Reggie is back and talks about Revolution
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AssMan said:
Exactly. Even I expected only moderate success for the system, but it looks like it might be replacing the GB for now. The people putting up this resistance whenever Nintendo even thinks about doing something new are just being rash. Nintendo's has had their mistakes, but they have also hit the jackpot as well. They don't to have completely emulate Sony and MS to do well.
I don't get people bemoaning difference. You don't know what that means yet so simmer down and wait and see. I for one am excited by the prospect of them even trying, since thusfar Xbox2 and PS3 sound like turbo-charged versions of their predecessors and little more. I'll be buying all 3 consoles, so I'd like some difference between them and amn't concerned about such difference setting one system apart from the others.
You never know, Nintendo might just execute on this in an appealing fashion, and carve a different market for themselves. Nintendo has pushed some relative duds a little too hard (connectivity), but it's also introduced many things which are now standard.
Finally, Reggie's comments about online and "community" are really interesting. Every time I hear Nintendo people talk like this, I can't help but think back on the rumours of a wide-scale DS peer-to-peer network, with each DS being capable of acting as a repeater in the network. That's a type of network that wouldn't rely on the internet, and they could incorporate such technology into Revolution - indeed, a home system would be much more capable in terms of that type of technology.
You never know, Nintendo might just execute on this in an appealing fashion, and carve a different market for themselves. Nintendo has pushed some relative duds a little too hard (connectivity), but it's also introduced many things which are now standard.
Finally, Reggie's comments about online and "community" are really interesting. Every time I hear Nintendo people talk like this, I can't help but think back on the rumours of a wide-scale DS peer-to-peer network, with each DS being capable of acting as a repeater in the network. That's a type of network that wouldn't rely on the internet, and they could incorporate such technology into Revolution - indeed, a home system would be much more capable in terms of that type of technology.
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Elios83 said:
Screw all this other nonsense, can someone else confirm this?!?
teiresias said:
well genius it was that "innovation crap" that brought you the nes and snes controllers, which are basically the foundation for every modern controller outhere and to a lesser extent with the n64 pad which brought analog to forefront...you wont change gaming with every try, but you just cant cant stop trying new things because this one time you didnt change gaming.
it would be cool if revolution came packaged with 2 controller(1 a more standard design and 1 with the crazy innovations)
GBA/GC connection is stupid, i don't think touchscreen is stupid, just that it hasn't been used to its full potential yet. If it ever will be (or can be) is the question, so maybe in 1-2 years we can say if it was stupid.duckroll said:
I expect to be awed by the Revolution like i was awed when i first controlled and saw Mario in SM64, no less. Not sure what Revolution is gonna bring to gaming, but i hope it brings new possibilites. I can get a PS3 for my regular gaming needs.
Do The Mario
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I am hoping for some kind of power boot based on the kuribo shoe!
kids like kicking shit out of each other!
kids like kicking shit out of each other!
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FnordChan, your "revolutionary" photoshops are so swass. They make me happy.
I just want Mario128 to come out. Keep building my faith on that front, Nintendo.
I just want Mario128 to come out. Keep building my faith on that front, Nintendo.
border said:
35 mill for the N64 is a disappointment? Yeah, the Cube is Nintendo's Betamax, but we shall see if Nintendo has what it takes next gen. With the GB and DS and with Sony's lack of battery life and dead pixels and/or dumbing down the screen the PSP has a rough road ahead of it. The DS library of games >>>PSP's. Add in the GBA library and it is no contest. But, maybe tech dweebs will save the day for the PSP. They didn't save the Xbox vs. the PS2, though.
soundwave05
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-SRV- said:
I dunno, I think the PSP's library in Japan is actually a bit better than the DS' right now, and the PSP sales are starting to rise (see the Enterbrain sales thread). The battery life issue is only going to get better as time goes on as Sony and third parties release higher capacity batteries.
Anyways, as for Revolution, I think Nintendo has no choice but to do something really, really different with it. With PS3 and Xenon, having a Nintendo console in the mix offering really nothing different but just the Nintendo name and franchises only sells to a small audience, and that might even sell less than the GameCube as more and more people flock to the Sony/Microsoft camps.
I think Nintendo figures they may have a better shot making something very, very different. The GameCube really wasn't all that different from the PS2/XBox except it had a
clickable analog triggers and no DVD playback. If its so different and so out there, some people might buy it even in addition to the PS3/Xenon.
If they can make an action platfomer Donkey Kong game work by using konga drums, I'd say they probably could make something else work too. Maybe some type of sensory "glove" (not the Power Glove, heh) that provides tactile feedback/pressure/sensation to your fingers? (wireless).
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G4life98 said:
The NES controller is a cheap plastic knockoff of the Vectrex controller. Now THAT was a revolution, with the screen and console in one package AND built in asteroids-clone.
Duckhuntdog
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DJ Demon J said:But, far more millions of music listeners and a music artist goes platinum, say, oh, Linkin Park--most people would call Linkin Park mainstream (I'd call them a shitty band, but I digress)? I know your name is duckhuntdog, but you don't need to defend the hive that fiercely. This thread isn't about XBL, it's about the Revolution and its bundled Wavebirds.*crosses fingers*
I am not trying to defend the Hive here. I didn't bring XBL into this, JediMike, who always seems to work the Xbox into things did, by saying console online gaming has gone mainstream.
As far as Rev bundled with wireless controllers, you will get your wish.
Do The Mario
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Scottlarock said:
Have some respect, because its about as funny as Nintendo 9/11 you jackass!
soundwave05 said:
I see the PSP's library as total drek. RidgeRacer? Racing games are for people without a driver's license. Metal Gear Ac!d? Puhleeze. Anyway, the market may dictate otherwise.
Typical Sony, crappy hardware that needs revisions to make it useful or reliable. All at the consumer's extra cost. This gen, only MS got the hardware right. Nintendo dropped the ball as well with the super small memory cards and the original GBA's dark screen.
Losing half your market share to a newcomer is always a bit disappointing....as is making a console whose software market is mostly dead after less than 4 years.-SRV- said:
I am not saying that bad things are going to happen for the DS.....just that a successful launch doesn't necessarily mean that a product is going to climb into the stratosphere. Nintendo has a big enough fanbase and parent-trust, they could sell a few million of almost anything in the Christmas season. The problem will be making it through the dry season with a very hungry competitor sporting superior technology at a low price.
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xbox live is mainstream as much as wireless....10% of xbox users is probably more the then 10% of ps2 owners playing SADuckhuntdog said:
soundwave05
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Actually N64 sold considerably more than 1/2 of the SNES, the SNES only finished with 49 million sold, not 70 million.
soundwave05
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-SRV- said:
:lol at the racing game comment. A good game is a good game.
Hot Shots Golf + Ridge Racer + Metal Gear Acid + Dynasty Warriors + Lumines
is better than
Super Mario 64 DS (remake) + Wario Ware DS (upgraded GBA game), + Feel The Magic (cool title) + Pikachu (so-so spinoff).
I've had no problems with my PS2 this generation. The GameCube also dropped the ball on Dolby Digital audio output (nada) and the worst d-pad which makes the system the worst of the three for fighting games.
DemonCleaner
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mumu said:
your right
revolution = the vurt
Duckhuntdog
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SantaCruZer said:
Why wait? Peace through pre-emptive flaming!!!
-SRV- said:
What are you talking about? Dumbing down the PSP's screen? Where did you read this? Surely, you're not talking about the Samsung agreement, are you? You do realize Sony is taking a bigger loss with that, with no downgrade in visual performance, right? Gripes about battery life are long disproved, so find another angle to bash the system. Don't get me started on the dated graphics home to Nintendo's pocket sub-N64 system. Ridge Racers alone surpasses by miles the entire DS library. The PSP doesn't require saving. Look at the latest sales numbers, thank you very much.
Do The Mario
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Bogdan said:
OMG, I hope you get fuckin banned sometime soon!
Hundreds of thousands of people dying never gets funny, how old are you 14?
Some of are unwilling to use your imagination. Video games are not defined by the interface, so I see nothing wrong with making the current controller idea obsolete. I wonder if Pong fanatics were as stubborn about sticking to turny knobs as you guys are about your control sticks.
ge-man said:
Spin it however you want. PSP hasn't even hit U.S. shores and Nintendo is already revealing beads of sweat on its brow. When the PSP hypetrain gets in full gear over here, Nintendo can call it a day. Reggie will retreat to wherever he digs up his crazy quotes of fancy, while Sony proves -- once again -- why Mario is headed for the unemployment line.
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Here is the first pic of the revolutionary new controller for the next nintendo system
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Do The Mario
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I love it how every Nintendo thread these days becomes and Nintendo is doomed thread!XS+ said:
I'm sorry, I make no predictions regarding hardware sales as I'm horrid at that stuff, but it's a well known fact that the supply issues with the PSP where well known, yet Ninbots would dismiss such talk and squeal with glee that the PSP was "bombing" and getting "trampled." I just find it amusing that now they have to pull out the same argument and expect people to take them seriously.
Revolution needs a standerd controller!
-for "traditional" gaming
-for direct ports
-for backwords compatibility
Maybe they could add something more to these standerd controllers like tilt control, a mini screen/touch screen, wireless standerd of course w/ rumble, toggle wheels, etc. which would give even ports the Revolution "touch" and/or make games that were MADE for Revolution specifically harder to port? But then there's the whole talk of no A + B buttons or D-Pad...I don't know what that means but I can say that it DOESN'T mean they'll be replaced by a touch screen 'cos you can only touch the screen at ONE point which would make multiple button presses impossible, plus what's the use of having a built in screen if it's constantly being covered by your thumb AND traditional gamers/gaming *needs* the feel of a button and the resistance that comes with it so they know they're even pressing it.
So my thoughts now are that Nintendo will have a "standerd" controller for those games/gamers/game makers that want to do traditional games/gaming. This control (as I stated above) could have extras that would still make it an advancement in interface, but isn't too alienating. In addition to a traditional standerd Revolution controller there will also be other types of interfaces like let's say bongo's, dance pad's, etc.? Plus there's the whole business with the gyro technology...I don't think it would be wise to put that into a standerd controller 'cos then I could see one player hitting the player sitting next to them trying to move the controller...plus all that vigorous movement couldn't be good for a standerd controller especially if it has a built in screen and such...I can just imagine the first child whipping around and throwing a $40-$50 gyro controller against the wall or at the TV screen.
So...I believe there will be a new type of gyro specific "controller" in addition to the standerd controller. The gyro controller wouldn't need a D-Pad or A & B buttons as they use motion to control. The gyro controller would be like a handle or like a wand (I'll call it "GameWand") and will be ergonomically designed to be wireless w/stronger force feedback then a traditional controller and made to be rough and tumble in case it is dropped durring vigorous gameplay. It will be designed to recognize more sensitive movement then merely a tilt sensor and would be used in games where you fish, sword fight, boxing, golf, tennis, baseball...hell, they could even put a light sensor & trigger on each GameWand and double it as a light gun. Imagine playing the next Punch Out! with a GameWand in each hand...you would *really* feel immersed in that kind of game as you would be holding and moving your fists as if you were really fighting and when you made an impact to your opponent it would rumble. The idea behind having gyro control and a new "controller" interface in the GameWand is to get non-gamers to start playing games which is what Nintendo has been talking about for a while now.
-for "traditional" gaming
-for direct ports
-for backwords compatibility
Maybe they could add something more to these standerd controllers like tilt control, a mini screen/touch screen, wireless standerd of course w/ rumble, toggle wheels, etc. which would give even ports the Revolution "touch" and/or make games that were MADE for Revolution specifically harder to port? But then there's the whole talk of no A + B buttons or D-Pad...I don't know what that means but I can say that it DOESN'T mean they'll be replaced by a touch screen 'cos you can only touch the screen at ONE point which would make multiple button presses impossible, plus what's the use of having a built in screen if it's constantly being covered by your thumb AND traditional gamers/gaming *needs* the feel of a button and the resistance that comes with it so they know they're even pressing it.
So my thoughts now are that Nintendo will have a "standerd" controller for those games/gamers/game makers that want to do traditional games/gaming. This control (as I stated above) could have extras that would still make it an advancement in interface, but isn't too alienating. In addition to a traditional standerd Revolution controller there will also be other types of interfaces like let's say bongo's, dance pad's, etc.? Plus there's the whole business with the gyro technology...I don't think it would be wise to put that into a standerd controller 'cos then I could see one player hitting the player sitting next to them trying to move the controller...plus all that vigorous movement couldn't be good for a standerd controller especially if it has a built in screen and such...I can just imagine the first child whipping around and throwing a $40-$50 gyro controller against the wall or at the TV screen.
So...I believe there will be a new type of gyro specific "controller" in addition to the standerd controller. The gyro controller wouldn't need a D-Pad or A & B buttons as they use motion to control. The gyro controller would be like a handle or like a wand (I'll call it "GameWand") and will be ergonomically designed to be wireless w/stronger force feedback then a traditional controller and made to be rough and tumble in case it is dropped durring vigorous gameplay. It will be designed to recognize more sensitive movement then merely a tilt sensor and would be used in games where you fish, sword fight, boxing, golf, tennis, baseball...hell, they could even put a light sensor & trigger on each GameWand and double it as a light gun. Imagine playing the next Punch Out! with a GameWand in each hand...you would *really* feel immersed in that kind of game as you would be holding and moving your fists as if you were really fighting and when you made an impact to your opponent it would rumble. The idea behind having gyro control and a new "controller" interface in the GameWand is to get non-gamers to start playing games which is what Nintendo has been talking about for a while now.
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