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[Fixed2BeBroken]

After watching this, it's kind of blowing me away that Heavy Rain, of all the big cinematic wannabe movie-games, holds up better as a storytelling experience than this one and offers a greater sense of player agency despite it not offering as much traditional gameplay.

heavy rain was good stuff.

I'm amazed that this game gets so much attention on GAF...it's a beautiful piece of shit, I'll give it that.

I watched a few parts of the video, but hated it so I don't need to sit trough 30 minutes of it. Better things to do.

Like proving the video wrong!

"Oh, I didn't really say that, it just totally read like that and everybody would understand it that way, but I didn't spell out the words"

Oh no, I'm fairly certain I never said "this game is shit" nor implied my own personal judgement on it...but rather spoke about the general consensus. I haven't played it yet so im not 100% sure, but based on general consensus, there seems to be more bad things than good. That doesn't have to do with whether I would enjoy it or not and whether I think the game is pure shit yet cause again, I haven't played it. I do agree with a few others about the fact that someone can enjoy a bad product though (in the sense there are more bad things than good).

 

[tuna_love]

I watched a few parts of the video, but hated it so I don't need to sit trough 30 minutes of it. Better things to do.

Doesn't look like it.

 

[jett]

PR's shining moment, their best review yet probably. Going off what from what I've seen, they gave The Order what it deserves.

 

[T.O.P]

All these Order defenders who can't even watch a video, the one thing you'd think they would be able to handle.

#dead

 

[Dictator93]

Is this the first review which focuses wholly on the narrative elements / aka judging the game by what it presents?

I did not know it ended with a gunshot fade to black. Oh my.

 

[twobear]

honestly based on that review i can see why reviewers gave this game 4/10

their deconstruction of the plot is breathtaking

Spoiler

DRACULA IS USING THE WEREWOLVES SO HE CAN BE JACK THE RIPPER

if only they'd realised how utterly b-movie the narrative they were building was, they could have at least made it schlocky, and then it would have had campy entertainment value

 

[Dark-Cloudz]

This is actually very funny.

He reminds me of Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. In terms of his voice and indignation, anyway.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

I love the "Don't buy this game" recommendation two minutes into the 30 minute video lmao.

 

[GoaThief]

I did not know it ended with a gunshot fade to black. Oh my.

It doesn't, it's a snap cut to credits and to be fair that isn't inherently a bad thing either.

Spoiler

La Haine

did this and it is a fantastic film.

I cannot recall

Spoiler

Dracula

being referenced in the game either, whilst I think on it.

 

[BassForever]

I compared it to other games reviewed like the Order, because he said "the general consensus is"....

I don't ask anyone to accept my opinion. I say it is a good game. Fuck the general consensus. Maybe people should just start PLAYING games and forming an opionion and not say "game xy sucks, because the review says it and I watched a Walktrough"

its okay to ackowledge a game you like is incredibly flawed. I enjoyed the heck out of other m yet I totally get why people despise its story and gameplay even if I found the gameplay to be good the general consensus flaws aren't wrong.

I watched a few parts of the video, but hated it so I don't need to sit trough 30 minutes of it. Better things to do.

All these Order defenders who can't even watch a video, the one thing you'd think they would be able to handle.

LOL

I find it ironic that the guy saying "I played the game and made my own opinion" and arguinf againdt the general consensus has spent more time defending the game and not watching the video then it would have taken to watch the video and given a proper response to things in the video. Perhaps the people defending this game and bashing the review should watch the full review instead of making a general consensus about the review content from our comments about it and the few clips they say on youtube

 

[Llyrwenne]

While I agree with much of what they said (The story suffers from poor writing and unnecessarily implemented clichés, the ending was a train-wreck, the final boss being a carbon-copy of an earlier fight was insultingly lazy and enemy variety was minimal.), I think their rant on button-prompts was a bit misguided and the way they shifted to almost outright hate towards the end was unneeded, but I fully understand their frustrations. The video was entertaining to watch.

DISCLAIMER: WHAT FOLLOWS DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS SPECIFIC REVIEW OR ANY OTHER SPECIFIC REVIEW OR POST.

I played The Order 1886 and had those same problems with the story, the ending and certain sections of gameplay, but the gunplay, setting and visuals / presentations were good enough that I still found myself enjoying the game. Despite that enjoyment though, I would probably never unconditionally recommend the game to anyone.

The problem I have with some of the vitriolic hate being spewed around on forums at the game is that most of it comes from people that have not actually played the game and are just parroting the sentiments / opinions / criticisms of others and then claiming that this is just their own 'legitimate criticism'. I really dislike this trend, as it discourages forming your own opinions and just results in people jumping on a bandwagon "Because X said Y and I trust them, so Y must be right and me repeating Y is just me giving honest and legitimate criticism on a book I haven't read / a movie I haven't watched / a game I haven't played and everyone not falling in line with Y is wrong / a fanboy / a defender.". If you have not played the game, yet come into threads like this to tell people who did that their opinions are wrong, you should really reevaluate what you are doing here. I watched RLM's review on Boyhood and feel like I would probably feel the same if I had seen the movie myself, but I haven't seen the movie myself, so I see no point or merit in going into a thread about Boyhood so I can parrot their opinions / criticisms and then act as if I'm just making 'legitimate criticism'.

A lot of the 'hate' also seems to be aimed at what The Order is trying to be rather than its actual failings, i.e. people claiming in one form or another that 'cinematic' games are inherently bad or shit and doomed to fail or claiming that The Order is 'everything that's wrong with AAA gaming'. There is nothing wrong with The Order 1886 trying to be what it wants to be. The problem isn't that The Order is trying to be a more 'cinematic' game, the problem is in its failings to deliver that properly. There is nothing inherently wrong with focusing on certain aspects of a game over another, nor is any type of game inherently 'less legitimate' than another. RAD wanted to make a specific type of game and they failed to deliver a good game; the point of discussion shouldn't be that that specific type of game they wanted to make is somehow inherently bad, the discussion should be about how the game failed and why.

Similarly, I find it increasingly annoying that some people think that pointing out something as 'generic' is criticism in and of itself. Something being 'generic' does not automatically make that thing bad. Bioshock has generic traversal and shooting mechanics; doe that make Bioshock inherently bad? Portal has generic shooting mechanics, does that make Portal bad? Forza has generic driving mechanics, does that make Forza a bad racing game? Half-Life has generic movement mechanics, does that make Half-Life bad? the Last of Us has generic shooting and traversal mechanics, does that make it bad? Etc., Etc. Yes, the shooting mechanics of The Order are generic, but that does not make the gunplay bad. The gunplay is one of the most solid aspects of the game and is definitely not the problem. The problem is that the level / scenario design never evolves beyond 'room with piece of cover at the start for you to sit behind while enemy charges you or otherwise locks you down in that piece of cover', and thus the gunplay never really gets a chance to shine. Generic mechanics are essential to games and are rarely actually core to why a game fails. If all you have to say about why you don't like or enjoy something is that 'it's generic', then you are doing a horrible job at identifying / communicating the actual problems of whatever you're discussing.

And just to re-iterate this; I am of the opinion that The Order has several serious problems and as such would not unconditionally recommend it to anyone; I am not trying to defend the game from criticism. I am not here trying to deflect criticism of the game, nor am I here to support others in their enjoyment of the game. I am here because I feel that some posts are unnecessarily vitriolic and / or are just parroting the findings of others just to piss on the game or make a disingenuous attempt to discredit people that hold a different opinion. I also believe that some of the discussion / hostility aimed at what type of game The Order is trying to be is misguided and that a lot of people are unable to communicate what their actual problems with the game are, seemingly content with simplifying it to 'it's generic'.

 

[GoaThief]

I don't believe anyone is insinuating The Order is flawless, quite the contrary.

Perhaps the people defending this game and bashing the review should watch the full review instead of making a general consensus about the review content from our comments about it and the few clips they say on youtube

I don't think it's unfair to say it doesn't make for a decent review when plenty of factual inaccuracies and misrepresentations have been addressed in this very thread. Perhaps some do not wish to reward the creators by viewing the video, and it's perfectly acceptable to discuss points related to it in this thread. By that logic people criticising The Order should do the same and fully play and explore the game? I am not an advocate of that as it is reasonable to know if you will like or dislike something in advance.

 

[Marcel]

All these Order defenders who can't even watch a video, the one thing you'd think they would be able to handle.

We all better take cover because this guy's dropping napalm.

 

[cacildo]

I think its my first post in a The Order thread...


...but the thing is: its selling a lot, right?

I remember i saw an UK top sellers list and it was the first?

 

[FZW]

You didn't even play the game, am I right?
Good:
- Graphics
- Gunplay
- Cutscenes
- Presentation
- Sound & Voice Acting

Medium:
- Story
- Length
- Stealth section

Bad:
- Lycan encounters

Doesnt graphics, cutscenes, sound and voice acting fall under presentation? It seems like youre unnecessarily padding the good points. Also the 'medium' section should be renamed to 'slightly bad' while the 'bad' section should be renamed to 'really bad'

The story was filled with plot holes and felt like a prologue more than anything. The length is ridiculously short ( I plat the game in one day) for a $60 game. Normally this is forgivable if it had a sense of closure or completeness but thats entirely absent here. The stealth section is just an exercise in frustration, the complete opposite of fun.

Just be honest with yourself, Presentation and gunplay are the only two good things about this game. If thats enough for you to enjoy then fine, but that doesnt make it a good game.

 

[EL CUCO]

I couldn't sit through the first 3 minutes of this review. A solid 1/10

 

[flkraven]

Where does Metacritic put a rating of "It's garbage", followed by the reviewers literally setting the game on fire on their scale?

7/10

 

[Oni Jazar]

For a couple of film critics they sure shot and edited that video horribly. It was painful to watch those cuts to empty laughter and jarring backgrounds.

I agree with a lot of their points mostly the ones on story. It's a horrible failure that they unfortunately hung the entire game on given that it's light on gameplay. However I feel that the gameplay that IS there is actually fun IMO. Personally the visuals went a long way to bring me into the game.

I do hope to see a sequel with actual care taken to the story and AI.

 

[Harlequin]

Not only do they not like it, but Jack says it's the most offensive game he's ever played... and they then proceed to set it on fire over a bed of matches, meticulously placed to spell out "fuck you".

Oh yay. I mean, I knew the definition of "review" was being stretched quite a bit in games media but I didn't know it had become a synonym for "mindlessly hating on things".

 

[Beelzebufo]

I couldn't sit through the first 3 minutes of this review. A solid 1/10

They never actually gave it a numerical rating haha, but yeah that sounds about right.

Oh yay. I mean, I knew the definition of "review" was being stretched quite a bit in games media but I didn't know it had become a synonym for "mindlessly hating on things".

Remember reviews for games like Superman 64 and Ninjabreas man? It's not even exclusive to games, just watch an Ebert review for a film he really hates haha. Why would they say nice things about a game they hate?

 

[Marcel]

Oh yay. I mean, I knew the definition of "review" was being stretched quite a bit in games media but I didn't know it had become a synonym for "mindlessly hating on things".

The Previously Recorded video is still more entertaining than your 'this world is so corrupt' tier hand-wringing about the state of the gaming media.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

I think its my first post in a The Order thread...


...but the thing is: its selling a lot, right?

I remember i saw an UK top sellers list and it was the first?

We actually don't have much of an idea. It sold decently it seemed in UK, but was that just the first week? Sure, sales are front loaded, but that can be the difference between 800k-1 mil to 3-5 mil.

In any case, how well it sells is rather irrelevant to the discussion of the quality of the game.

Haven't watched the video yet, though some quotes I've seen make it sound more like the outlet is being a bit disengenuous (Tesla making a scope would be laughable if it was treated like this big thing all by itself...but scoped weapons weren't really a thing then, was presented in a [unnecessary] tutorial, and you see quite a few other weapons of Tesla that show the brilliance).

My issue with the story wasn't necessarily the presented content of itself. It's that nearly everything is unearned and lacks punch to the presentation. None of the revelations have weight because either the presentation of it is lacking or we know little to nothing of the individuals involved. We can't even really care much for this business with the rebels and the half breeds at the onset because we know jack shit about any of that business. It's everything behind that content that's the issue rather than the content itself, IMO.

 

[MilkyJoe]

Just watched this, that was so funny, can't believe some of the stuff they mentioned. RLM is great.

 

[call_kotaku]

I watched a few parts of the video, but hated it so I don't need to sit trough 30 minutes of it. Better things to do.

Arguing in a thread about the video for hours?

 

[Marcel]

Funny to see people view Red Letter Media as some sort of serious media outlet rather than a bunch of dudes making informal review videos in an "among friends" sort of discussion format.

The GAF bubble is pretty thick.

 

[Percy]

Never heard of them.

 

[Leafhopper]

All these Order defenders who can't even watch a video, the one thing you'd think they would be able to handle.

Oh wow.

 

[mejin]

Well, we will never see a game being so despised as the Order on the internet...RAD can't catch a break.

 

[Derpyduck]

All these Order defenders who can't even watch a video, the one thing you'd think they would be able to handle.

Haha best post.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Funny to see people view Red Letter Media as some sort of serious media outlet rather than a bunch of dudes making informal review videos in an "among friends" sort of discussion format.

The GAF bubble is pretty thick.

Rich Evans's laugh is a serious breach of games journalism code of conduct. It's a sad state for the industry when something with that laugh in it is what the "best" journalists in the industry are putting out.

And that's without even touching the bias present in burning the game at the end of the review. I can't believe that's what passes for integrity these days.

 

[Marcel]

Well, we will never see a game being so despised as the Order on the internet...RAD can't catch a break.

I guess you missed out on the mindless hyperbole about MGS4 or Dark Souls 2.

 

[Derpyduck]

I guess you missed out on the mindless hyperbole about MGS4 or Dark Souls 2.

And Diablo 3. And The Sims. And Watch Dogs. And AC Unity.

 

[Harlequin]

The Previously Recorded video is still more entertaining than your 'this world is so corrupt' tier hand-wringing about the state of the gaming media.

Lots of stupid things are entertaining to lots of people.

Spoiler

(Someone's probably going to quote this and say "Yeah, for example The Order." but whatever .)

 

[Marcel]

Lots of stupid things are entertaining to lots of people.

Spoiler

(Someone's probably going to quote this and say "Yeah, for example The Order." but whatever .)

You thinking a Red Letter Media video is "game journalism" and childishly whining about your misrepresentation is dumber than anything else on this page, bar none.

 

[Percy]

And Diablo 3. And The Sims. And Watch Dogs. And AC Unity.

I've seen the review threads for most of those games mentioned, and I did not see anything close to the open celebration of every low review score that was present in the Order's review thread.

The severity with which this game has been treated has most definitely been in a league of it's own from what I've seen.

 

[Beaulieu]

This is actually very funny.

He reminds me of Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia. In terms of his voice and indignation, anyway.

and how he dresses.
seriously, why does he dress like that.

 

[Ricky_R]

Actually, Angry Joe's review was much better than this one. They made some good points, but it was kinda annoying the majority of the time. It didn't help that they're really not funny, but conducted the whole review as if they were.

 

[Marcel]

I've seen the review threads for most of those games mentioned, and I did not see anything close to the open celebration of every low review score that was present in the Order's review thread.

The severity with which this game has been treated has most definitely been in a league of it's own from what I've seen.

If your memory only has a half-life of a few months, I guess you would be right.

 

[GoaThief]

You thinking a Red Letter Media video is "game journalism" and childishly whining about your misrepresentation is dumber than anything else on this page, bar none.

In his defence there are numerous people on here (including the OP) who presenting it as such, and that it is a "great review".

As you imply above, as a pandering entertainment piece it seems to be quite successful and that's fine.

The severity with which this game has been treated has most definitely been in a league of it's own from what I've seen.

I somewhat agree, Destiny has to be quite close though.

 

[Derpyduck]

I've seen the review threads for most of those games mentioned, and I did not see anything close to the open celebration of every low review score that was present in the Order's review thread.

The severity with which this game has been treated has most definitely been in a league of it's own from what I've seen.

Enough with the hyperbole and pearl clutching. This game is just bad. It got called out for being a bad game. Lots of games have that happen. The degree to which it's happened to The Order isn't anywhere near on par with how a game like Destiny was received.

 

[1.21Gigawatts]

You didn't even play the game, am I right?
Good:
- Graphics
- Gunplay
- Cutscenes
- Presentation
- Sound & Voice Acting

Medium:
- Story
- Length
- Stealth section

Bad:
- Lycan encounters

And how can we not talk about my take on it? The reviewers don't give an objective perspective... they didn't like some things I, and many others, like.... It is always subjective

I think it is very misleading to devide the game into a few categories and score them.
I also think the graphics are amazing, the gunplay is good and the cutscenes are great, but to me it seems like the game actively tries to suck all the enjoyment out of the good parts.

While graphics are good the game world is completely static and not worth exploring. Collectibles are meaningless and few, levels are linear, neither is there incentive to go explore nor is there anything to explore.

While gunplay is solid and fun(foundation is great, but level design, enemy AI and weapon variety are very bad) the game takes away control from you whenever it can. It gets frustrating quickly when you just want to play but the game won't let you. It also takes away the fun weapons constantly.

While cutscenes are well played and made, the game throws way to many at you, often with meaningless content. It also breaks cutscenes up with stupid, meaningless button prompts. Like they show in the review, often its just "press x to continue cutscene".

I even liked the story apart from the beginning and the ending. So yeah, I'd say graphics, story and gunplay are good, but the whole package is still very, very bad because they managed to suck the fun out of the good parts with their horrible design choices.


Edit: Thats also why Im very worried about a sequel, because The Order isn't bad because the devs lacked talent for tight gameplay or anything. To me the game seems as if its exactly what they wanted. But their vision is just not fun to me(and seemingly thats the case for most people).
Its not that they weren't able to make a good game but that they didn't want to make one(I'm sure they thought what they envisioned would be fun but it wasn't).
So unless they completely change their approach I have little hope for a sequel.
Cut all the bullshit. Cut the bullshit QTEs, cut the slow walking, cut the useless cutscenes and spent a lot more time and making the gunplay more fun. Instead of investing in nicely design corridores and character outfits, make some more creative weapons. Instead of having boring dialoge between secondary characters cut all the unimportant stuff and only use cutscenes for important dialoge that pushes the story forward. Spent more time to build some fun levels. Add verticality(I figure verticality wouldn't work to weel with the 21:9 aspect ratio), add better AI, add more enemy diversity. Make they levels more open. Give players space to explore and place some things in so so that exploring is worthwhile.

Those things I just mentioned aren't some outlandish, crazy tips. I'm sure every gamedesign knows that this stuff would make a game more fun. I'm sure it came up in meetings at RAD, but they actively decided to prioritise other things and thats why I'm worried about a sequel.

 

[Haunted]

I watched a few parts of the video, but hated it so I don't need to sit trough 30 minutes of it. Better things to do.

clearly

 

[staticneuron]

There was only one bad thing about the game? Dang, this game must be pretty awesome. I shoulda preordered this!

Doesn't "gunplay" fall into the category of gameplay? So the Gameplay is great? Is that right?

Doesn't cutscenes fall into the category of presentation? or those like separate things now in the "Next Gen"?

Doesnt graphics, cutscenes, sound and voice acting fall under presentation? It seems like youre unnecessarily padding the good points. Also the 'medium' section should be renamed to 'slightly bad' while the 'bad' section should be renamed to 'really bad'

The story was filled with plot holes and felt like a prologue more than anything. The length is ridiculously short ( I plat the game in one day) for a $60 game. Normally this is forgivable if it had a sense of closure or completeness but thats entirely absent here. The stealth section is just an exercise in frustration, the complete opposite of fun.

Just be honest with yourself, Presentation and gunplay are the only two good things about this game. If thats enough for you to enjoy then fine, but that doesnt make it a good game.

What is with this? Have you guys not played a game with good presentation but bad cutscenes. Example for me was, killzone 3. Great presentation overall, seemingly illogical and rushed cutscenes. Gunplay could be fine but, you could hate movement, melee or simple interaction with the environment. So separating it from gameplay shows a specific highlight.

Sure you can try to boil everything down to a few talking points but if someone wants to highlight a particular element this is the worst response to that because it seems like you are are trying to discredit a particular opinion by trying to generalize them.


I enjoyed the Order and I enjoyed Ryse, I would consider them good games because there are fun to be had. I simply wouldn't consider them great games or must haves. And that is perfectly ok. But it seems like for some people it irks them when somebody likes what they don't like. It never ceases to surprise me how often I see it on forums.

I think it is very misleading to devide the game into a few categories and score them.
I also think the graphics are amazing, the gunplay is good and the cutscenes are great, but to me it seems like the game actively tries to suck all the enjoyment out of the good parts.

While graphics are good the game world is completely static and not worth exploring. Collectibles are meaningless and few, levels are linear, neither is there incentive to go explore nor is there anything to explore.

While gunplay is solid and fun(foundation is great, but level design, enemy AI and weapon variety are very bad) the game takes away control from you whenever it can. It gets frustrating quickly when you just want to play but the game won't let you. It also takes away the fun weapons constantly.

While cutscenes are well played and made, the game throws way to many at you, often with meaningless content. It also breaks cutscenes up with stupid, meaningless button prompts. Like they show in the review, often its just "press x to continue cutscene".

I even liked the story apart from the beginning and the ending. So yeah, I'd say graphics, story and gunplay are good, but the whole package is still very, very bad because they managed to suck the fun out of the good parts with their horrible design choices.

I must be one of the few that actually like the ending. I say those three things are good, my specific complaints won't be about the cutscenes specifically but can be summed up in one word. Pacing. Poor pacing at the start for gameplay, cutscenes and other meaningful interaction. It leads to illogical long walks down corridors you cannot sprint down. I forgive them because of size of teem and the fact that it looks like they had to create the engine. Hopefully releasing this gives them the leg up to invest more time and resources into other aspects of the title. I wouldn't mind a sequel at all, as long as they learn to fix the pacing issues.

 

[Zabka]

Actually, Angry Joe's review was much better than this one. They made some good points, but it was kinda annoying the majority of the time. It didn't help that they're really not funny, but conducted the whole review as if they were.

What would you give this review on a scale of 1 to 10?

 

[Marcel]

I enjoyed the Order and I enjoyed Ryse, I would consider them good games because there are fun to be had. I simply wouldn't consider them great games or must haves. And that is perfectly ok. But it seems like for some people it irks them when somebody likes what they don't like. It never ceases to surprise me how often I see it on forums.

I think the bigger problem is seeing the person with an opposing opinion as being 'irked'. You can have a negative opinion about a game without being frustrated and vice versa.

Over-emotive, misrepresentative, and hyperbolic bullshit about video games on both sides is the real culprit here.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

What would you give this review on a scale of 1 to 10?

7.8/10, I really wanted to give this review a higher score due to how visceral this video was but I just can't get over how much of hack fraud Rich Evans is

 

[call_kotaku]

What is with this? Have you guys not played a game with good presentation but bad cutscenes. Example for me was, killzone 3. Great presentation overall, seemingly illogical and rushed cutscenes. Gunplay could be fine but, you could hate movement, melee or simple interaction with the environment. So separating it from gameplay shows a specific highlight.

Sure you can try to boil everything down to a few talking points but if someone wants to highlight a particular element this is the worst response to that because it seems like you are are trying to discredit a particular opinion by trying to generalize them.


I enjoyed the Order and I enjoyed Ryse, I would consider them good games because there are fun to be had. I simply wouldn't consider them great games or must haves. And that is perfectly ok. But it seems like for some people it irks them when somebody likes what they don't like. It never ceases to surprise me how often I see it on forums.

It seems like more people are irked by people disliking what they like

I feel like people will become less attached and defensive about exclusives of dubious (or atleast controversial) quality like Ryse, Driveclub, and The Order once the platforms get a better stable of exclusive games. People stopped feeling defensive about Knack after a while

EDIT: same with Killzone

 

[Percy]

If your memory only has a half-life of a few months, I guess you would be right.

Well, I don't recall any of the games mentioned uniting people who had not played it in such unwavering certainty of it's low quality on (apparently) all fronts or having their review threads locked by moderators due to the level of trolling going on, but if I'm simply forgetting this occurring, feel free to provide any examples that show where my error lies.

I somewhat agree, Destiny has to be quite close though.

Yeah, Destiny was definitely a bad one. It would certainly be close I agree.

 

[Gattsu25]

In his defence there are numerous people on here (including the OP) who presenting it as such, and that it is a "great review".

As you imply above, as a pandering entertainment piece it seems to be quite successful and that's fine.

I think your mistating my position. While I'm a fan of the RLM guys' film-based content I would never call them journalists. Personally, I haven't seen a single example of a dedicated youtube channel that I would even classify as approaching journalism.

I just thought this review (which was also the first PR video I've seen) was entertaining enough to be worth a thread as it had me belly laughing the entire way through.

 

[packy34]

Oh yay. I mean, I knew the definition of "review" was being stretched quite a bit in games media but I didn't know it had become a synonym for "mindlessly hating on things".

This is kind of RLM's schtick though. They have a popular series called "Best of the Worst" in which they watch 3 bad movies and then destroy the worst one in creative ways. They said The Order was so bad and so offensive that they felt they needed to do it here too. I don't really agree that it was offensively bad but I can't deny that it was funny.