Duckhuntdog
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sp0rsk said:
You sir, are correct.
Reggie is back and talks about Revolution
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You sir, are correct.
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I feel sorry for people who dont want something different.
it's better than having to buy 3 identical consoles next gen. If you dont like what it is, then dont buy it.
it's better than having to buy 3 identical consoles next gen. If you dont like what it is, then dont buy it.
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jedimike said:
16.5 mllion Xbox users, of which 1.5 million are online, that's about 1%. Hardly mainstream.
Isn't it going to be hard to get the 3rd party support that they think is important if they are using some insane control scheme?
"Yeah, we'd love to port our piece of shit Tom Clancy game on your system, but we don't really know how to get it to play like the other versions using a stylus and a Power Glove!"
"Yeah, we'd love to port our piece of shit Tom Clancy game on your system, but we don't really know how to get it to play like the other versions using a stylus and a Power Glove!"
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Actually 1% would be 165,000. 1.5 million is about 10%.
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ge-man said:
I don't think so. But more and more everyday. It would be beyond foolhardy to ignore this aspect of gaming and content delivery next gen, and Nintendo won't. I'm curious about what all the control factors mean come E3, but I guarantee by next gen downplaying online gaming in the home console market won't even be an issue.
Society said:
I know, I saw. I see it as colorful, nigh dramatic wording of "Wireless controllers out of the box, ain't we clever?"
jedimike said:
They're two completely different markets. While Microsoft's ability to get more than a million people to continually subscribe to an online gaming service is comendable, the concept of online gaming is still in its infancy. Just because you and your other gamer friends use it, does not make it mainstream. When plugging the consoles into a broadband connection is as "part of the process" as plugging it into the TV, that's when it becomes mainstream; when every game that supports more than one player goes online for multiplayer, that's when it's mainstream; when publishers and console makers decide, once and for all, who gets to control what, that's when it goes mainstream.
Why can't some of you understand by not plugging in a controller means wireless connections? Its not that hard to figure out..nintendo was the first to bring out a great wireless controller for a console and to this day is still the best out there. Nintendo wants to move in that direction.
Its that, or its next console is a portable and has the option to hook up to a tv or monitor out of the box, with built in wireless play for multiplayer online and off
Its that, or its next console is a portable and has the option to hook up to a tv or monitor out of the box, with built in wireless play for multiplayer online and off
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Duckhuntdog said:
But, far more millions of music listeners and a music artist goes platinum, say, oh, Linkin Park--most people would call Linkin Park mainstream (I'd call them a shitty band, but I digress)? I know your name is duckhuntdog, but you don't need to defend the hive that fiercely. This thread isn't about XBL, it's about the Revolution and its bundled Wavebirds.
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I think you need to check your math.Duckhuntdog said:
As much as Ninbots like to harp on how Nintendo makes all of this profit I find it hard to believe that Nintendo, when they get off their arse, aren't going to have you paying in some way for online connectivity.
As for the controller thing, if whatever launch game Miyamoto is working on requires the controller to have a straw attached to it so that the player can blow air into it than the controller will have it. That's been the problem with every controller post-SNES, too much Miyamoto "innovation" crap that makes the controller pretty much worthless for anything else but games in the style that Miyamoto was making at the time.
I think people here who are taking this as nothing more than a confirmation of wireless controllers could be in for a nasty surprise. I mean, I hope you people are right, but looking at these Reggie quotes and bearing in mind all the Revolution talk from Nintendo, I fear I could be gyrating and clapping my way through holograms if I want to play Mario 128.
teiresias said:
I don't know. It seemed like Nintendo's resistance to online had to do partially with pay services. I'm sure they want people play together in that respect, but they don't have faith in customers paying for it over the long haul. I think that's the problem they are looking at.
How can the market decide if they don't have a choice? Nintendo doesn't force you to buy anything. If Revolution doesn't work out then I guess the market decided, didn't they?thorns said:
Jesus, you can't sit around and wait for the public to tell you what to invent because they'll almost always say "make it like [something that already exists] and [some other thing that already exists]". It's Nintendo's (and Sony's, and Microsoft's) job to invent the next big thing. Maybe that's just more polygons and an online service. Maybe it's wireless controllers with kites attached. Whatever. E3 will be fun this year.
Online will only be the future for gaming if they can start getting it right. Theres just too much cheating and bullshit in todays games..almost enough to make you not want to play. Also as games age..even by a few months you see drastic decreases in player participation with about 90% of the games out there.
HokieJoe said:
I'll believe it when I see it. Right now I'm convinced that the majority of people just want a nice single player experince. Online is icing on the cake, not a determing factor for a game's success. Subscriber numbers don't say a thing IMO--at least not now.
callous--I think the controller is going to look a lot like the DS. It will have standard control features, but it will also have a few extras like a touchscreen or sensors that can be used or ignored by developers. I don't think Nintendo is that far gone as to release a system where porting would be impossible.
Nintendo invented the D-PAD. They invented shoulder buttons. They invented analouge stick.
It is fair to say they have invented something new which improves on these types of controls. The nes & snes was 2 generations of d-pad. The n64 and gamecube was 2 generations of analouge control. It is time for something different and improved, I hope Nintendo deliver.
It is fair to say they have invented something new which improves on these types of controls. The nes & snes was 2 generations of d-pad. The n64 and gamecube was 2 generations of analouge control. It is time for something different and improved, I hope Nintendo deliver.
bigNman said:
You do have a valid point. But of late Nintendo has been coming up with a whole bunch of gimmicky stuff like GBA/GC connectivity and the touchscreen/dualscreen stuff which has been so far implemented really badly by developers. I think this has resulted in the trust we used to have for Nintendo dropping and with the PSP it can be seen that they have "lost touch" with what gamers want in a way. I think everyone hopes they deliver, but after GC/GBA cables and a touchscreen, rumors that the Revolution has no buttons or d-pad and now that you don't even plug in a controller can only worry us.
Online is here especailly as more homes get broadband. It matters alot for the hardcore audience right now. Nintendo have little grip on hardcore gamers and things like this only make it worse. I play online on my pc. The consoles are very shit right now for online i admit and choice is small. The only game i want to play online is Halo 2 and i have to pay for that.
Like Cd's and DVD's. Oh wait they still havent. :lol
Lyte Edge said:It's simple, really. Until Nintendo does it, it's "hardcore." As soon as Nintendo implements a new feature the competition has already been using, it's "mainstream."
Like Cd's and DVD's. Oh wait they still havent. :lol
Revolution= Evoluted Eye Toy. You contol the game using your hands free of any accesories (or maybe something easy to put to capture the position of your fingers).
Not pad at all and you can plug it in any monitor.
I refuse to believe Nintendo is doing so much noise if it´s just wabevird controls by defect, that would be stupid. So it´s not something shocking like above I can´t see what it is.
Not pad at all and you can plug it in any monitor.
I refuse to believe Nintendo is doing so much noise if it´s just wabevird controls by defect, that would be stupid. So it´s not something shocking like above I can´t see what it is.
Lyte Edge said:It's simple, really. Until Nintendo does it, it's "hardcore." As soon as Nintendo implements a new feature the competition has already been using, it's "mainstream."
No, that's not how I figure. Subscriber base says little about gaming habits, which is think is what determines something is mainstream. If that huge subscriber base is only playing a couple of games online, I don't think it's right to call online a mainstream or critcally important feature.
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