you don't need to say a single positive thing for it to be a review.
"Previously Recorded" review The Order 1886
- Thread starter Gattsu25
- Start date
- Status
They show exactly what he is talking about. Go to 2:40 in the video to see it. A cutscene is triggered during a struggle, but there is absolutely no consequence to whether or not you press X. The struggle animation just keeps looping infinitely. This is pretty much the definition of "press X to continue cutscene".
It's RedLetterMedia, their videos are mostly just for fun and entertainment. Still some of the best reviewers out there, though.
Yes, it was a request as such. Did he not also create one of the best and most satisfying weapons in the game too, and a device for rudimentary hacking? Building a scope was far from all he did.
He factually did more than that, plus there's readable fluff scattered around.
Does such a thing even exist? I've seen this comment aimed at other groups on this forum and it is almost always met with much derision. I find it a little telling it's gone completely unchecked here.
The game does not force you to crouch in stealth sections, nor is stealth only limited to one section in the game and can be used more dynamically. That claim would be absolutely incorrect, particularly in the biggest stealth section.
I've not watched the video yet but if they're pushing the above and similar neither do I particularly have a want to.
Auto-Reply
Member
That was great, "No innocent men are killed until I say so" 50 deaths later "Now, the proof?" lol
The Dutch Slayer
Member
MurkyZebra2417
Member
You probably all didn't play the game, but I will say it anyways:
The Gunplay is very very good in this game and very satisfying.
And most encounters are really good and intense.
You won't get that by watching reviews and waltroughs on youtube.
And like I said in some other threads, I like a more "cinematic" game every now and then. Not every game has to be open world or reinvent the gerne. Arguing with "Next-Gen" gameplay stuff, every game this gen should have gotten the same reviews as The Order, because I played most and not one game did "Next-Gen" Gameplay (whatever the fuck that acutally means).
Does the review skip the dialogue you get during play? Not that there's a huge amount of it during that section but it is there and definitely refers to the "No killing" part.
Haunted
Member
I thought you were talking metaphorically.
I didn't expect it to be literally that. :lol
MurkyZebra2417
Member
edit: nvm, Different scene of the game
it's not fake, that's how they are.
cheezcake
Member
Yeh I didn't like this review style at all, felt like I was watching a Bioware game with all the awkward gaps in talking.
Admittedly I've seen more of the game than I've played. I've only played the game for 15 minutes at a friends house, and what I played didn't impress me to say the least (other than graphics). The gunplay was bog standard, and the encounter I played was horrible. It started off with my path being blocked by a shoulder height cart forcing me to backtrack slightly and go through a random building, the exit out of the building was boarded up a by a bunch of thick wooden planks which I had to button prompt to crash through. Now at this point I was thinking wouldn't going over the cart or blowing it up with a grenade have been much easier than crash tackling 5-6 thick wooden planks? Or god forbid give the player the choice of taking the building pathway or going through the cart someway or the other. But anyway, then we got to the encounter, which consisted of infinitely spawning dudes. It was literally just kill them, move up slightly, more dudes spawned to take cover slightly further back, kill them, move up and repeat until you get out of the area. Boring. as . fuck. And the encounters I've seen in reviews and other gameplay snippets seem to pretty much be the same except in different locations.
Galahad assures himself to be trusted?
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Ah, the Dock scene. Well they get attacked by the Guards. Maybe he should have just let himself be shot dead.
What?
MurkyZebra2417
Member
What, what? Did you play the game?
They try to infiltrate the Docks and then get attacked by the Guards. They fire back.
I bet The Order is the first game ever that something like this has happend.
JonathanPower
Member
Yeah, I totally agree. For example, it seems like they resorted to stuff like QTE because they didn't have enough budget to design a real time hand to hand combat system. This game really is all about visuals.
Isnt that the whole point of the review? The game is just cliche upon cliche.
I think you have character names messed up. I have played it by the way.
What heathen doesn't enjoy the laughter of Rich Evans? Also they've been working together for at least a couple years now (along with others from RLM). I recommend checking out Best of the Worst (or Wheel of the Worst).
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Yeah....because most AAA-experiences (Gears of War, Uncharted, etc...) aren't clichè ....
Totally a solid argument why a game sucks.
No, there are two scenes where they try the stealthy approach.
When you infiltrate the Warehouse with the Rebel leader Gallahad doesn't want to kill guards. They then do so because they get fired on.
And when you sneak into the United India Headquartes Alistair doesn't want you to kill guards. Gallahad does it anyways because he already had proof that they are the bad guys and assures Alistair to trust him
And when you sneak into the United India Headquartes Alistair doesn't want you to kill guards. Gallahad does it anyways because he already had proof that they are the bad guys and assures Alistair to trust him
King Beyond the wall
Member
I enjoyed playing this game, but everything they say is true and well reasoned.
Ah I get you now. Thought we were talking about the other chapter.
They never said that the game had to be open world. They essentially said that it was uninspired and didn't do anything better than a game that released 8 or so years ago.
They also said in the review that the use of tropes isn't necessarily bad. You might actually want to watch the video the thread is about...
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I don't think I like the style of these videos. It's like half planned and edited, half off the cuff conversation with tiny slivers of an LP mixed in. Plus that one guy (I think he's Plinket in HITB) has a pretty annoying voice when he starts shouting. Kind of reminds me of Linkara when he gets ranting.
The analysis is not detailed enough to be the final word on this game by any means. It's fairly shallow and they misrepresent context or get things wrong in a couple of places. Not the kind of detailed, brutal take-down I was hoping for. Does anybody do game reviews like that? Some of the RPG Codex postmortem type deals are like that I guess, all text though.
The analysis is not detailed enough to be the final word on this game by any means. It's fairly shallow and they misrepresent context or get things wrong in a couple of places. Not the kind of detailed, brutal take-down I was hoping for. Does anybody do game reviews like that? Some of the RPG Codex postmortem type deals are like that I guess, all text though.
The boss to boss comparison was the best. hahaha
Auto-Reply
Member
I think so, it was just funny the way they cut it together. Is the main character really asking her for the proof, and is not sure himself yet after having shot several people that could have been very well innocent, just doing their jobs?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
LOL THAT ENDINGfantastic review well done on all fronts.
I know... They should do book reviews as well and at the end of each episode throw the books they disliked into a fire...
Seriously, if this game were as garbage as some people are having fun labeling it at I would understand the amount of humiliation people want to see this game subjected at... I have to disagree with that though.
You should have played gems like Spawn on PSOne though: review scores going far in the negative scale
.MurkyZebra2417
Member
No, I can't sit trough something like this. I watched a few bits and that was more than enough.
I always find the argument "doesn't do better than a game released X years ago" funny, because when you ask people about their favorite games it are 90% of the time games released 5+ years ago. So, what is so bad if a game is JUST as good (gameplay wise) as a game 5 years ago? Why does every game need to be something completly new? I would gladly play a game like God of War 3 again, 100% same gameplay, new SP, it would be glorious.
And you could argue that Order does something "new", the filmic approach and the seemless transitions between Cutscenes and Gameplay is better done than in any previous games. But that is a "bad" new apparently, because people always imagine things games should be instead of judging them for what they are.
Wow! Filmic approach and transitions! 10/10!
Seriously though, the awkward focus on this by the developer is exactly why this discussion and criticism, and the review, is legitimate. It has been the perfect storm for the game and its developers to end up in this mess.
Always-honest
Banned
They burned it?
Okay, wow they must be really cool and stuff.
Okay, wow they must be really cool and stuff.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I'm really not sure how I'm supposed to feel about Rich Evans being compared to Linkara. Obnoxious laugh aside (which the RLM crew constantly poke fun at; he's well aware how he sounds when he gets loud) I still feel he's able to analyze works far more effectively than the latter ever could.
Can't comment on The Order 1886 since I've never played it, but Previously Recorded does admittedly feel a bit less structured and well-researched as just about every other Half in the Bag or Plinket review does. Makes sense since most of these guys either work in the movie industry or went to film school and that's their main calling, but in comparison their games analysis sometimes feels either out of touch or winds up repeating the same criticisms other outlets or independent commentators have had for years.
Based ghst.
Because Mike hates videogames.
In certain sections I think it would have been pretty trivial to fit tranquilliser rounds (especially in
the gardens where you are given a unique weapon not used in the rest of the game)
ProfessorMoran
Member
The fact that the gameplay control was taken away so often and RAD made everything so linear, restrictive and autopilot felt very frustrating, this is Dana Jan's first serious failure as a game director, very poor gameplay design instincts in this one.
killu4what
Member
That has not stopped many others.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
It's pretty obvious the RLM crew played this game extensively if they were able to rip it to shreds this efficiently along with tons of very specific examples.
This is my first experience watching their game review side. It seemed pretty damn thorough. Is their other gaming stuff this good?
I'd hate to be a dev that worked on the game and watch something like that. Then again, who knows went on behind the scenes? Some of the writing decisions do seem bizarrely sloppy. The ending is indefensible.
- Status