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Report: Disney seizing more control over Marvel Studios. Scrapping/re-writing script

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duckroll

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Latino Review, Film Crit Hulk, and Devin Faraci all saying there is truth that Feige is being strong armed by Disney executives higher up than him is extremely worrying. This is basically the doomsday scenario for Marvel Studios. :(
 
People can claim it is nonsense from Latino Review but when Faraci and Film Critic Hulk both back it up how are people still trying to deny this?

Faraci is a troll and FILM CRITIC HULK is a made-up internet persona. They have fairly obvious agendas to push in getting behind Latino Review's story.
 

mreddie

Member
Latino Review, Film Crit Hulk, and Devin Faraci all saying there is truth that Feige is being strong armed by Disney executives higher up than him is extremely worrying. This is basically the doomsday scenario for Marvel Studios. :(

Again, Phase 2 is going smoothly so why are they higher ups suddenly overruling the people who planned this from the start?
 

Gartooth

Member
I can believe the Latino Review story, but Devin Faraci's article is such hyperbolic bullshit that I can't believe that we are taking that story seriously. It is fear-mongering plain and simple.

Title: THE END OF MARVEL STUDIOS

"Show pic of dead Captain America"

Summary: Ant-Man's doomed, other movies doomed thanks to execs, Feige leaving, Whedon leaving, etc.

Sorry but it reads of shitty clickbait journalism meant to stir up paranoia with readers. Even IF there was a kernel of truth to the story, it was pretty much lost on me when the intention of the writer was clear.
 
Going to play devil's advocate -
The people at Disney aren't stupid, their main goal is to make as much money as possible, or else their job is on the line.
They are probably concerned about Guardians, and maybe they have some numbers that show that they have put too much money into Marvel, as surprising as it sounds.
 

duckroll

Member
Again, Phase 2 is going smoothly so why are they higher ups suddenly overruling the people who planned this from the start?

I think the trouble with people trying to look to pure logic to try and wave away the suggestion that things are starting sour behind the scenes is that we know for a fact that in big businesses, such things happen all the time. It's not unheard of, it's not even unusual. It's something I think everyone really hopes wouldn't happen especially when it looks like the status quo is successful, but that doesn't mean people will leave it alone. That's probably the saddest part.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
He's an anon insider in hollywood. Edgar Wright wrote the forward for his book so I assume they are at least acquaintances
Yeah, I guess that probably puts weight on this rumour now. Disappointing.

I can believe the Latino Review story, but Devin Faraci's article is such hyperbolic bullshit that I can't believe that we are taking that story seriously. It is fear-mongering plain and simple.

Title: THE END OF MARVEL STUDIOS

"Show pic of dead Captain America"

Summary: Ant-Man's doomed, other movies doomed thanks to execs, Feige leaving, Whedon leaving, etc.

Sorry but it reads of shitty clickbait journalism meant to stir up paranoia with readers. Even IF there was a kernel of truth to the story, it was pretty much lost on me when the intention of the writer was clear.
Yep.
 

duckroll

Member
Yeah I agree that Devin's article itself is obviously sensationalized. The tone is very obviously hyperbolic (at least for the current situation). But taken together, this and the Latino Review report paint an unpleasant light on what is going on behind the scenes. We definitely shouldn't ignore that.
 

ReiGun

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People can claim it is nonsense from Latino Review but when Faraci and Film Critic Hulk both back it up how are people still trying to deny this?

Yeah I don't know why people are trying to discount all of them. LR, Faraci, and FCH have all been incredibly supportive of Marvel Studios thus far. Hardly the types to want to tear the company down for no reason.

Faraci did himself no favors with the sensationalist headline (I rolled my eyes at the dead Cap pic), but it's known that he has reliable sources. Besides, if nothing else, his beef seems to be with the higher ups at Disney than Marvel Studios.

Pixar was running smoothly too.
Wonder how long before we get Marvel's "Cars 2." :p
 
I can believe the Latino Review story, but Devin Faraci's article is such hyperbolic bullshit that I can't believe that we are taking that story seriously. It is fear-mongering plain and simple.

Title: THE END OF MARVEL STUDIOS

"Show pic of dead Captain America"

Summary: Ant-Man's doomed, other movies doomed thanks to execs, Feige leaving, Whedon leaving, etc.

Sorry but it reads of shitty clickbait journalism meant to stir up paranoia with readers. Even IF there was a kernel of truth to the story, it was pretty much lost on me when the intention of the writer was clear.

That's because Fatraci is a marvel stan and likes to doom and gloom and be an "insider". He's always been this way, even on CHUD.
 

anaron

Member
I'm so bummed about this. I was expecting this sort of inevitable unravelling eventually but was hoping it would occur after phase 3.
 
Who ... ever said this? Seriously?

I remember article saying marvel making movies with their b list hero with ironman, and with thor, I've read plenty of people who think this isn't going to translate well to movie. I even remember the reaction here in neogaf when the first on set photo of thor leak showing the costume, many people think it look stupid, cheap, bad cosplay, etc etc.
 
Going to play devil's advocate -
The people at Disney aren't stupid, their main goal is to make as much money as possible, or else their job is on the line.
I don't recall people fired for this thing:
John_carter_poster.jpg

And no, Rich Ross quited, Guess he'd be fired anyway.
 

anaron

Member
Captain America and Thor while not nearly as famous or well known prior to the MCU, are very recognizable, front and center characters in the Marvel universe be it starring in their own long running titles or as Avengers. They're essential and almost always regularly involved.

Ant Man has never been at their level.
 

Dai101

Banned
Going to play devil's advocate -
The people at Disney aren't stupid, their main goal is to make as much money as possible, or else their job is on the line.
They are probably concerned about Guardians, and maybe they have some numbers that show that they have put too much money into Marvel, as surprising as it sounds.

Let's not forget that this movie (ant-man) has been in development or whatever for EIGTH FUCKING YEARS and is already late for full production.... at some point the higher ups had to step in for much faith and freedom Feige has on running Marvel Studios. I don't really think it's going to be all downhill from now on, even less on how successful they have been so far. I' so faucking sure this is nothing but the sky is falling bullshit and we are arguing for nothing.
 

Replicant

Member
And what's the point of making Ant-Man without Edgar Wright anyway?

Who wrote this? What a drama queen. The film is cast. Just shoot it already and let us see the final product before whinging about it.
 
I can believe the Latino Review story, but Devin Faraci's article is such hyperbolic bullshit that I can't believe that we are taking that story seriously. It is fear-mongering plain and simple.

Title: THE END OF MARVEL STUDIOS

"Show pic of dead Captain America"

Summary: Ant-Man's doomed, other movies doomed thanks to execs, Feige leaving, Whedon leaving, etc.

Sorry but it reads of shitty clickbait journalism meant to stir up paranoia with readers. Even IF there was a kernel of truth to the story, it was pretty much lost on me when the intention of the writer was clear.

No! You are crazy. There are no agenda's! Nolan is God, Singer is Ummmmm Noah, that can't be right! Curly?
 
Yeah I don't know why people are trying to discount all of them. LR, Faraci, and FCH have all been incredibly supportive of Marvel Studios thus far. Hardly the types to want to tear the company down for no reason.

Faraci did himself no favors with the sensationalist headline (I rolled my eyes at the dead Cap pic), but it's known that he has reliable sources. Besides, if nothing else, his beef seems to be with the higher ups at Disney than Marvel Studios.


Wonder how long before we get Marvel's "Cars 2." :p

Sooooo Beef then ?
 

Gartooth

Member
Yeah I agree that Devin's article itself is obviously sensationalized. The tone is very obviously hyperbolic (at least for the current situation). But taken together, this and the Latino Review report paint an unpleasant light on what is going on behind the scenes. We definitely shouldn't ignore that.

I definitely agree. For the moment though, we have no idea if what happened with Ant-Man is truly a sign of things to come for all of Marvel's projects. People flipped out over the Daredevil news only for it to not turn out nearly as bad as previously thought due to a good showrunner being put in place. (and Goddard staying on good terms as a consultant)
 

SargerusBR

I love Pokken!
Who wrote this? What a drama queen. The film is cast. Just shoot it already and let us see the final product before whinging about it.

The last time a director was kicked out and another was brought to replace him in a comic book movie in production we got this turd:
X-Men_The_Last_Stand.jpg
 
The last time a director was kicked out and another was brought to replace him in a comic book movie in production we got this turd:
X-Men: The Last Stand.jpg

Marvel Studios has its own Last Stand in Thor: The Dark World. First Patty Jenkins was kicked off the project in pre-production then Alan Taylor was kicked out of the editing bay in post-production.

thor.jpg
 
No, Devin is an asshole. He never spreads shit without a source. He has too much of an ego for that.

Devin's cited source is Latino Review's scoop. Everything related to Wright being fired comes from that story. Nowhere does he state he has confirmed the story with a secondary source. The only new material Devin brings up is his knowledge of a Ms. Marvel script, and his belief that they have Ms. Marvel cast. Everything else is hyperbole and concern-trolling designed to create a splashy click-bait article.
 

duckroll

Member
Yes it is, but there's no reason to believe it was going to be any good from the delays.

It wasn't really being delayed. I think you have the wrong understanding of the events. What happened is Wright had an idea for an Ant-man movie, but it was never really officially greenlighted or anything. He was in talks with Marvel, and Feige liked his idea. They informally talked about it while Wright developed drafts while he was working on his other films. When Wright wanted to do World's End first, Marvel was cool with it too, because they were in no rush to make an Ant-man movie for the sake of making an Ant-man movie. There have been no signs that once it was greenlighted and announced that there are any delays or pre-production problems.
 
There's beef. But who doesn't have beef with the Mouse?

Mickey got so many enemies in these streets. Lonely at the top, mang.

Yeah I remember when I was 18 and they sent me that rejection letter saying my artwork wasn't what they were looking for.

I was all like Fuck Fantasia.
 
Sure, they may have scared off Edgar Wright, and Joss Whedon might be his buddy and will leave after Age of Ultron, but there are a lot of directors on various Marvel movies.

If Disney were dicks, they wouldn't have bought Marvel wanting to screw it over. As far as I'm concerned, Guardians of the Galaxy wouldn't have conceived as a movie going to happen.
 

ReiGun

Member
Yeah I remember when I was 18 and they sent me that rejection letter saying my artwork wasn't what they were looking for.

I was all like Fuck Fantasia.

They still won't return my calls after I mailed in my screenplay for a gritty reboot of Dumbo.

The pricks.
 

mreddie

Member
I think the trouble with people trying to look to pure logic to try and wave away the suggestion that things are starting sour behind the scenes is that we know for a fact that in big businesses, such things happen all the time. It's not unheard of, it's not even unusual. It's something I think everyone really hopes wouldn't happen especially when it looks like the status quo is successful, but that doesn't mean people will leave it alone. That's probably the saddest part.

No company is perfect I know that and I know it was supposed to happen sooner or later but of all the films, Ant Man? I'm gonna wait and see between now and Comic Con to see if MARVEL IS DOOOMMMEEDDDD stuff is worth while.

I just hope AntMan and Wasp aren't the big causalities.
 

markatisu

Member
Pixar was running smoothly too.

Yeah Pixar has been so horrible since Disney bought them (eye rolling)

Ratatouille June 29, 2007 --> Academy Award
WALL-E June 27, 2008 --> Academy Award
Up May 29, 2009 --> Academy Award
Toy Story 3 June 18, 2010 --> Highest grossing Pixar movie of all time / Academy Award
Brave June 22, 2012 --> Academy Award

We are all doomed as Marvel slides into the shitter /sarcasm
 
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