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Rapist awarded joint custody of victims child in MI (Up: ruling stayed)
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fabricated backlash
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This is straight up medieval. Then again, the US still has the death penalty, so I don't know what I expected.if you're wondering how they get away with this shit
the even more fucked up thing is they did this just because she applied for food stamps.
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Are you implying the enforcement of sharia law hasnt had a history of being horribly brutal and inhumane?
OT anyway but these drive by posts irk me...
Vital Tundra
Member
Not only a rapist but a pedophile? How???
Always-honest
Banned
Ehhh.. yeah. With good reason. But why this comment though?
Anyway....
This should not even be an option or a possiblity.
Dude is a rapist pedo. He should get life in prison.
TheExecutive
Member
Well I can see the state pursuing child support for the victim but to offer shared custody? Thats some crazy shit.
Looking at his past and making this dicision anyway... the judge should be disbarred.
TheExecutive
Member
This is one of the most offensive things I have ever read coming out of the justice system.
sir_kevith
Member
If you're not American you might not know that there are actually people protesting "Sharia law" in small towns around the US. They claim liberals want to let Muslims in and takeover the local laws.
He's making the observation that the results of this case sound like something you'd hear come from sharia law.
I am American and am aware of those protests..thats not how I interpreted the post but if thats what they really were trying to express they should have been much more clear.
parrotbeak
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Sorry if my comment was vague. I meant people are paranoid about sharia law taking over America when America's legal system has its own problems. This is not a whole lot different than making a rapist marry the victim or other practices we condemn in other cultures.
This situation is alarming. This man is a pedophile. He should be eligible for supervised visitation only, if that. The issue of legal custody is more complicated. And, while this situation is despicable because of the particulars, the entire child custody and child support system in the United States is broken and needs reform. edit: at a minimum, there should be federal standards to make these issues uniform between the states.
This is what it comes down to. God forbid the state help take care of children! Bootstraps and all that.
This is what it comes down to. God forbid the state help take care of children! Bootstraps and all that.
Primethius
Banned
I saw an update on this, not sure if posted:
http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...to_father_accused_of_raping_th#When:15:19:00Z
Seems the judge was unaware of the father's sex offender status and has stayed his ruling.
http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...to_father_accused_of_raping_th#When:15:19:00Z
Seems the judge was unaware of the father's sex offender status and has stayed his ruling.
Frozenprince
Banned
Remember if you're poor (thanks to being a single mother due to rape when you were literally a child) you have no rights if you wanna eat and feed your baby!
Fuck everything about this.
Fuck everything about this.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
That judge is fucking incompetent.
So does this mean he no longer has custody of the child? Please tell me it's so.
excelsiorlef
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
I believe so, a stay is when they withhold on whatever they're doing(For example, a Stay of Execution)
Polioliolio
Member
The fuck? My dad had to fight harder than hell to get equal custody for us kids after the divorce, and he's the most selfless, hard working, and caring person I know who has provided almost completely for us, and still lost his house and had to pay child support.
And this fucking rapist is handed custody?
Unbelievable.
I suppose there could be more to the story. Perhaps I should read the whole link. For all I know the father may have labeled a rapist because of some sudden claims by the mother in order to slander the father and help win the case.
Edit: nah, he appears to be a scoundrel rapist.
And this fucking rapist is handed custody?
Unbelievable.
I suppose there could be more to the story. Perhaps I should read the whole link. For all I know the father may have labeled a rapist because of some sudden claims by the mother in order to slander the father and help win the case.
Edit: nah, he appears to be a scoundrel rapist.
ArkhamFantasy
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If the judge forgot something like that he needs to step down.
andythinkpad
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The entire story reads like something from Pakistan or Afghanistan.
Widdle Puppy
Banned
Fuck Michigan. They went red in 2016 and did this. Awful state.
Surely it must have been brought up once during the case before now. Either he is completely incompetent or he had no problem with it until the story blew up.
hurricanes
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She asked for state support. And she was raped when she was 12. Your first freaking assumption is that she lied?! Go f*ck yourself.
DrROBschiz
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ClosingADoor
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So I take it he didn't read the case at all and just put a signature down or something? How did he not know this.
oneils
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Although it almost sounds like the judge believed the prosecutor when he says the victim gave consent. It may not necessarily be the judges fault if he was misled.
Edit: judge stayed order saying he didnt know the history. Pretty lax oversight here.
llien
Banned
My English might be failing me, but it sounds like it was an accused who allegedly raped, not convicted one.
PS
Never mind, read the article, WTF...
PPS
I"m even more confused, "attempted"??? How is he the father then?
and even this part:
It is also not clear from the text, of custody was already awarded, or "could award".
PPPS
Looks more like prosecution fuck up.
http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...to_father_accused_of_raping_th#When:15:19:00Z
Polioliolio
Member
Um no. My first assumption was what I wrote first. Then in giving my recounting of my parents own custody battle, I realized how ruthless and despicable these battles can be. They tried all kinds of horrible things to make my dad look like a bad guy, and I thought, maybe we shouldn't all line up to condemn somebody based on a headline. In custody battles, especially in the 80s-90s, the dad is always assumed to be unfit from the get go, you should know.
So maybe you wanna chill out.
roflwaffles
Member
if you're wondering how they get away with this shit
the even more fucked up thing is they did this just because she applied for food stamps.
States in grey are civilization.
Squirrel Killer
Member
From what I gathered on my quick reading of this a few days ago, this case came up because the state was trying to establish paternity so they could grant the victim's welfare claim. The intent of that requirement is probably so that the state can go after deadbeat dads. Both the rapist's and the victim's attorneys sound surprised by these proceedings, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the state fucking up by treating this as a run of the mill court order to establish paternity. It sounds like the rapist's history wasn't even included in the information provided to the judge, and since the victim nor her attorney weren't included in the proceedings, they never had the opportunity to bring it up before the order was issued.
Rumblebones
Banned
Judge needs to be let go.
Assuming he's even telling the truth that he didn't know.
TimeEffect
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What country and year are we in, wow
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Unfortunately this isn't the first time nor will it be the last time.
WTF? That's like two minutes if even that to check, you don't even have to search specifically the Michigan sex offender registry since it's also on the MDOC site as well.
It's "alleged" because of the plea he agreed to and should have never received.
Blame the jackass bureaucrat who initiated the case.
It's the responsibility of the attorneys presenting the matter to provide the court with the facts. If they didn't do that, that's on them.
The staff in the judge's office are incredibly stupid and incompetent.
I work in the legal department of a state government agency. There is no way this was missed unless, again, the people working there are stupid and incompetent.
oneils
Member
But you dont work for a court. Is it standard procedure for judges to go looking for facts or evidence that was never offered? Serious question. I dont know how family court works.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Of course it is and if the attorney was that inept they need a serious review.
It's not going through... Also America isn't the only country this happens or worse.
No, it's not. Judges are meant to adjudicate based on the evidence of the record.
They can and do research additional legal precedent, if they feel it's needed, but that's law, not fact.
Not only is it not standard, it would be completely inappropriate for a Judge to independently search for evidence on a case.
Funyarinpa
Member
Then the party arguing for the mother's custody should step down. How the fuck could they not present that?!
It's hard to tell for sure, but this excerpt from the original article:
Gives the impression the mother did not have an attorney present at the initial hearing and the Judge was misled by the prosecutor, into believing the mother had agreed to share custody. So, if I had to take a guess who is responsible for this, I'd guess the prosecutor identified above. He initiated the proceedings that led to this order without investigating any details and apparently misrepresented the mother's position. (At least, that's what it sounds like).
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