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Reddit CEO Pao steps down
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You might be confusing Encyclopædia Britannica, the oldest English language Encyclopedia; with Encyclopedia Dramatica, the repository for 4chan memes and occurances which based it's name off of the former.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
We did it, fam.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Because no one said Paoligula, Paossolini or Vladimir Paotin.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Sure sounds like a real asshole. But if she was a he and the color changed from yellow to white, I'd guarantee we'd see less shitposting and hostility and more constructive dialogue if not outright apathy. Hard to have a nuanced about a person when said person is so completely alien to the majority (or really vocal mintority) of reddit's viewership. Also she wasn't hated by the community because of those things, she was hated for getting rid of a shitty sub and being misattributed to the firing of an admin.
Crazy. Guess it was the only clean way out.
And these are all way funnier.
And these are all way funnier.
I sure hope so. Using a 4chan encyclopedia for my homework... The thought of it sickens me!
CornBurrito
Member
OrlanisWorks
Banned
She wasn't the sole proprietor of the problems in running reddit, but it's something. Gotta bust some moderator/admin asses now.
I think they are objectively not as funny, hence they didn't become the ubiquitous tar and feathering of her. Also they clearly not as obvious satires on her name and the percieve dictorial role she played against the community. Oh, I bet you want to tell me that it's racist because it implies a shared Chinese heritage, but it clearly doesn't and makes no claim on what having a chinese heritage means.
I truly do not see the sequitur between the Chairman Pao meme to it being explicitly racist. I can see a lot of tangential things that were said though as being racist, and may have occured alongside with promotion of the meme.
edit: Maybe I missed some other part of the whole reddit uproar, but I wouldn't conflate the core meme with being what is racist.
CornBurrito
Member
Mao is three letters, so if Pao. The pun is cleaner and funnier that way. Caligula isn't really someone who gets thrown around a lot when dictators are mentioned on reddit. Neither is Mussolini. Really Mao and Hitler are the big ones, which are incidentally the same two Pao get compared to. Meanwhile the Mao -> Pao requires only a one letter shift. The others are more strained, because they don't rhyme and require more letter shifts.
RE: Mao = Pao. The previous CEO was also asian and I'm not aware of any major comparisons of him to Mao (this doesn't mean that there weren't any).
You know, despite the unfounded shit that gets thrown her way, she's not exactly a good person, as the court found out.
You know, despite the unfounded shit that gets thrown her way, she's not exactly a good person, as the court found out.
Delta Assault
Member
The wordplay works a lot better with Mao.
At the end of the day, I don't see it as denoting some sort of hatred for an entire race of people. I see it as hatred for two people in particular, Chairman Mao and Ellen Pao.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Yeah, but I read a number of people using "Emperor Paopatine."
People are always going to find no angel stuff on you if they look. In these situations where a lot of other hateful stuff is tied into the accusation, it's important to look at the motivations of the accuser as well.
She may not be the best person but people are using a lot of stuff to justify some even more repugnant stuff.
Ok that's pretty good.
And_Gignac
Member
She had short coming and terrible decision making skills, so her outing may be good. But I can shake this feeling off that her mistakes were exaggerated and her character vilified by a portion of reddit because she is an Asian woman.
TheSpecialOne
Banned
Pao, right in the kisser.
bobawesome
Member
We did it, Reddit!
King Cobra
Banned
You don't mess with the front page of the internet.
RockTurtle
Member
Even to the end she blames someone else for her antics.
Although...if she IS telling the truth and the reddit handlers wanted an even more stringent monetization method than what Pao was offering....
Shit will be a sight to hold. We might have jumped from the pan and into the fire.
Although...if she IS telling the truth and the reddit handlers wanted an even more stringent monetization method than what Pao was offering....
Shit will be a sight to hold. We might have jumped from the pan and into the fire.
The CEO she replaced was also asian and he got way less shit... well maybe not less shit, but for not racist reasons. Mostly because he posted stuff like "Every Man Is Responsible For His Own Soul" after the fappening
and hired a man to rework bitcoin in javascript for reddit for... reasons.
Though her being a woman will have enraged the lower dregs of users.
Riposte
Member
This whole saga has been mildly amusing. Are the mods still holding major subreddits hostage?
fixed
fixed
VaultBoy101
Member
It's not very productive to phrase things this way when people are vocal about opinions you disagree with or just don't care about. People being vocal on the internet is why we don't have ridiculously strict console DRM and online requirements this generation. I've seen some who were in favor of the original XB1 plans phrase the NoDRM movement as "whiners/babies/entitled gamers getting their way" as well. That's just one example, but there are plenty of others. This trend of trying to paint vocal movements on the internet with a brush of illegitimacy needs to stop.
They don't really help themselves when stuff like this happens:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutr...cdex9/a_quick_peek_at_the_ellen_pao_petition/
elrechazado
Banned
That's ra-sith-t
She'll be assistant CEO.
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
So glad that the horribly racist and misogynistic portion of reddit's userbase can now claim victory.
Truly the darkest timeline.
Truly the darkest timeline.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Wait am I reading that right? She ditched them because she wasn't compliant enough to agree with all of the boards awful decisions?
This means that who ever replaces her can only be worse right?
This means that who ever replaces her can only be worse right?
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
I love how the mainstream media is picking up the "misogynist drives out Reddit CEO" story line and running with it.
First and foremost, she's an incompetent goober.
First and foremost, she's an incompetent goober.
There might be hope for reddit, but the people who put her in charge are probably still there.
The amount of damage Pao has done in such a short time is staggering. That is not repaired by just her not being there.
It is amazing how utterly disconnected from your own userbase you can possibly be.
The amount of damage Pao has done in such a short time is staggering. That is not repaired by just her not being there.
It is amazing how utterly disconnected from your own userbase you can possibly be.
airmangataosenai
Member
Am I missing something? The Victoly jokes on the first page seem really inappropriate, there's no reason to play off her ethnicity in that manner.
IdreamofHIME
Member
She's clearly unlikeable as a person, but I feel reddit fans are in for a rough ride with the way the site goes without her as a business woman.
You all got what you wanted, hope there's no tears in a few years.
You all got what you wanted, hope there's no tears in a few years.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
O the new CEO is going to be worse. It's all but guaranteed.
NYR
Member
I disagree with your disagreement.
You just made a list of reasons why Chairman Pao is easy and cheap and why Paossolini is hilarious. Just trying saying Paossolini out loud! It's goofy and fun. Also the concept of comparing this lady to someone who murdered people by the million is ridiculous already, so you oughta own it by making a big stretch out of it. "Chairman Pao" is too clean a match phonetically and ethnically. You gotta have the humility to show that you know the comparison to an actual dictator is bathetic. "Emperor Paopatine" is perfect.
Maybe I'm missing something, but from the articles I've read about this whole debacle it seems like Ellen Pao getting blamed for this mess and then her resignation seem like a perfect epitome of misogynistic sexism that Reddit is stereotyped for?
Why are people so happy to see her gone?
Why are people so happy that Alexis Ohanian is still there despite this all ultimately starting with him?
If I have some facts wrong here, I'd be happy to hear it.
- It doesn't seem like it was her decision to fire Victoria in the first place
- Despite Alexis Ohanian actually being the one to fire Victoria, Pao got the blame
- Also, who got the misogynistic insults against her? Pao. Alexis? I haven't seen much hate for him at all
Why are people so happy to see her gone?
Why are people so happy that Alexis Ohanian is still there despite this all ultimately starting with him?
If I have some facts wrong here, I'd be happy to hear it.
Soyongdori
Member
jesus christ, so man puns with that name...
Well shit
HoodWinked
Member
you know its funny cause lets say for example her lawsuit against that firm went in her favor. she would be labeled as a civil rights hero and beacon for females in the workplace and whatever she did or does for reddit probably wouldnt even mattered because people would be either indifferent or positive towards her. but because she lost shes is sort of labeled as a loser.
its sort of hilarious how people dont want to be associated with a 'loser' even if its a ceo of a site that they frequent and really does sort of perfectly represented in their site the whole upvote system is a numerical representation of user's validation.
its sort of hilarious how people dont want to be associated with a 'loser' even if its a ceo of a site that they frequent and really does sort of perfectly represented in their site the whole upvote system is a numerical representation of user's validation.
Is there actually strong conclusive evidence to support these allegations?
In a thread full of hatred over this women because some other man fired someone, I find it a little hard to just automatically accept un-sourced statements like this.
I have to believe there's a little (or a lot of) nuance between reality and this portrayal which could be easily confused with an unimaginative caricature of a one-sided evil mastermind.
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