ROG Xbox Ally and ROG Xbox Ally X launch October 16

It is a Windows PC device created by a partnership between ASUS and Xbox. It plays the exact same games as any of the non-Xbox branded Windows handheld devices do. The only difference is this one launches into big picture mode which comes to all of the others next year. Nobody says they can't use Xbox branding, that is what partnerships are for. However, it does not make it any less confusing to a lot of people that do not follow this stuff.
Well, when trying to create a paradigm shift, there's bound to be confusion. Xbox branding sure beats the "ROG Ally Gamepass device"

MS just wanted something they could use in marketing promos when advertising Gamepass and Xbox ecosystem. Asus loves the free marketing they get, it's a win win.

This is purely a device meant for Gamepass users first and foremost, rest are secondary to that.
 
The DF guys make it sound pretty meh. Doom running in the 50s. Expedition 33 running in the high 20s.

Maybe after couple years of OS improvements and better hardware these things will be more appealing.
This whole thing feels a bit like a rushed prototype, with good ideas & intentions, that they've fast tracked to market to try and combat the general mindshare SteamOS is getting in the efficient gaming OS space.

But to pull this off they need to go balls deep and commit to make it a great experience for gamers. MS has the deepest of pockets and can pull it off, but they're also a slow moving mega-corporation. So yeah, a couple of years down the road I think we might see the intended experience.
 
MS has the deepest of pockets and can pull it off, but they're also a slow moving mega-corporation. So yeah, a couple of years down the road I think we might see the intended experience.
In principle I agree, although execution isn't guaranteed. But companies don't get to release products attached to a brand without those products partially defining the brand. This is definitely a beta product, literally designed as a test bed but with full RRP.

Personally I think they would be better waiting and releasing the next generation without a confusing bridge product, when they can release something fully formed for the future vision.
 
The DF guys make it sound pretty meh. Doom running in the 50s. Expedition 33 running in the high 20s.

Maybe after couple years of OS improvements and better hardware these things will be more appealing.

This needs to be tighten up by 2026 to be honest. MS isn't going to get too many shots at this.
 
It shouldn't be the media's job to explain what the hardware does. The Xbox marketing is suppose to do that.
Since when? It's always been the Media's job to explain hardware, that's why they exist. The media isn't there to cheerlead one side or the other. Their job has always been to inform the consumer about products of any kind. This hasn't changed since magazine print, E3 days and now internet! Marketing should always try to explain hardware. However, Media gets early reviews of the hardware/software etc. so, they can talk about what they've learned! It's very much the Media's job to cover products otherwise why are they needed?
 
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Since when? It's always been the Media's job to explain hardware, that's why they exist.
I think you'll find the marketing department has primacy on explaining hardware..... that literally is their job. Media's role should be to test Marketings claims. Although thats a little out of vogue these days, their role is mainly to get clicks.
 
This needs to be tighten up by 2026 to be honest. MS isn't going to get too many shots at this.
Its already pretty good, no?

Next gen will get more powerful, but games will also move on that much further.

Pointless to play latest UE5 titles on handheld, if you have any other way to do it.
 
In home streaming or geforce now.
I think there will always be a delta in how handhelds perform, WRT home systems and laptops.

All new games work well on systems that consume about 100 watts, (5060 laptop for example).

Playing it on 15-20 watts will always be a compromised experience comparatively.
 
I think there will always be a delta in how handhelds perform, WRT home systems and laptops.

All new games work well on systems that consume about 100 watts, (5060 laptop for example).

Playing it on 15-20 watts will always be a compromised experience comparatively.
100% but extremely cool to play your games anywhere at full fidelity streaming has come a long long way
 
The DF guys make it sound pretty meh. Doom running in the 50s. Expedition 33 running in the high 20s.

Maybe after couple years of OS improvements and better hardware these things will be more appealing.
The base model or the X ?
 
The DF guys make it sound pretty meh. Doom running in the 50s. Expedition 33 running in the high 20s.

Maybe after couple years of OS improvements and better hardware these things will be more appealing.
Yeah, I was "watching" the video in the background while I played some Halo MP and it took me a moment to realize they were talking about the X and not the base model. None of them sounded excited at all about them and the performance sounded terrible for what is no doubt going to be a $900 device in 2025.
 
Oh snap! I thought what Wario posted WAS the official price. Wow! What's the hold up?
Article:
Xbox exec Jason Ronald explained that it's difficult to "find the right balance between affordability and price point" in a "challenging" macro-economic climate, and therefore the team needs more time.

"This is always a challenge... and you always try to find the right balance between affordability and price point, and I think especially in a mobile form factor that also adds in dimensions such as battery life in as well. And then, as you said, the macro-economic climate is challenging."
"I think we will have to... we need more time to figure the macro-economic impact to pricing, and that's why we'll be sharing more later, in September and October."


Guess they want to price it as low as possible for the US market, while still staying in the green, but that they're nervous about tariff changes. They would ideally want the reveal price to stick for at least a couple of months.
 
Article:
Xbox exec Jason Ronald explained that it's difficult to "find the right balance between affordability and price point" in a "challenging" macro-economic climate, and therefore the team needs more time.

"This is always a challenge... and you always try to find the right balance between affordability and price point, and I think especially in a mobile form factor that also adds in dimensions such as battery life in as well. And then, as you said, the macro-economic climate is challenging."

"I think we will have to... we need more time to figure the macro-economic impact to pricing, and that's why we'll be sharing more later, in September and October."


Guess they want to price it as low as possible for the US market, while still staying in the green, but that they're nervous about tariff changes. They would ideally want the reveal price to stick for at least a couple of months.

It's 1,000% insane to me that they even mention that they'll share the pricing "maybe" in October. Like bro!.........how well thought out is any of this? It feels more like they want to hide the sticker shock in their biggest and best market to me. There's no way Microsoft of all companies are nervous and shaking over if they should add an additional $50 or not to this device.

The tariff situation is what it is. Even as 2 Federal courts state that the America President broke the law implementing tariffs globally in the first place. If the Supreme Court agrees with the 2 lower federal courts, then Microsoft will reap the benefits. But that shouldn't change what they price it in 4 weeks.
 
I went into an ASUS shop, it hasn't been release yet and I asked about the price when it launch and, Wow, it really is expensive. With that being expensive, it will really be hard to beat switch 2 or even PSPnext which is rumored to be cheap.
 
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I went into a ASUS shop, it hasn't been release yet and I asked about the price when it launch and, Wow, it really is expensive. With that being expensive, it will really be hard to beat switch 2 or even PSPnext which is rumored to be cheap.
They have a ROG Ally that will be cheaper.

That would be more comparable to Switch 2.
 
It feels more like they want to hide the sticker shock in their biggest and best market to me.
This is exactly that. They probably already decided they will not subsidise it (they would be just making it easier to spend money on Steam lol) and probably arrived at something close to $999 / 999€, not they are waiting for the right moment to drop the news and hoping it gets buried with something, I would expect TGS.
 
Final prices seemingly confirmed(?)



$900 For the Ally X?
Thinking Think GIF
 
I went into an ASUS shop, it hasn't been release yet and I asked about the price when it launch and, Wow, it really is expensive. With that being expensive, it will really be hard to beat switch 2 or even PSPnext which is rumored to be cheap.
So it's actually reasonably priced for the specs, and your comparing it with the PSPNext which doesn't exist?

The Xbox Ally is fairly priced against Switch 2 for the tech you get too.

What a strange post.
 


Auto SR is good in its current form. Will only get better. Definitely gives the Microsift Ally an edge over the Lenovo. Their Xbox PC hybrid console better utilize it.
 
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In the video he says he called Best Buy and confirmed it with them as well.


Also he clarified the pictures:

Context: I got a tip from someone who felt like they were updating the display. I called Best Buy to ask if they were doing so and they unprompted mentioned the release date of the Xbox Ally X, and told me the price. They also told me the ROG Xbox Ally price. But the original images sent in were incorrect. I think a Best Buy rep slipped up and gave me the prices. If it's discovered that I made a mistake I will issue a retraction, but my source is literally Best Buy (who I called)

 
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7" is way too small. After the 8.8" Legion it was hard to go back to the deck.

Personally the best handheld would prioritize screen quality, size and resolution and focus heavily on indie and low requirement AA games. Playing AAA on a handheld is sillyness given you're much better off putting that money towards a good PC, for how expensive performant handhelds are.

I would say deck OLED and legion Go (original if you can find it for like $500) are pretty solid picks. They are however very chunky, which I dislike. The Switch 2 has very nice and slim aesthetics, but I hear there are lots of performance issues and it's not amazing in handheld (also not great LCD?).
 
7" is way too small. After the 8.8" Legion it was hard to go back to the deck.

Personally the best handheld would prioritize screen quality, size and resolution and focus heavily on indie and low requirement AA games. Playing AAA on a handheld is sillyness given you're much better off putting that money towards a good PC, for how expensive performant handhelds are.

I would say deck OLED and legion Go (original if you can find it for like $500) are pretty solid picks. They are however very chunky, which I dislike. The Switch 2 has very nice and slim aesthetics, but I hear there are lots of performance issues and it's not amazing in handheld (also not great LCD?).
I think Topher Topher got Go S for the above purpose and liked it. Still has 8" OLED but the controls are integrated. Performance wise it's between Steam Deck and Z1E handhelds.
 
I think Topher Topher got Go S for the above purpose and liked it. Still has 8" OLED but the controls are integrated. Performance wise it's between Steam Deck and Z1E handhelds.

Yep. I only play AA and under and emulation. Perfect for that. Love the 8" but it isn't OLED. Probably Steam Deck is the best value for OLED.
 
I still fail to see the market here.

Anyone interested in handheld already own either a Steam Deck or Legion or Ally.
These machines are great for old 7/8+ year games, emulators & pretty much all 2D games.

This new iteration mainly packs a +20/30% improvement, which is still not enough to run any (fairly) recent AA/AAA 3D game with decent framerate/graphics.
This new iteration also lacks any new feature like FSR4 that would make the point above possible.

So ppl are basically paying a 800/1200 € "upgrade" for no new possibilities.
I don't get it.
 
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I still fail to see the market here.

Anyone interested in handheld already own either a Steam Deck or Legion or Ally.
These machines are great for old 7/8+ year games, emulators & pretty much all 2D games.

This new iteration mainly packs a +20/30% improvement, which is still not enough to run any (fairly) recent AA/AAA 3D game with decent framerate/graphics.
This new iteration also lacks any new feature like FSR4 that would make the point above possible.

So ppl are basically paying a 800/1200 € "upgrade" for no new possibilities.
I don't get it.
I have a Steam Deck but am very interested in the X version. FH6 will be a game I'll play on the go as well as CoD zombies. Maybe GTA 6 too. It has VRR which should help a bit as well as Auto SR when that comes out early next year.

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I still fail to see the market here.
I'm interested to see what people say about performance once it's in the real world and people can give anecdotal experience.

Quite unlikely I'd consider buying one, but Gamepass and an Xbox console at home + cloud saves plus being able to continue playing on the move doesn't automatically seem the worst situation.
 
So ppl are basically paying a 800/1200 € "upgrade" for no new possibilities.
I don't get it.
At the price of the higher end Legion Go 2($1479) you may as well grab a laptop. Yes, they're different form factors but I just find what Lenovo is asking for the next round of their handheld completely impractica, and I was looking forward yo upgrading my GO 1. You can get an OLED Legion 5 15" laptop for less with way more under the hood.
 
I still fail to see the market here.

Anyone interested in handheld already own either a Steam Deck or Legion or Ally.
These machines are great for old 7/8+ year games, emulators & pretty much all 2D games.

This new iteration mainly packs a +20/30% improvement, which is still not enough to run any (fairly) recent AA/AAA 3D game with decent framerate/graphics.
This new iteration also lacks any new feature like FSR4 that would make the point above possible.

So ppl are basically paying a 800/1200 € "upgrade" for no new possibilities.
I don't get it.
The Ryzen AI Z2 Extreme in the ROG Xbox Ally X should be massively more powerful than the Steam Deck, no? I don't see where you get the 20/30% from. I'd say the GPU is at least 3x.
No clue about the CPU but it seems to be some kind of weird performance/efficiency-core hybrid.
 
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