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Report: Disney seizing more control over Marvel Studios. Scrapping/re-writing script

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Avengers 2 Age of Disney.
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This .gif really shows you how badly RDJ's head was superimposed in that shot.
 

Blader

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Again - you can't just see the words "Latino Review" and pat yourself on the back like "Can't fool me, Latino Review!" because it doesn't work that way. They've missed a few times, but they've hit largely

El Mayimbe has posted a ton of blatantly false bullshit, and done so with a lot of "BIG MARVEL SCOOP" self-aggrandizement. He has been wrong than right lately and he's the most prolific of LR's contributors. You're splitting hairs that don't need to be here.
 
El Mayimbe has posted a ton of blatantly false bullshit, and done so with a lot of "BIG MARVEL SCOOP" self-aggrandizement. He has been wrong than right lately and he's the most prolific of LR's contributors. You're splitting hairs that don't need to be here.

Yep, the one on the Wright scoop has done anything for clicks and posts a lot of info from other sites.
 
Story is a joke really, disney must know Ant-Man is going to bomb either way... noidea how they can claim it impacts movies they know will sell
 
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Not to mention we had an article last year about how Disney execs are afraid of Isaac Perlmutter and let him do basically what he wants with Marvel Entertainment.

Disney has owned Marvel since the end of 2009. Even if there were some early plans for the phase 2 movies, all of them have run through whatever process Disney has for the entire production duration.

Perlmutter is a notorious control freak.

http://comicsbeat.com/marvel-layoffs-the-cheapskate-is-coming-from-inside-the-house-of-ideas/
 
Egos. When executives own something that becomes hugely successful -- regardless of their complete lack of involvement -- they feel entitled to do whatever the fuck they want with it.



lol, yeah, I'd never noticed that before.

Also, change for the sake of change. Always looking at ways a good thing can be made better through micro management, even if that thing then becomes potentially a lot worse.
 

Zombine

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We are going to reach Microsoft levels of hilarity in the future in regards to Marvel. For each success, there will be more and more Hollywood egos that want to have their fingerprint on a film until each movie is basically that soulless gif of Ariana Grande dancing.

Edit: Now I'm pretty content with X-men being out of their reach.
 
This .gif really shows you how badly RDJ's head was superimposed in that shot.

yeah it's always been bad, what'll be worse is in ten years when the cgi really shows it's age and it looks like a floating head on a crappy cgi body lol. should've done these scenes with a mix of stop motion and real armor to be future proof, would'v been more time consuming but worth it.
 

Caboose

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Crosspost from the other thread:

Faraci is a bit of a tampon, but he does often have a lot of insider info. I'm inclined to believe what he's saying (sensationalist title not withstanding) .
 
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pretty much. the rest is just "fan" posturing

Not when there are plenty of examples of execs fucking with things for the sake of their own egos just because they can. Feige being the one were the buck generally stopped and being someone who genuinely respects the material was a breath of fresh air that may be over soon.
 

Spinluck

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Then why even take the position of "audiences won't care"?

Because they won't? Lol. No where did I say they won't care about the quality of the film. The Avengers has already been topped quality wise by Cap 2 and X-Men: DOFP. Both will not gross as much.

What Whedon did best was probably balancing out the characters, and giving them their due. All while making the film very accessible for all ages. I'm sure he worked his ass off, but he wasn't the draw to the movie, and the writers didn't write anything special either.

If they announced tomorrow Avengers 2 would have new writers and director tomorrow, the only ones that would know are the people who are always checking in on this kind of news. People generally don't care, and will see the movies they want to see.
 

Gartooth

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God fucking dammit. Disney's purchase of Marvel always sat really poorly with me and if this is indeed their meddling then it is the worst possible outcome imaginable.

Edit: OK, actually that article from Faraci sounds like straight up doom mongering and "the sky is falling" garbage, which makes me question how much of it was factual. It is one thing to say that Disney is getting their shit thrown into the Marvel pie, but aside from Wright and Goddard being off of the projects he then goes on to assume that Whedon and Feige are both leaving Marvel as well with the whole "they had a good run" message.
 

jufonuk

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OK so GoTG is safe from any meddling right?

i mean by now it should all be ready to be shown at venues,
just got some idea in my head Disney will demand changes or pull it.
 
Aso Steven S. DeKnight taking over Daredevil so looks like Goddard left cause of S6 deal.

Since they are friends.

Expecting something akin to this to be announced on Wright's and El Maybe's LR scoop to be shown false.
 

Korosenai

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Im sad that this had to start with ant man. Like, im probably most hyped for that movie of all the phase 3 movies, and now its gonna be shit.

Thanks Disney.
 
I'm not saying there can't be any truth to this, but I find this to be just some terrible "Sky is falling" click bait all done in a holiday weekend when Marvel is harder to reach.

Also, Whedon giving up after Avengers 2? The article makes it sound confirmed. It wouldn't surprise me since he sounded kinda hesitant in signing on for Avengers 2 and after his tweet seems to be pretty grim. I really hope not, I'd live him finish out a trilogy with the old cast before moving on.
 
Seems more like the end of Ant Man.

The next Avengers, Captain America, Thor, etc. will all make ridiculous amounts of money. One failed IP is not going to change that.
 

Spaghetti

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knew it.

what could have been the most interesting comic book adaptation film is now dead in the gutter, because of disney execs who, not content with bombs like john carter and the lone ranger, think they know better than two tremendous talents with a strong vision for a film.
 
El Mayimbe has posted a ton of blatantly false bullshit, and done so with a lot of "BIG MARVEL SCOOP" self-aggrandizement. He has been wrong than right lately and he's the most prolific of LR's contributors. You're splitting hairs that don't need to be here.

He's missed on three major things, and at least one of those was probably IN DEVELOPMENT and then got yanked for something else.

But there's a lot more people writing for that site than Umberto, and even setting that aside, Umberto's track record still isn't that bad.

I'm not splitting hairs, I'm trying to realign the perspective here. And again - it's not like Devin just rang up Umberto like "hey, that thing you wrote was true, right?" If Devin is citing it, it's because he can verify it himself through his own sources, which he definitely has. And since Devin isn't really IN the scoop game, when he DOES drop one, it means there's something to it, usually.

People wiping their ass with the whole of Latino Review because they're annoyed with Umberto makes sense. I get that. I understand people doing the same with Badass & Devin. But that doesn't excuse the self-aggrandizement of people who race to an article citing either of them to sniff loudly and deeply like Tony Montana face down on a mountain of powdered indignance and disbelief, and it doesn't help further discussion.

Sometimes, when there's smoke, there's an ass recieving a mouthful of it. And sometimes there's fire. You have to look over your fence to see which it is. :)
 

Spinluck

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I'm not saying there can't be any truth to this, but I find this to be just some terrible "Sky is falling" click bait all done in a holiday weekend when Marvel is harder to reach.

Also, Whedon giving up after Avengers 2? The article makes it sound confirmed. It wouldn't surprise me since he sounded kinda hesitant in signing on for Avengers 2 and after his tweet seems to be pretty grim. I really hope not, I'd live him finish out a trilogy with the old cast before moving on.

He's trying to avoid that 3rd movie curse.
 

Cyan

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Depressing. Guess the brief era of relative kinda sorta freedom was a fluke.

Oh well. Here's to corporate meddling.
 
Aso Steven S. DeKnight taking over Daredevil so looks like Goddard left cause of S6 deal.

Since they are friends.

Expecting something akin to this to be announced on Wright's and El Maybe's LR scoop to be shown false.

Wasn't Andrew Stanton wanting to do an Ant Man movie too? Of course he is tied up with Finding Dory right now I think. And I doubt Disney would want him on another big budget live action film after John Carter.
 

Parallax

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Not when there are plenty of examples of execs fucking with things for the sake of their own egos just because they can. Feige being the one were the buck generally stopped and being someone who genuinely respects the material was a breath of fresh air that may be over soon.

except people are jumping off the deep end for results they know nothing about. speaking in absolutes is ridiculous and people need to calm down
 
This was always bound to happen. I been shitting on marvel since jump since it seemed like all their films were on some weird homogenized production line process. Though you did get the rare occasion where a good film (cap 2) or the film maker's uniqueness shone through (iron man 3)

Now this shit is getting worse and they're stifling it all. GOTG the last movie that won't be able to feel the after effects of this iron fist (uh...no pun intended)

But they're still gonna be huge at the box office so whatever...
 

kswiston

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If they announced tomorrow Avengers 2 would have new writers and director tomorrow, the only ones that would know are the people who are always checking in on this kind of news. People generally don't care, and will see the movies they want to see.

Yup, Twilight, The Hunger Games, and Harry Potter were all proof that audiences follow franchises over directors. Hell, none of the phase 2 movies have the same director as their phase 1 prequels.
 
He's missed on three major things, and at least one of those was probably IN DEVELOPMENT and then got yanked for something else.

But there's a lot more people writing for that site than Umberto, and even setting that aside, Umberto's track record still isn't that bad.

I'm not splitting hairs, I'm trying to realign the perspective here. And again - it's not like Devin just rang up Umberto like "hey, that thing you wrote was true, right?" If Devin is citing it, it's because he can verify it himself through his own sources, which he definitely has. And since Devin isn't really IN the scoop game, when he DOES drop one, it means there's something to it, usually.

People wiping their ass with the whole of Latino Review because they're annoyed with Umberto makes sense. I get that. I understand people doing the same with Badass & Devin. But that doesn't excuse the self-aggrandizement of people who race to an article citing either of them to sniff loudly and deeply like Tony Montana face down on a mountain of powdered indignance and disbelief, and it doesn't help further discussion.

Sometimes, when there's smoke, there's an ass recieving a mouthful of it. And sometimes there's fire. You have to look over your fence to see which it is. :)

But is his scoop on Wright which is why I don't believe it. If the one who spoiled the GoTG trailer sure.

That is the one with the good track record.

Also Stephen S. Deknight on DD. So the executive meddling looks less likely and Goddard staying as advisor.
 

Eusis

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Because they won't? Lol. No where did I say they won't care about the quality of the film. The Avengers has already been topped quality wise by Cap 2 and X-Men: DOFP. Both will not gross as much.

What Whedon did best was probably balancing out the characters, and giving them their due. All while making the film very accessible for all ages. I'm sure he worked his ass off, but he wasn't a draw to the movie, and the writers didn't write anything special either.

If they announced tomorrow Avengers 2 would have new writers and directors tomorrow, the only ones that would know are the people who are always checking in on this kind of news. People generally don't care, and will see the movies they want to see.
I think the problem there is that while the people generally won't care who does the film they WILL care if quality drops, and once that happens they aren't quite as eager to go. Maybe enough profit comes in to justify it anyway, but I looked at the X-men box offices and I noticed they peaked with the third movie and were all over the place afterwards, indicating people probably were disappointed with that film or just weren't convinced to come back afterwards. Maybe it still does well enough the higher ups don't care, but if you're less lucky or not smart about who you hand the reigns over to you'll just trash a franchise instead.

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Yup, Twilight, The Hunger Games, and Harry Potter were all proof that audiences follow franchises over directors. Hell, none of the phase 2 movies have the same director as their phase 1 prequels.
Dunno about Hunger Games but I recall opinion on the Harry Potter movies being more positive under a new director from some people at least, so it's not always inherently a bad thing. Hell, just look at Star Wars as the grand example of why a different director may be for the best.

Twilight meanwhile, well, with the kind of audience they got in I don't think a director change is particularly relevant to many of them.
 

Carcetti

Member
Sounds so stupid it could be true.

1. Make next wave of Marvel Movies as homogenized as possible
2. When their number starts to fall, make even more changes.
3. Blame Franchise Fatigue
4. ???
 
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