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[Kacho]

Half of the videos in my YouTube feed are critical of the PS5 Pro. Big swing and miss for Sony’s PR department.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I don't see how the PS6 doesn't cost that much.

But more importantly, I don't see the PS6 coming in two years. I see it coming in another 4 years. So in 2028.... at the earliest.

Consoles tend to go up in price. If this system is $700 with no disc drive. No doubt PS6 will be $800. Maybe more.

How many times has a makers new console went down in price? Off top of my head, Dreamcast was a steal at $200 as Sega went balls deep on a good system at good value vs Saturn. PS4 went $400 vs $600 PS3 but that was due to PS3 BR being super expensive tech. Dedicated BR players were $800-1000 at launch. Prices dropped a lot years later. Not sure how many other examples there are. Systems either are same price or cost more almost every time.

 

[Audiophile]

 

[Flabagast]

Damn it’s like $959.99 here in Canada BEFORE taxes! I may get it at a later date depending on how 3rd party support goes (a lot lazy efforts on the ps4 pro).

I don’t see this selling a lot tbh so I really don’t think a lot of 3rd party devs will put in the effort to make worthwhile upgrades to their games. In 90% of the cases it will most probably be quality preset at 60fps (if the trash CPU enables it) and not much else really. Maybe for some that’s enough to justify the price

For the others I would really advise people to wait and see what is the true nature of enhancements made by 3rd parties before making the purchase decision.

 

[Eszti]

X is absolutely wild today.

 

[Toons]

800 smackers? Anyone wanting to get rid of their vanilla ps5 for a fair price hit me up... I may be interested later cuz I ain't spending that lmfao

 

[Bojji]

Consoles tend to go up in price. If this system is $700 with no disc drive. No doubt PS6 will be $800. Maybe more.

How many times has a makers new console went down in price? Off top of my head, Dreamcast was a steal at $200 as Sega went balls deep on a good system at good value vs Saturn. Not sure how many other examples there are. Systems either are same price or cost more almost every time.

PS3 - 599/499 option

PS4 - 399

PS4 Pro - 399

PS5 - 499/399 option

PS5 Pro:

 

[twilo99]

Don't be so sure this will be the best way to play it at launch

My theory...

It would all depend on when that game launches.. if it's before the next box drops, PS5 pro would be the best machine to play it on, if it's after...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

PS3 - 599/499 option

PS4 - 399

PS4 Pro - 399

PS5 - 499/399 option

PS5 Pro:

I can see GameStop employees now…. “Would you like to add a disc drive too?”

 

[saintjules]

I can see GameStop employees now…. “Would you like to add a disc drive too?”

Better that than them asking if I want insurance on a disc based game..

 

[Bojji]

I can see GameStop employees now…. “Would you like to add a disc drive too?”

+ vertical stand
+ Dual Sense Edge
+ 1 year of PS+

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Better that than them asking if I want insurance on a disc based game..

But what if the employee asks if he wants insurance on the disc drive?

 

[Stu_Hart]

That presentation was hot garbo. The games they showed already run and look good on base ps5. I was dead on when I had my concerns that they will not make a good case for consumers and just mention what the developers want. Mark cerny cares more about the developers than the consumers. $700 without disc drive and a stand. Don't forget the taxes. No thanks...if you are willing to spend that much, might as well save up a bit more and just get a pc.

 

[BlackTron]

That honestly doesn't mean shit. People are not happy with the price. Because a console has never been priced that high. Wait until the thing goes on sale. See how it performs. Only then do we know what is really going on.

But consoles don't really go on sale this gen, other than rare opportunities. Pro getting a price cut in order to find its sweet spot in a world where everything else stayed the same or increased, just shows something was off with Pro's value proposition. Basically you're right we'll know what is going on if they do it...if it finds massive success at $650 with a disc drive, that would prove the axis between cost/stuff people want had been found...but really maybe too low for Sony to like the margins making the whole thing iffy.

But Sony doesn't really have anything to lose by testing the waters of how much people are willing to pay. And if they don't, just let them buy base PS5's instead or price cut the pro at their discretion. Even if they sell one per day they get to say they have the ludicrously more powerful, premium game console, like the gold watch in a store full of silver ones. Yeah, they all tell the time so you buy silver, and happen to pick the gold's brand...

 

[twilo99]

How can consoles be almost two decades behind on this whole physical copies/disk drive thing blows my mind.

Hopefually the PS6 ends it for good.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

But consoles don't really go on sale this gen, other than rare opportunities. Pro getting a price cut in order to find its sweet spot in a world where everything else stayed the same or increased, just shows something was off with Pro's value proposition. Basically you're right we'll know what is going on if they do it...if it finds massive success at $650 with a disc drive, that would prove the axis between cost/stuff people want had been found...but really maybe too low for Sony to like the margins making the whole thing iffy.

But Sony doesn't really have anything to lose by testing the waters of how much people are willing to pay. And if they don't, just let them buy base PS5's instead or price cut the pro at their discretion. Even if they sell one per day they get to say they have the ludicrously more powerful, premium game console, like the gold watch in a store full of silver ones. Yeah, they all tell the time so you buy silver, and happen to pick the gold's brand...

A shame about price cuts. Last gen too. The old days of consoles dumped at $99 or $149 for bargain hunters is long gone. I remember super slim PS2’s selling for $80 and 360 and PS3 for $100-150 cdn.

Those days were crazy too. You get Xmas bundles with 5 games included too.

 

[Bojji]

How can consoles be almost two decades behind on this whole physical copies/disk drive thing blows my mind.

Hopefually the PS6 ends it for good.

Enjoy 100$ games and being locked to one store (save this post for 2028).

 

[ManaByte]

+ vertical stand
+ Dual Sense Edge
+ 1 year of PS+

Just wait for the forced retailer bundles.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Just wait for the forced retailer bundles.

System + game + second game pad, or System + stand + disc drive will each be about $1,150 CDN. Add tax and your at $1,300.

Heck some retailer might go balls deep and force in a PSVR2 at $750 into a bundle making basically a $2,000 purchase after tax.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

But consoles don't really go on sale this gen, other than rare opportunities. Pro getting a price cut in order to find its sweet spot in a world where everything else stayed the same or increased, just shows something was off with Pro's value proposition. Basically you're right we'll know what is going on if they do it...if it finds massive success at $650 with a disc drive, that would prove the axis between cost/stuff people want had been found...but really maybe too low for Sony to like the margins making the whole thing iffy.

But Sony doesn't really have anything to lose by testing the waters of how much people are willing to pay. And if they don't, just let them buy base PS5's instead or price cut the pro at their discretion. Even if they sell one per day they get to say they have the ludicrously more powerful, premium game console, like the gold watch in a store full of silver ones. Yeah, they all tell the time so you buy silver, and happen to pick the gold's brand...

I am not saying the thing should get a price cit. I am saying wait until the thing is actually selling. Or available to buy. And after like 3 months we will see how the market is really receiving it.

 

[Danknugz]

i remember when the 3do launched at 700$ and everyone was blown away by the graphics at the time. makes you think how that relates to the ps5 pro performance today. of course back then PC discrete graphics didn't really exist outside of silicon graphics workstations which went for something like 30,000 dollars. so i guess the same difference today, given that 4090 can be had for about 1500, which is 5% of 30,000, the equivalent would be 5% of 700 which comes out to 35 dollars of my math is right

 

[BlackTron]

I am not saying the thing should get a price cit. I am saying wait until the thing is actually selling. Or available to buy. And after like 3 months we will see how the market is really receiving it.

Ok yeah I misread your post lol. When you said "on sale" it just came off as a price cut to me but that could be my frame of mind reading this thread as well.

 

[demigod]

BS by him, you don't waste R&D time and money and shitcan it because the competition isn't releasing theirs. Also what's with the 2 minute ads?

 

[salva]

$1360 Australian pesos with disc drive.

Motherfucka.

you could probably get a gaming laptop with a an older 3070 for that

 

[consoul]

Everyone's gonna freak out now and then when GTA6 is announced to support 60fps on Pro, this thing is gonna sell out.

You all know this to be true.

 

[RodriGames40]

Everyone's gonna freak out now and then when GTA6 is announced to support 60fps on Pro, this thing is gonna sell out.

You all know this to be true.

This outrage won't last, that's for sure. As soon as this gen enters the second half demand will increase like crazy, especially because of that one game.

 

[bbeach123]

Just cut it down to 1tb and -100$ easily .

 

[K' Dash]

That presentation was hot garbo. The games they showed already run and look good on base ps5. I was dead on when I had my concerns that they will not make a good case for consumers and just mention what the developers want. Mark cerny cares more about the developers than the consumers. $700 without disc drive and a stand. Don't forget the taxes. No thanks...if you are willing to spend that much, might as well save up a bit more and just get a pc.

Everyone and their mother knew this thing was not needed, but were curious about how Sony would justify a Pro console and they did it in the worst way possible.

PS4 games in your PlayStation 5 PRO presentation? What the fuck is marketing thinking?

Even if I have the money to buy one, why would I? There aren’t even enough games made from the ground up for PS5 that I care about.

They fucked up, I really hope this thing bombs and their upcoming games also bomb hard.

 

[T-0800]

Any official price for Australia yet?

 

[demonstr8]

Xbox have been out of the game for about 10 days and already arrogant Sony are back lol. They need a good ass whooping again and this will hopefully be the start of it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Any official price for Australia yet?

$1,200

 

[T-0800]

$1,200

Seriously? Well that kills my interest. I could maybe justify $1000 but that extra $200 just kills any interest I have for it. Maybe in a couple of years if it ever drops in price.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Seriously? Well that kills my interest. I could maybe justify $1000 but that extra $200 just kills any interest I have for it. Maybe in a couple of years if it ever drops in price.

Also remember, disc drive and stand are extra. If you’re a disc gamer the add on drive is $160 AUD. Not sure what the stand is. Maybe 40 or 50.

 

[T-0800]

Also remember, disc drive and stand are extra. If you’re a disc gamer the add on drive is $160 AUD. Not sure what the stand is. Maybe 40 or 50.

 

[Jaybe]

Also remember, disc drive and stand are extra. If you’re a disc gamer the add on drive is $160 AUD. Not sure what the stand is. Maybe 40 or 50.

 

[Kacho]

Also remember, disc drive and stand are extra. If you’re a disc gamer the add on drive is $160 AUD. Not sure what the stand is. Maybe 40 or 50.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Shit didn’t mean to shock an Aussie to death. Next time I bbq outside, I’ll put a shrimp on the Barbee.

 

[Allandor]

Wtf, 799€ vs $699 and even only digital... I guess they don't want to sell this in Europe.

 

[Dr.brain64]

Day one.

Finally! I will be able to buy this without it going oos after a few seconds!

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

An appropriately Australian response to the AUS pricing on X

 

[farmerboy]

you could probably get a gaming laptop with a an older 3070 for that

No idea, but I will still update. Maybe not straight away but eventually. Everything has gotten dearer, this is not a big surprise.

 

[Quantum253]

Day one.

Finally! I will be able to buy this without it going oos after a few seconds!

I bet it still does. Scalpers will be trying to push at 900 to 1k.

 

[LiquidRex]

Sony why are you charging $700 for a console without a disk drive and stand plus you need to squint so hard you look like you're curling one out to see a difference in graphical fidelity?
Sony...

 

[Alan Wake]

one x was literally 5x faster from ur xbox one, gpu wise, which is +400%, ps5pr0 is only +45% faster, this price is not justified to me considering how lil more we getting this time =/

Yes, and the original Xbox One never felt powerful to begin with so an upgrade (both in power and regarding the design of the thing) was so welcome. I never had that feeling with PS4 Pro and actually kept my standardPS4 that entire gen. It was perfectly fine. Guess that's the way it will be with PS5 this gen too.

 

[Edgelord79]

People not being happy on X, on YouTube or in forums doesn’t matter. Only sales do. Let's see how it sells before saying Sony screwed up.

 

[Myuni]

Wtf, 799€ vs $699 and even only digital... I guess they don't want to sell this in Europe.

It could be, that Sony indeed does not want to sell huge numbers, 'cause they did not produce a lot of them. That may be the reason for the high price.

They realized how pointless a Pro is in this generation, but put already too many resources into the development, so they opted for a high price 'iPhone Pro Max style' release, instead of canceling it altogether.

 

[ryzen1]

+ vertical stand
+ Dual Sense Edge
+ 1 year of PS+

Wait. There's not even a single controller included?

 

[LiquidRex]

People not being happy on X, on YouTube or in forums doesn’t matter. Only sales do. Let's see how it sells before saying Sony screwed up.

Well scalpers will help, and after that presentation I'm sure Sony are counting on them.

 

[diffusionx]

i remember when the 3do launched at 700$ and everyone was blown away by the graphics at the time. makes you think how that relates to the ps5 pro performance today. of course back then PC discrete graphics didn't really exist outside of silicon graphics workstations which went for something like 30,000 dollars. so i guess the same difference today, given that 4090 can be had for about 1500, which is 5% of 30,000, the equivalent would be 5% of 700 which comes out to 35 dollars of my math is right

Nobody was blown away by 3DO lmao, system was trash.

 

[DinoD]

Seriously? Well that kills my interest. I could maybe justify $1000 but that extra $200 just kills any interest I have for it. Maybe in a couple of years if it ever drops in price.

Yeah. I was saying in an earlier post. Many Aussies would find it hard to break through the mental barrier of 1k AUD.

Me on the other hand.