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Die Namek Ability
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The point is your current GPU would still have value so you can sell it to subsidies the cost of a new GPU. Waiting two gens this strategy is much less beneficial. Even if waiting a gen yielded a similar cost analysis your still in a net negative situation because you are doing so at the cost of not having the newest GPU at each release as opposed to the other strategy. My .02
Moses85
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asdasdasdbb
Member
5080 is expected to be 400-420 W TDP, so no.
Hohenheim
Member
5070TI will definitly have 16gb, at least according to most leaks. Seems to be very similar to 5080.
asdasdasdbb
Member
Probably like 15% slower. The price wlil be though... uh.. interesting...
SolidQ
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asdasdasdbb
Member
If Raichu means the 5070 and Ti as the mid level products... that's realistic but probally at the lower end. And figure the MSRP is going to be decently higher.
Bojji
Member
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Gets 16 GB GDDR7 Memory, GB203-300 GPU, 350W TBP
5090 - 33% more cores, 33% more power yet it will be 60-70% more performant?
He is smoking crack unless we have the biggest IPC increase in decades. Same is true about 5080 being faster than 4090, it doesn't make any sense.
There was rumor about 5070 being more or less on par with 4070ti, it has less cores (than 4070ti) but probably higher clock so it's logical.
asdasdasdbb
Member
The 4090 is extremely bandwidth starved. Like seriously. You could get 30% faster without changing anything else if it had GDDR7.
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SolidQ
Member
it's likely 4080 vs 5080 and comparision like NV does per tier 4060 vs 5060, 4070 vs 5070 etc
Yeah 1tb vs 1.8 + clocks from GPU and Memory
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Bojji
Member
Depends on the game? In some games you will need more compute than memory bandwidth. Look at 4070 vs. 3080 - about the same compute power (4070 has less cores but far higher clock) but 3080 has ~50% memory BW. Results? In 1080 and 1440p both cards are ~ the same, 3080 starts to win at 4k but it's far from 50% difference.
This memory BW difference will make the most difference for people aiming to play at 8k.
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asdasdasdbb
Member
I am only talking about the 4090 specifically. It is more complicated at the lower tier models.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
60-70% more performant is bollocks. It's going to be more like 30%.NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Gets 16 GB GDDR7 Memory, GB203-300 GPU, 350W TBP
LavitzSlambert
Member
Wait until we see nearly all the performance gains being attributed to the higher power budget. I remember when new generations of hardware were magnitudes more powerful and more efficient too.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Excited to see these cards.
But def skipping the generation.
RTX60s should bring real advancement for xx70 class cards.
Im too poor to afford an xx90.
Magnitudes?
When was that?
Also consider 3090 vs 4090 is one of the biggest upgrades weve seen in like what 20 years?
But def skipping the generation.
RTX60s should bring real advancement for xx70 class cards.
Im too poor to afford an xx90.
Magnitudes?
When was that?
Also consider 3090 vs 4090 is one of the biggest upgrades weve seen in like what 20 years?
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Right now I'm aiming for a RTX 4060 TI 16GB VRAM version but waiting to see how much better the RTX 5060 Ti 12GB or 16 GB versions are if they do have one. If it's around 20% better for the same price point than definitely getting the 5060 TI. But if it's going to be 20% by being 20% more expensive than no cigar. The RTX 4060 TI 16gb vram would be more than enough for my 1080P self especially since my current card is a GTX 1070. GTA VI, FFVII Remake Part 3, Stellar Blade 2, the next few Resident Evil, Space Marine 3 etc should all get handled well by the 4060 TI 16gb at 1080p. But I'm truly aiming for a decently modded Elder Scrolls VI which might require a tiny bit more than a 4060TI so a 5060 TI would make me feel safer.
Rickyiez
Member
3080 was magnitudes faster than 2080 (40% at 4k)
1080 Ti was magnitudes faster than 980 Ti (46% at 4k)
4090 is 40% faster than 3090 in 4k
Its always that case except 2080 Ti
FalconPunch
Gold Member
600 Watts is truly crazy. I cannot imagine how anyone can justify 600 watts for the GPU just to play games. If you have a 14900k plus Oled monitor, you could be at almost 1kw to play games. That’s just wild man.
Man you are hugely downplaying the performance differences here
3080 was magnitudes faster than 2080 (40% at 4k) -- %70 over 2080 source HUB
1080 Ti was magnitudes faster than 980 Ti (46% at 4k) -- 85% over 980 TI source TPU
4090 is 40% faster than 3090 in 4k - 75% over 3090 source HUB
all AVG raster performance at 4k
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Hohenheim
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti Leak Tips More VRAM, Cores, and Power Draw
It's an open secret by now that NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5000 series GPUs are on the way, with an early 2025 launch on the cards. Now, preliminary details about the RTX 5070 Ti have leaked, revealing an increase in both VRAM and TDP and suggesting that the new upper mid-range GPU will finally...
BlownUpRich
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Off-topic, but them Morgott lines hit strong lol.
BlownUpRich
Member
I'm really curious about what DLSS 4 will bring, I'm hoping it's more than "Ray Reconstruction 2.0 so now you have more accurate rays", I mean I'd be content with that & it's always welcome, I just want a new shiny feature like how DLSS3 brought Frame Generation. Bring it on Jensen! 
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asdasdasdbb
Member
The higher clocks don't come for free. And it's basically on a refresh of the same node, not a new one.
Celcius
°Temp. member
I’m so curious if I’ll be able to get an RTX 5090 at launch. I assume they’ll launch late January right around the time ff7 rebirth launches. I’m also curious if they’re reaaaaaally going to be 600w and if so, would my 1000w psu be enough. I would think I’d be fine but it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Not real time. Already confirmed by cdpr. They used ue5 as a render engine and let the frames take as long as they needed. A 4090 would have produced identical image quality, just taken longer.
It was still made on the 5 series.
It was a dumb thing to put on the trailer.
daninthemix
Member
I can't remember if the 3000 series had any features? 2000 introduced DLSS and RT. 4000 brought framegen. 3000...nothing? So it's not guaranteed we'll get a new feature.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
lol copeWe got the reveal last night though.
BlownUpRich
Member
Not to be dramatic or confrontational, but why won’t you buy Nvidia cards if that’s the case? You’re not going to see these newer next-gen features in any other cards unless if you’re fine with waiting 3-4 years for AMD & Intel to catch up which by then, Nvidia would’ve already done more DLSS stuff.
Hohenheim
Member
Then you're probably never buying Nvidia again is my guess.
Dr.D00p
Member
Lol.
Jensen knows the almighty, all consuming power of FOMO amongst PC Gamers is enough to overcome such moral indignation.
DirtyBast8rd
Member
Don't cheap out on motherboard. Get one with good vrm's and read about people having stability issues while you think, huh?, runs fine in my setup.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
It's not FOMO it's real. Neither AMD or Intel is going to come up with technology that rivals DLSS.
On that note I cringe whenever someone says Nvidia is a "scam"- look up the definition in a dictionary.
winjer
Gold Member
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti to feature 16GB VRAM, RTX 5060 reportedly sticks to 8GB - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA RTX 5060 series rumors Finally, something about next-gen in the budget area. Wccftech claims to have obtained new information on the GeForce RTX 5060 series. NVIDIA is now said to be working on not one but two models in the series, which would follow the path of the current-generation...
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Ellery
Member
Looking at all the specs it seems like it is same again as it was with the 40 series.
The 4090 was imho the only real juicy card and when you look at the RTX 5090 it is seemingly the same story again.
Sure it is going to be the most expensive one, but looking at price/perf or fps per Dollar it might closely slot next to the other cards. And since it has more VRAM and people wanting to go 4K (or even higher with multi monitor setups) and juice up the RTX it is quite likely that even at $2000 it will look like the best buy. Unless the 5080 and 5070 Ti are much cheaper than I think, but probably not.
Still not sure whether I am going to join in on this generation or wait. My 3080 is still fine. So it depends on the benchmarks and price, but in terms of PC games the upgrade is not that important. Not that much on the horizon that requires it. By the time Witcher 4 etc. come out there will be new hardware.
The 4090 was imho the only real juicy card and when you look at the RTX 5090 it is seemingly the same story again.
Sure it is going to be the most expensive one, but looking at price/perf or fps per Dollar it might closely slot next to the other cards. And since it has more VRAM and people wanting to go 4K (or even higher with multi monitor setups) and juice up the RTX it is quite likely that even at $2000 it will look like the best buy. Unless the 5080 and 5070 Ti are much cheaper than I think, but probably not.
Still not sure whether I am going to join in on this generation or wait. My 3080 is still fine. So it depends on the benchmarks and price, but in terms of PC games the upgrade is not that important. Not that much on the horizon that requires it. By the time Witcher 4 etc. come out there will be new hardware.
