :)

Regardless of the average age of a primary voter, you can bet your ass that a much, much higher percentage of voters who would support Ron Paul in the general election will turn up to vote in the primaries than the average, say, Mitt Romney supporter. RP's supporters are energized, and know action is needed on their part.

And besides, you're shifting arguments on me :P Your original point was that RP's support was at ~1%, and I pointed out that that wasn't accurate, due to demographic flaws in how the data is gathered. Now you're talking about something completely different.
 
What exactly is the math, there?

If he shows up in a poll at 1%, and youth voters are undercounted by 50%, and every single one of his supporters is a youth voter, that gets him to... 2%.
 
Mandark said:
What exactly is the math, there?

If he shows up in a poll at 1%, and youth voters are undercounted by 50%, and every single one of his supporters is a youth voter, that gets him to... 2%.
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You're the one doing fuzzy math :)

To determine the impact of undercounting the youth dempgraphic, you need to know what percentage they make up in the election itself.

Anyway, here's a couple bits of research on the subject, from third party sources:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/ron-paul-internet-supporters-demographic-data.html
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/articles/ron-paul-natural-boost.html
 
Mandark said:
Please explain how a 50% undercount gets you from 1% to 6%.

Those were your words, remember.
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Ugh. I already did!

Look, just for the sake of argument & for the sake of keeping this simple, let's PRETEND that youth (18-24, 18-29, whatever) make up HALF of the voters in the general election, ok? So for this math demonstration (since you clearly need one), this group represents 50% of the voting population.

Now, AGAIN for the sake of argument, let's pretend that half of this group supports Ron Paul. Lastly, let's pretend that half of this demographic group doesn't have landlines, and is thus invisible to pollsters.

That would leave you with 12.5 points of RP support appearing invisible.

That's an extreme statistical example, but if you take away the extremes, it's exactly what's going on. RP's support skews younger than all other candidates (certainly all other repub. candidates), so this method of landline polling undercounts his supporters more than his peers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this.

In fact, instead of reading this giant explanation, why don't you just read the links I already posted:

I looked at the exit polls for the past 2 elections and noticed that about 15-20% of the voters are 18-29. That is about 1/5 of the voting public.

Ron Paul would undoubtedly fare much better among this small 20% of the public than the other 80%. Now the question to ask is whether this faction of our society is accurately being polled. We feel that for the most part they are fairly included in the polls. Of the pollster data that we have looked at, we have seen that group represented by an average of only about 3% less than would normally vote.

There is a couple of reasons for this small 3% difference that we feel to be because of the fact that a lot of individuals in the age group do not have landline telephones and because of the fact that the pollsters try to focus on those that are likely to vote. But for all the 18-20 year olds that have never had the choice to vote or not, how would the pollsters know who they are likely to vote for? The youth overwhelmingly support a liberal candidate and/or a third party candidate. Case in point is the 2004 election in which this age group voted for Ralph Nader 250% more frequently than the other age groups. For the Republican primaries and caucuses, that rogue candidate that appeals to the youth is Ron Paul and he is running as a Republican.
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Basic math: There's a difference between PERCENT and PERCENTAGE POINTS.

1) "Polls understate the youth vote by 50%." = Polls display youth as 10% of the electorate, when in reality they're 20% of the electorate.

2) "Polls understate the youth vote by 50 percentage points." = Polls display youth as 10% of electorate, when in reality they're 60% of the electorate.

As far as I know, NOBODY is claiming that the youth vote is underrepresented by 50 PERCENTAGE POINTS. Because that would be insane.

If you're saying that the youth vote is underrepresented by 50%, that would mean a correction would double the youth vote, not multiply it by six.

Understand?



PS I clicked those links. The phrase "though I do not have real statistical proof to back up that claim" seems to be pretty central to the argument. It's amateur hour over there.
 
I saw about 10 Ron Paul homemade banners around town this weekend. So which one of you is driving around Memphis putting up banners?
 
What's with all the V for Vendetta pictures and rhetoric? Alan Moore, was an anarchist, and though their politics may overlap in certain areas (anti-war, government intrusion in personal lives, etc), Moore abhors the "free" market gospel that is the backbone of libertarian politics.
 
reggieandTFE said:
What's with all the V for Vendetta pictures and rhetoric? Alan Moore, was an anarchist, and though their politics may overlap in certain areas (anti-war, government intrusion in personal lives, etc), Moore abhors the "free" market gospel that is the backbone of libertarian politics.
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They're not taking it that deep. The Ron Paul Revolution is the conservative version of "Raging against the machine".
 
reggieandTFE said:
What's with all the V for Vendetta pictures and rhetoric? Alan Moore, was an anarchist, and though their politics may overlap in certain areas (anti-war, government intrusion in personal lives, etc), Moore abhors the "free" market gospel that is the backbone of libertarian politics.
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I dunno, Anarcho-capitalism is pretty awesome. And :lol at your free in quotation marks.

I do think V is a terrible thing to associate Ron Paul with, though. V is a anarchist and a terrorist - Paul is a libertarian paleoconservative. While Paul would happily see a lot of government real estate go bye-bye, I don't think he'd advocate blowing it all up, sooooo...
 
WingM@n said:
Damn George is such an asshole
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That's the problem with modern journalism is that they can't resist the temptation to insert themselves in the story. He could have made roughly the same point and asked his question with going there.

Now I could and would post exactly what he said here on GAF but I'm not a journalist.
 
Stoney Mason said:
That's the problem with modern journalism is that they can't resist the temptation to insert themselves in the story. He could have made roughly the same point and asked his question with going there.

Now I could and would post exactly what he said here on GAF but I'm not a journalist.
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This is the heart of the issue. Stephanopoulos seems himself as something of a celebrity and flatly states, "That's not going to happen" rather than as an interviewer who should simply ask, "Do you think that's going to happen?"

There is a massive difference between the two approaches and in the first, Stephanopoulos comes off as particularly mean-spirited which seems to catch Ron Paul by surprise.
 
It's amazing that Ron Paul caught his first headline just on May 15th. People, that was not even two months ago, and now he has more cash on hand for his campaign than former front-runner McCain.

Let's keep this going on.
 
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